if you are going to borrow money to add to the size of your kitch in, to add plant and employees will you not do it if it costs a quarter of a per cent more. well, a quarter percent increase will translate into consumer behaviour. many interest rates from equity loans, outo loans, credit guards are tied to the prime rate and it moves with the fed fund. >> will it mean a larger increase. a quarter of a percent. half a per cent or full point. >> the best guess is lockistically. this debate is more than 257 basis points. if that's all that happens if it was left there for a long time. not much difference will happen. a rate increase sooner rather than later signals that the fed is not willing to test the bounds of unemployment. to me that is what it's about. will they let the economy generate low unemployment. the only rational to pull back and not test low rates, we shi test that. >> we'll take a break and pick it up in a moment. why the attention on a rate increase that will lead interest rates at lows. is it the idea that a slow rise will mean the end of an historic region of money. s

christie kitchings is editor of the cleveland current. she also happens to be the mom of a student on campus. christie, first explain when you got the news. it's roughly going on noon your time there, correct? are you there? can you hear me? all right. we will work on getting christie on the line. let me just tell you what she was able to speak to andrea mitchell about just a short time ago. she again, being the editor of the local newspaper there, as a reporter, got to campus but she is also the mom of a current enrolled student at delta state university. now, she said that her son was in class in job hall. job hall is one of the main classrooms on the campus, and christie is on the line with us now. we are looking at instagram video from i think inside the hall. can you hear me now? >> reporter: i can hear you. can you hear me? >> i can. thank you so much for joining us. i know this is -- >> reporter: we are being evacuated off campus right now by the different types of law enforcement. we are being evacuated into the ewing hall buildin