an early member of the kkk who later changed. how will we think of him? >> he changed. great. wonderful. he knew more about the senate. he loved that place. knew every rule. one thing about it, you never saw him at a cocktail party or dinner party. he was never much enamored with the social side of washington. he was the longest serving senator in history. quite a remarkable achievement. i'll never forget the image of him at senator kennedy -- he was on the hill when senator kennedy died. i never seen a man so devastated by the death of another person in my life. it was remarkable. >> larry: dana, what did you think of the senator? >> well, my first thought is to sort of linger on the fact that he was involved with the kkk but if he repented then graces for all. that's fantastic. i hope before his death he was able to reconcile some of the positions he had prior to that i hope he was able to reconcile that before he passed away. i wasn't enamored with his voting record. i feel bad for his family. other than that, that's pretty much my reaction. >> larry: he opposed going to ir

. -- the kkk. he was the united states senator. he helped put together brown vs. board of education. john paul stevens today is not what i thought he might be as a justice when i voted for him 35 years ago. i am pleased with the way he has turned out. he has a certain amount of saying that gerald ford was president and should be able to say who he nominates, and i thought john paul stevens was more conservative than someone i would have recommended for a democratic president. i think he has been a good justice. at the same time, you have a mother who i think was a superb justice. -- another who i think was a super of justice. -- superb justice. there was one picketing outside my office saying if i voted for him i would not get reelected. he served very well. people make up their mind on many things. you can probably get as good a view of them as you can, but ultimately, they are going to make up their minds. >> you can read too much into your papers when she was a clerk to justice marshall are served in the clinton administration. on what basis do you find out if

what he belonged to the kkk. i do not think he is as great a man as people say he is. host: born november 20, 1917 in north carolina. his mother died in the flu pandemic, so he was moved to his pandemic, so he was moved to his aunt's house in west virginia, a year old. he was renamed robert byrd that point. he graduated american university he graduated american university in 1963, got his law degree from american university. president kennedy gave him his diploma that year. served in the u.s. house -- served in the state legislature in west virginia from 1946 to 1953, elected to the u.s. senate in 1954. majority leader twice, minority leader once, majority whip for several years as well. serve as president pro tem. on november 18, 2009, he surpassed carl hayden to become the longest serving member in history of progress. wisconsin, linda on the republican -- lyndon on the republican line. caller: i would like to give my condolences to the family. i agree with a number of other colors that there should be term lim