here we see how klaas reacted.tch. >> burn in hell, davis. >> well, why do monsters and davis and ariel castro get to taunt their victims. why do lawyers not object to his self-important screed? marc klaas is the founder of the klaas kids foundation along with former prosecutor and defense attorney seema iyer. thank you both. what did you think watching, i guess you watched on television yesterday, as castro the kidnapper, rapist, whatever, killer, murderer, he is all of them, walked in there and spoke like he was jeremiah? he had some big message for everybody? >> it was absolutely and completely offensive. i really, chris, physically started shaking because it took me right back to that time 17 years ago when i sat in a courtroom and had to listen to another extreme pervert excuse and justify his vile crimes. it was an affront to humanity, i thought. >> let me bring in seema iyer, an attorney. i noticed that the victim was very careful, she addressed the court, spoke to the judge in reading that statement but did

klaas. and mr. klaas, because of his own tragedy, he understands that this person -- chris, you're trying to talk about him like you can connect with him. you cannot connect with him. he is a sociopath. that is not my opinion. that is a clinical fact from almost 20 years of dealing with people like mr. castro. so you cannot try to explain why he did what he did. in his mind, that was harmonious. in his mind, that was a home. for us, it is evil. we had the opportunity and the unfortunate predicament to look at evil in the eye. and hopefully, we will never see this man again. >> tell me about court procedure. maybe marc knows this too. you first, seema. is it within the bounds of an attorney for the victims there to call to order that moment and say you cannot talk about -- >> no. >> you can't shut the guy up? no, you can't shut the guy up. and okay, so just to be clear, the attorneys for the victims, they are civil attorneys that were doing just kind of damage control, okay? but the prosecution repre

here we see how klaas reacted.'s watch. >> burn in hell, davis. >> well, why do monsters and davis cas and ariel castro get to taunt victims and family ofs? why do lawyers not object to his self-important screed? marc klaas is the founder of the klaas kids foundation along with former prosecutor and defense attorney see ma ire. thank you both. what did you think watching, i guess you watched on television yesterday, as castro the kidnapper, rapist, whatever, killer, murderer, he is all of them, walked in there and spoke like he was jeremiah? he had some big message for everybody? >> it was absolutely and completely offensive. i really, chris, physically started shaking because it took me right back to that time 17 years ago when i sat in a courtroom and had to listen to another extreme pervert excuse and justify his vial crimes. it was an affront to humanity, i thought. >> let me bring in seema, an attorney. i this is t i noticed that the victim was very careful, she addressed the court, spoke to the judge in readi

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mark klaas is in san francisco.rc had to deal with this sadly 20 years ago when his daughter, polly klaas went missing, sadly, polly was not found alive. hannah was found alive. we're going to play a little more of that with these two folks. play again. >> she was found and she's safe. i'm very grateful for the amber alert program and how it played the role in the whole thing because without that this would not have happened. >> idaho wasn't even on the radar for her. nobody suspected her to be there. and the area, i mean, you saw aerial photos of it, it's much worse than it looks from the air. let me tell you. >> it's rough country. >> and for us to be there at the precise time to interact with them is one chance in a trillion. i mean, everything had to be just meshing otherwise we would have missed them. if they'd been over the side hill a little bit or inside their tent, we wouldn't have bothered. we would have never known. we would have never seen them. so that was just one of those once-in-a-lifetime events. >>

and i should point out, marc klaas, and forget me if i get this wrong. she is the first recipient of the klaas family housing fund. what can you tell us than? >> sure. this is something we put together earlier this year. it was -- it's funded by a woman named tracy mclaughlin, who is a real estate professional where i live. and she wanted to do something to help the victims of kidnapping with their housing costs, realizing and understanding that when a child is kidnapped, that everything else falls out the window, and you can very quickly slide into financial ruin. she wanted to be there to help them specifically with housing costs, because that's her profession. we decided that michelle would be an excellent choice for our first recipient. so that's exactly what we did. >> well, bravo, marc klaas. thank you for coming on. wendy murphy, thank you as well for being on the program tonight. >> you bet. >>> coming up more on michelle knight's face-to-face moment, her strength, and a long road to recovery. >> after 11 years, i'm finally been heard, and it's l

we are joined by mary ellen o'toole and mark klaas, founder of the klaas kids foundation. he lost his daughter 20 years ago. when you saw hannah's dad deliver that message to her urging her to make a run for it if she was able to and got the chance. what went through your mind? it is an important message that he try to get to her and to the man believed to be holding her. >> sure. i think he did a tremendous job. first, he appeal directly to the kidnapper for his daughter and then gave her an action plan. i think it is important that people and she listen to this. she doesn't have to just wait around to be rescued. what she has to do is find ways to keep herself alive until that moment comes when she can extricate herself from the situation. that could take days, as it took my friend missy sanchez or years as it took the women up in cleveland earlier this year but she has to find a way to stay alive and then effect her escape when she has an opportunity. >> mary ellen, what's your gut tell you about this case, about this suspect? from your experience what causes someone to

poly klaas was abducted from her home.marc klaas has being an advocate for child safety. thanks for joining us this morning. how are you doing? >> i'm well, don. thanks. thanks for having me. >> thanks for coming. what do you think the chances are that hannah anderson is alive now and may be able to survive the kidnapping? >> oh, i think the chances of her alive are good. she was obviously the object of this individual's affection and he would do whatever he can to get her. i can't imagine then that he would try to kill her. >> you know, mr. klaas, we tell kids to look out for strangers but in this case he was a close friend of the family. should we change our messages to kids to include adults they know? >> oh, absolutely. it's never really been about strangers. the vast majority of children that are abused are abused by somebody that they know. so i think that we need to change the rules. instead of not talking to strangers and, quite frankly, don, strangers are going to help a child out of a difficult situation. strange

marc klaas will be in studio to talk about hannah ahead. studio -- tonight on the kron-4 news at eight. oakland police aren't saying friday is that of missing oakland woman sandra coke. the federal investigator was last seen about a week ago. police say she was seen with her long-time ex-boyfriend. a paroled sex-offender -- on the day of her disappearance. he's 56-year-old randy alana - and police consider him a person of interest in the case. bart trains are running -- and will be through at least october. a judge has signed off on governor brown's request for a 60-day cooling-off period between bart and its union members. that means no strike -- at least for now. kron4 talked to riders today. during the cooling off period -- both sides will continue to work on a new contract. we'll have the latest on where the talks stand now - tonight at 6. police in redwood city are investigating a fatal crash this morning. it happened on 280-- near alpine. reports, the crash involved a party bus. new tonight -- two teenagers killed in a weekend car cra

facility also houses richard ramirez, better known as the night stalker, and richard allen davis, polly klaas' killer. the prison is more than 150 years old. the walls are crumbling. and the institution is outdated, contributing to an overwhelming increase in both the number and severity of brutal assaults by inmates. during the next hour, you will witness life inside san quentin, including a look inside california's vicious death row. >> san quentin opened in 1852 and today, seems physically trapped in the century in which it was conceived. old and decrepit, san quentin is riddled with shadowy alcoves and blind spots. there are no electrified, lethal fences. the towers around the perimeter must still be staffed where, incredibly, there are fewer surveillance cameras than a single convenience store. and worse yet, a lack of modernization has put officers in constant risk of inmate attack. >> every day i walk through those gates, the thought crosses my mind. is today going to be the last? >> the grounds are a sprawling 432 acres located on the shores of beautiful san francisco bay. >> customer

i want get now to marc klaas, of course, the father of polly klaas who went missing almost 20 years agotober of 1993. marc, you've been a bit critical of the emergency system, the amber alert that was put out in california, and other areas. and, but now it has come to this. do you think that this amber alert helped in this case? >> ultimately, i do, don. and let me just say how -- how important this is, what an object lesson this has to be for a small agency throughout the country, that if one of your, children is taken, you need to get ahold of the fbi. they have resources that are unavailable any place else. they have -- they have the ability to organize massive amounts of agencies, multiagency task forces and bring it to this result. i think my criticism of amber alert stands. i think that it was rolled up very, very badly and i think that many people have probably opted out that wouldn't have opted out had it been rolled out in a more judicious manner. but i do want to say that i think that this is a perfect ending. i'm glad that dimaggio is dead, and -- >> you're happy for this fam

thank you, marc klaas, appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> what is in a name? depends on who you ask in a legal battle. changing a son's name from messiah which is on his birth certificate but the parents of the 7-month-old could not agree on the last name so they ended up in court and the judge ruled the child's name should be martin michaela and leaves out the parents name messiah. >> messiah is a. only been earned by one person and that one person is jesus christ. >> never intended on that naming my son messiah because it means god and i didn't think a judge could make me change my baby's name because of her religious beliefs. >> we are more on the story. when asked what the judge thinks about the name jesus or jesus, she said she thought about it but it's not relevant to this case. the appeal is set for september 17th. ok, i am coming. [ susan ] i hate that the reason we're always stopping is because i have to go to the bathroom. and when we're sitting in traffic, i worry i'll have an accident. be right back. so today, i'm finally going to talk to my doctor

daphne's family came up with the idea after talking to child advocate, mark klaas.kland counclewoman was in charge of getting daphne's picture on the billboard at no cost to the family. its not clear how long it will run. daphne was kidnapped out of a car, while her father ran into a store.back in july. coming up on the kron 4 morning news. thieves are posing as construction workers burglarizing homes in one bay area city we will there you where and how you can protect yourself. and the number of child refugees from war in syria have have hit record number. details coming up. and san diego mayor bob filner is expected to make an announcement this afternoon. we will tell you what it could possibly be. in syria, the number of children made refugees by the war is now past the 1- million mark. according to two u.n. refugee and children's agencies, some 740-thousand of those children are under the age of 11. the office for the u.n. high commissioner for refugees says even after the children escape syria, they're traumatized, depressed and are in need of a reason for hope

." >> catherine: today, kron 4 also talked to missing child advocate marc klaas -- of the klass kids. >> pam: foundation-- to get his thoughts on kidnap victim hannah anderson. sharing her story online. >> it seems like terribly and risky behavior that she is online talking to a bunch of anonymous people. asking deeply personal questions about the ordeal that she just went through. look what she has gone through hundred she has gone through things that most people cannot even imagine. and you know what, she has been a victim of a horrible crime. and i'm sure she's validation now. probably more than she ever has before. before." >> catherine: >> pam: hannah also said, she wishes she could go back in time and risk her life -- to save her family. she adds. she will never forgive herself for not trying harder. this morning -- someone disabled the account -- and her postings were removed. >> pam: it has been five weeks since the disappearance of an oakland toddler. of a car, while her father ran into a store. >> pam: tonight -- friends and family are hoping to keep little daphne on the for

. >> while some have questioned if it's too soon for hannah to be speaking, marc klaas, child safetydvocate whose daughter polly was kidnapped and murdered in 1993, has no issue with it. >> we were doing network interviews very soon after learning about the death of my daughter polly. and we wanted to do that because we too wanted to be survivors and did not want to be victims. >> you are who you are. i mean, you shouldn't let people change that. and you have your own opinion on yourself. and other people's opinions shouldn't matter. >> that may be the attitude that led hannah to take the social media just days after her rescue. she wasn't prepared for the huge response from total strangers. >> it was a little overwhelming. but it also felt good to know that people prayed for me. >> but there was also negative response from people who couldn't understand why she was answering questions so quickly. >> i didn't know people could be so cruel. >> hannah explains that's just how teenagers connect with friends. >> i connect to them through facebook. and instagram, it just helps me grieve.

we are joined by mary ellen o'toole and marc klaas who lost his daughter 20 years ago. when you saw hannah's dad deliver the message, urging her to make a run for it, if she got the chance, what went through your mind? it's an important message to get to her and the man holding her. >> i think he did a tremendous job. he appeal eed directly to the kidnapper and then gave her an action plan. ift's important she and other people listen to this. she doesn't have to wait around to be rescued. she has to find ways to keep herself alive until that moment comes when she can extra kate herself from the situation. it could take days or years as it took the women up in cleveland earlier this year. she has to find a way to stay alive then affect her escape when she has an opportunity. >> mary ellen, what does your gut tell you about this case? what causes someone to do something like this? >> there's a couple things here. first, looking at the case based on the available information, the crime scene behavior appears to be impulsive and high risk. that would suggest to me something

daphne's family came up with the idea, after talking to child advocate, mark klaas.ge of getting daphne's picture on the billboard, at no cost to the family. its not clear how long it will run. daphne was kidnapped out of a car, while her father ran into a store.back in july. san francisco's city attorney is suing the agency that is pulling the accreditation of san francisco city college. city attorney dennis herrera claims, the decision by the agency known as the a-c-c-j-c. was politically motivated. and he says, a court should strike it down herrera says city college, and the a-c-c-j-c were in a political battle in the state legislature. just last week the u.s. department of education said, the agency violated numerous federal guidelines during its review process. a sad end to a search for a lost service dog that went missing earlier this week. lobo. who is pictured on your screen, was killed when he was hit by a car while on a freeway, according to cal- trans. the dog was rescued and trained to be a service dog through the program "operation freedom paws." on tues

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joining us now on the phone to talk more about the search and today's glove and what is marc klrc klaasosters like this this is when-- >> it is so easy for stores like this to be forgotten. the headlines coming every day. they want people to keep this front and center. hopefully, they will have a break in the case. >> the time is 8 05 a.m.. >> still ahead on the kron 4 morning news. more heat for a j.c. penney as they struggled to recreate their image. we will take a look at their back to school at that has parents concerned. >> family in france are of remembering on the life of an oakland woman. her body was identified yesterday, and we are now hearing from people who knew sandra coke. >> a temporary fix has been approved for the new eastern span of the bay bridge. however, there are still a number of factors that need to be considered before it opens. Ñáçwçñ >> the time is 8:09 a.m.. the search for missing oakland woman sandra coke is officially over. the oakland police department now confirms it was her body that searchers found near lagoon valley park in vacaville last week. those w

k go into your settings and turn it off for most things. >> marc klaas, thank you so much as always for your perspective. we so appreciate you. >>> coming up next, just hours after usher's son nearly drowns in a swimming pool, the singer's ex-wife is asking the court to step in. my legal panel debates this custody battle. >>> plus, today in cleveland, as crews demolish ariel castro's nightmare home, one of his victims makes an emotional appearance. >> nobody was there for me when i was missing. and i want the people out there to know, including the mothers, that they can have strength. they can have hope. d as hourly associates. there's opportunity here. i can use walmart's education benefits to get a degree, maybe work in it, or be an engineer, helping walmart conserve energy. even today, when our store does well, i earn quarterly bonuses. when people look at me, i hope they see someone working their way up. vo: opportunity, that's the real walmart. >>> breaking news. we have live pictures of philadelphia airport. we can pull them up. i can just tell you there has been a plane that has

. >> marc klaas, thank you for the words of encouragement. we want to get to cnn's miguel marquez in idaho with new information on that. miguel, what do you have for us? >> reporter: i just spoke to the grandparents of hannah, sarah and ralph, who are in santee, california, and, you know, they said that they are ecstatic. despite losing two members of their family, they are ecstatic that hannah is coming home to them. they called her their honey bunny. they didn't have a sense of the shape she was in. they fear that she's been through a heck of a traumatic experience the last several days, and certainly today as well. we don't know the details of how mr. dimaggio was taken out today. but they said they are coming home and jokingly at the end of the conversation, sarah said, you know, tell all parents to name their kids hannah. it is remarkable what this family has gone through. to lose so much, but to have days on end to be kept on tenterhooks over whether or not 16-year-old hannah would be found alive and well, to have this news today is eno

. >> pam: kron 4 talked to missing child advocate marc klaas --of the klass kids foundation. to get his thoughts on the kidnap victim. sharing her story online. >> look what she has been through, all my god. she's been through more things than some people could not even unimagined. probably more than she ever has before. and social media you are talking to anonymous people, completely anonymous. and if you are having a correction to someone you have never known before there lies an inherent risk. i hope that she does not get lured into some type of situation or another situation that will in danger. she meets a controlled environment that is more available than social media sites. >> pam: on our facebook page -- we want to hear what you think about hannah anderson's decision to share her story. >> pam: log on -- and give us your thoughts -- and we'll be reading some of the comments on our newscast tonight at 8-pm. >> reporter:in developing news. the california supreme court has refused another legal challenge to stop gay marriages. the challenge came from supporters of propos

mark klaas, whose daughter polly was kidnapped and murdered years ago, is glad investigators can reachred if this cell phone alert backfired. >> the problem is there was nothing for me to click on to, to find out exactly what was going on and the amber alert was activated almost 500 miles away from where i live. >> some have turned off the amber alert feature on their phones which concerns the group that activates those messages. >> we ask them to reconsider and opt back in. their participation is key to saving lives. >> hannah anderson's friends and family welcome any message to spread the news from high tech alerts to handcrafted message asking everyone to pray for hannah. >> according to several reports, relatives of dimaggio have said they don't think he's capable of kidnapping or murder and they think he can be a victim, too. right now, investigators just want to hear from anyone who sees him, the children, or the car. matt? >> joe, thank you very much. news analyst clint van zandt is an nbc analyst and former fbi profiler. good morning to you. >> hi matt, good morning. >> this gu

for what lies ahead for 16-year-old hannah anderson after this traumatic series child advocate marc klaas joins us. asiana airlines has responded to the first lawsuit filed by a passenger in the crash at sfo last month. people upset. the airline is denying suggesting that some of the the airline says it's offering passengers 10- thousand dollars for pain and suffering. new tonight at 8-- governor jerry brown has signed a new bill into law. that allows transgender students access to whichever restroom or lockerroom they want. california is the first state to enact such a law. a-b 12-66 gives k through 12 students the right "to participate in sex- segregated programs, based on their self- perception.regardless of their birth gender. to-school station in the bay area. go to our facebook page to they were children. photos. send them to breaking-news at kron-4 dot com. on back to school schedules. ahead at eight. >> we back after the break. >> the ceo of tesla unveils plans for a high speed transit system that he says could whisk you from san francisco to l-a -- in half an hour!!!! imagine a f