♪ ♪ ♪ >> i realize this new klan isn't as powerful as the old klan.ually feel lucky. unlike most of the black people in the history of this country who have been present for a cross burning, i get to leave. >> anthony: somebody asks you where you're from and you answer, "i'm from chicago," nobody's going to give you a patronizing response like, "oh, chicago's charming." >> pedestrian: hey, chicago! >> anthony: more likely it'll be "wow, chicago" or "oh, chicago." they'll be impressed. chicago's a town, a city that doesn't ever have to measure itself against any other city. other places have to measure themselves against it. it's big, it's outgoing, it's tough, it's opinionated, and everybody's got a story.

♪ >> i realize this new klan isn't as powerful as the old klan.that is even more undeniable when you see it up close. i actually feel lucky. unlike most of the black people in the history of this country who have been present for a cross burning, i get to leave. >>> one of america's favorite pastimes is lumping groups of people together. you know what i am talking about, like the whole idea of minorities. let's take all the people who are darker than vin diesel and call them minorities. and it does not make any sense, because we have so many cultures and languages and religions and things. the only thing that really bonds minorities together is that we believe that if you're going to eat pork, you got to use all the pig. you know what i mean? you can't just be like the white people and scrape off the bacon and the ribs and throw the rest of it away. no, you have to get in that pig. pickle that, brine that, suck o

♪ >> i realize this new klan isn't as powerful as the old klan.even more undeniable when you see it up close. i actually feel lucky. unlike most of the black people in the history of this country who have been present for a who have been present for a cross burning, i get to leave. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> i've never been to prison, except for this show. i've never been, which again is one of those weird things to say out loud. me going prison is how a person who lives in new york and never stepped on poop. doesn't mean you're good, just means you're lucky. i feel like there's two things that are true about prison. every man in this room has had the thought of who would be in prison. i would be the guy who ran the yard. i would be the guy who was in charge. come to me if you need everything. every guy thinks they would be that guy when most think [ crying ] please. my name is w. kamau bell. as a median, i've made

this is always going to be a klan. the klan has a purpose in life. that is the recreate qualified christians that are of good moral character standing. >> what means qualified? >> white and a christian. jews will never be in the klan. they're a dirty race. i'm proud to be white. you proud to be a black man? >> i did you marry a black woman? >> i'm married to a white woman. >> you know what the bible says about racial marriages. an abomination of sin. >> on the list of sins where is interracial marriage? there's like murder -- is that interracial marriage equal to that? >> it would be above because it's an abomination. >> so it's worse than murder? >> yeah. >> okay. i wish we could have this discussion in a coffee shop on a sunny day where i could buy you a piece of pie and you didn't have the mask on and we could talk about these same things on an equal level. >> that's not going to happen. that's not going to happen. this is part of the history of the klan. >> and you want to stay there. what is the future of america if the klan has its say? >> the

♪ >> i realize this new klan isn't as powerful as the old klan.ctually feel lucky. unlike most of the black people in the history of this country who have been present for a cross burning, i get to leave.

. >> and the ku klux klan. klux klan. now, is it -- i would imagine it's especially hot in these robes. >> oh, it's horrible. >> it's a sacrifice. the whole premise behind the mask is to show that we're equal. the mask makes us all equal in each other's eyes. >> so what do african-americans think about the klan? >> obviously, black people and the klan have had issues, to put it lightly. you know, me coming out here to talk to you guys is not something my mother dreamed of. >> no. >> so you know, obviously that's a thing. and i respect the fact you're letting me come out here and i also respect the fact you're letting me leave. >> i can tell you nordic order knights is a direct action group. if you come at us we're going to come back at you. we are not politically correct whatsoever. if you try to hurt one of our members, we will hurt you. >> mm-hmm. >> okay? >> i understand. >> don't let me sugar-coat anything. >> no, i understand. >> we're pro-white, 100%. we only work on our race. >> mm-hmm. >> the other mud

by sleeping with wives of members of the klan? >> yes i was, my searches were to sleep with as many wives as i could. >> yes i did pass the information on. after, you did solve the murder. to thevided information fbi that led to the solution of that crime. >> yes i did pass the information on. >> the committee will stand in recess. >> your question is, what criteria do you use in the selection of informants? >> it is based on needs. in our cases relating to extremist matters, surely in order to get an informant who can meld into a group which is engaged in a criminal type activity, you have a different set of criteria. if you are talking about internal security, we set rather high standards. a preliminary inquiry should be conducted, which is based of checks of headquarters, field office indices, checks with other informants who are operating in the same area and with various established sources, such as local police. following this, it would appear that the person is the type that has credibility and can be reliable, we would int

up marriages by sleeping with wives of members of the klan? >> yes, i was. my instructions were to try to sleep with as many wives as i could. that was probably the best information we could gather. >> mr. chairman, you did solve by providing information that led to the solution of that crime? >> yes, i did pass information on. >> committee will stand in recess for three minutes while we bring forth the other witnesses. >>> your question is -- >> what criteria do you use in selection of informants. >> they vary within needs in our cases relating to extremist matters. in order to get an informant who can meld into a group which is engaged in a criminal type activity you are going to have a different set of criteria. if you talking about our internal security matters i think we set rather high standards. we do require that a preliminary inquiry be conducted which consists of checks of our headquarters, embassies, field office, checks with other informants who are operating in the same area and with various established sources such as local polic

diminished from the last klan. mean, it's like when you go see one of the classic-era motown bands now. you know what i mean? you know what i'm saying?

when they say the ku klux klan yesterday, the ku klux klan today, the ku klux klan forever. that was just part of the man who wrote the speech was a klansman in fact. wallace was using the race issue to his own end. he knew the university was going to be desegregated. it was just a matter of time. frank rose, the president, made it happen peacefully. he did that first by going to the students. he went to every student leader, and he didn't say, please help me. he said, this is how you are going to help me. he got them on board. inn he went to the faculty november 1962 and said it was imperative to keep the university of alabama open and we would need to do this peacefully. what they were afraid of is what happened at ole miss in when october 1962 james meredith registered, and 26 marshals were shot. what happened here. and no one wanted that. certainly not the town fathers, and that is where frank rose went next. he got the town leaders behind peaceful desegregation. and then they began working for , it. they worked very hard, knowing that it was coming through the winter of

it came as a result of the orders from the head of the klan, sam bowers, and he said o go.nd they came to kill the whole family. >> and learn about the freedom summer school program. during the summer of 1964, when volunteers from around the country taught african-americans in mississippi methods of non-violent resistance and encouraged voter registration. >> there were meetings held throughout the city in various churches, preparing the residents and informing them of their political rights. and getting ready to register to vote. >> this weekend watch c-span's cities tour to hattiesburg, mississippi. saturday. on c-span 2's book tv. and saturday afternoon at 2:00 on american history tv. on c-span 3. >>> next, treasury secretary jack lew. with reporters on the domestic and global economies and his upcoming trip to the g-7 summit. the event was hosted by the washington bureau of the christian science monitor. it's 50 minutes.

you had the white citizens council, which was kind of the uptown klan.hese would be prominent community members. in addition, you are also going to have the mississippi state sovereignty commission. which was a state agency whose sole purpose was to prevent integration. that kind of kept it under states rights. these organizations, along with the klan and other groups really had an impact on mississippi and hattiesburg and just the way of life in mississippi. so hattiesburg, for instance, we have had voter registration. african-americans could not register to vote. everything was still segregated. a lot of the businesses and restaurants and hotels were still kind of under these kinds of old jim crow laws. one of the things i want to show, prior to freedom summer to show the kinds of things that happened in the forest county and hattiesburg area. you have the story of these two young boys. this is february of 1964. this is edgar and randy williamson. they were in jones county, the county north of hattiesburg. and so these two boys were eight , and nine ye

clinton slammed trump over his role in what she calls the insidious birther movement and disavow former klan leader david duke. >> we cannot let barack obama's legacy fall into donald trump's hands. we can't let all the hard work

. >> stephen: klan with a k. gets the biggest bang for the buck and that's why i joined the klan. >> okay. but my personal belief is that black people cannot maintain law and order on their own. >> really? that's my personal belief. and why do you think that is? white people have an inner drive for discipline and law and order. >> all white people? no, not all white people. (laughter) >> stephen: well... uh... great restraint shown by you in that interview. is that tough to sit there and listen to that? >> it was tough to try to sit there and eat. we were eating lunch. i couldn't take in the hatred and eat a bugger at the same time. it was too much multi-tasking. >> stephen: i found there are really delicious racist barbecue in the world, >> stephen: did you go to a cross burning. >> yes, i went to the first shooting, met the crew the night before the hotel and the first shooting, we went to a cross burning. first day of work, a cross burning. >> stephen: how do you keep yourself calm when there are people burnin

in the 1920's, there was a klan march in queens. police arrested people come all of them in lan robes. it was reported fred trump was one of those arrested. donald trump has tried to scroll out of the more and more evidence seems to point out that fred was one of these guys.s. the group was in the pudding. we know about woody guthrie's song about f fred trump's racis. amy: the song from the 1950's, woody guthrie singing "i suppose old man trump knows just how much racial hate he stirred up in the blood pot of human heart when he drawn that colored line here at his 1800 family project." >> sort t of a big middle-class housining development in brookln or queens. this obviously was the c case tt this guy has a reputation as a racist. by the 1970's, the justice department goes after the trump organization by which time young donald is kind of studying at his father's knee for gross violations of the 1968 civil rights act. which guaranteed open housing for african-americans and minorities. they really build a very impressive case. it was

the klan strapped 15 times of to the basedynamite of the transmitter. the klan strapped 15 times of the dynamite and blew up again. national event. it finally went back on the air in january 1971. pbs was returning -- i can't remember if it was the grand dragon. he said it was his proudest act. i think that's because he understood how dangerous independent media can be. dangerous because it allows people to speak for themselves. when you hear someone speaking from their own experience whether it is palestinian child or israeli grandmother, whether it's iraqi uncle when asked in afghanistan, whether it's a child in the south bronx or in ferguson, missouri. that breaks down stereotypes and caricatures that fuel the hate group. i think the media can be the greatest force for peace on earth instead all too often, it's a weapon of war. that's why we have to take it back. brian: here you are in 2008 at the republican national convention in minnesota. [video clip] >> do not arrest me! >> stay right there. back up. >> you're under arrest. back up back up. you'l

give me a list and i will let you know. >> i'm just talking about david duke and the ku klux klan hereknow david, i don't duke. i don't believe i've ever met him. amy: that is donald trump being challenged by jake tapper on cnn, whether he would unequivocally disavow support from david duke and the ku klux klan. our guests are the former mayor of seattle, mike mcginn, a bernie sanders supporter who him if the nominee work hillary clinton, will support her. we're also joined by kshama sawant, who is a socialist city councilmember here in seattle. she supports the bernie or bust campaign. here you have the republican frontrunner, the presumptive nominee, kshama sawant, who cannot quite get himself to say he would not accept the support of a klan leader. >> this is absolutely horrifying, the idea a right ring -- right-wing bigoted anti-immigrant islamaphobic multibillionaire could gain any traction in the minds of regular people. and what i find about this remarkable is not only that it is stomach turning, but it is also terrifying in the potential it might hold not just for trump ascendi

by members of the klan. >> the first freedom riders met violent resistance. second wave of riders knew they were stepping into a firestorm. >> i was hit in the head with a wooden crate and left lying there in a pool of blood. >> the horror of what was occurring, the unbelievability of what was occurring. these were americans who were doing this to other americans. >> beaten. arrested. jailed. i never had any sense of hate toward the people that beat me. i was inspired and never become bitter or hostile. and to be hopeful, to be optimistic, to never give up. >> at only 23, john lewis was the youngest organizer and speaker at the historic 1963 march on washington. >> we will march through the streets of jackson, through the streets of danville, through the streets of cambridge, through the streets of birmingham. [applause] >> but we will march in the spirit of love and with a spirit of dignity that we have shown here today. >> on march 7, 1965, lewis helped lead a group of 600 orderly protesters across the edmund pettis bridge in selma, alabama. it would become

he exposed klan members. supported a law to make it illegal to wear the mask in public.sk wearing in public places is undefensible and must be outlawed. all good citizens, we believe, must now realize that the mask in alabama is the source of unmitigated evil. it is a menace to life and limb. and a reproach to civilized society. concealed under hood and robe, men have stalked about in the night in alabama and cruelly assaulted helpless people. and other instances intimidated and wronged citizens of this state. grover c. hall sr. died in 1941 at the age of 53. a passing that was noted and mourned by many journalists and progressive citizens of alabama and the south, for standing almost alone against the forces of corruption and oppression in his state, grover cleveland hall sr. was awarded the 1928 pulitzer prize for editorial writing. [ applause ] our vision of what life was like in small southern towns during the depression has been shaped in powerful ways by a novel that won the pulitzer prize for fiction in 1961 to kill a mockingbird by harper lee. to help us relive t

you are asked the question on national television about whether or not your rejecting the ku klux klan and well-known i supremacists, that is not a dog whistle or political correctness, there is one correct answer to that, to reject them out of hand immediately and clearly when the fact that he did not in that interview says something. .. >> what we talk about in that particular chapter of the discussion is the feminist movement and how a bunch of it is built on saying that if you disagree with any part of the political agenda then you are not a real woman. i think that is the often explosive disqualification of other women. i have words with those that don't happen to agree with not every single issue and yet they will say over and over again stop talking that's enough out of you. or you are just a tool for other people. that robs women of their individuality and of their equality to say that unless you are over here you can't speak on political issues. my grandmother and my mother before me are interested in the quality of the sexes and that's why i'm here today to have a family and

announcer: in the slaying of vermin dollar at the hands of -- ku klux klan, held by anyonewhat reason did want to come and kill my daddy? they came as a result of orders from the head of the clan. they came to kill my whole family. announcer: and, learn about the summer of 1964, when volunteers from around the country taught african-american men in mississippi methods of nonviolent resistance, and encouraged voter registration. heldere were meetings throughout the city in various churches, preparing the residence and informing them of their political rights, and getting them registered to vote will stop -- registered to vote. announcer: watch throughout the day, and on sunday on c-span3. next, offer and wilbur laurier university -- wilfrid laurier university professor darren talks about the john birch society, a conservative advocacy group organized in the late 1930's. y inan tv interviewed mullo providence, rhode island. this is about 10 minutes. >> what is the john birch society? prof. mulloy: the john birch society is a political organization formed in 1958 in indianapolis, and has

imagine this, when the klu klux klan inspired dylann roof to kill nine people in a church in charlotte -- not charlotte -- charleston, we don't assume that all white males have to apologize or explain themselves about it. we don't -- no one comes up to white males and say, hey, look, man, do you condone this. we assume they reject that horrific behavior. and that is all people in the muslim community want. is to say, look, i'm a person. and of course we are absolutely against daesh. they are threatening to kill us if people don't know. so the thing is that this is an important question that we do contend with a lot. i'll just wrap up with this. whenever you hear about people -- refugees fleeing raqqa and iraq or you hear about bombings in iraq or you hear about these kind of things, who do you think they are killing? they are killing muslims. most of the blood on their hands of daesh and al qaeda and these maniacs are people who are muslim. there is no love for these people. or al sab ab. when they kill people in somalia, who are they killing. do you think boko haram care about the rel

it came as a result of orders from the head of the klan, "go annihilate him." and they came to kill a whole family. >> my husband was a civil rights activist in hattiesburg who worked to try to get african-americans registered to vote. he was a pastor at the shady grove church, he was a teacher of the sunday school and also sang in the choir. he owed a small grocery store, a sawmill, and he grew commercial cotton. we planted as much as 70 acres of cotton, a lot of cotton. >> my dad, vernon senior, was one of the founders of the naacp. it was nine men who established the naacp. at that time, it was definitely an underground organization. he felt having the opportunity to vote, because he could not vote, was hopefully the pathway to first-class citizenship. >> you had places the whites could go, the blacks couldn't go. the courthouse was the only place where they had bathrooms for black people. white and colored doors. water fountains were even like that. they would be side-by-side and have a white fountain and a black fountain, a colored cotton, what they really

, cue clucks klan as anti-trump -- cue clucks -- klan.ted about trump and kkk. hillary clinton endorsed that by retweeting that tweet. we should note that retweet has been since removed from her page. joining us the author of con man, that is crystal wright. welcome to the program. >> thank you, stuart. stuart: what does a black lady make of linking trump to the ku klux klan. >> the black lady named crystal wright and hillary clinton should watch out, elizabeth warren trying to be her surrogate, when you start accusing donald trump being racist you better be prepared gloves will come off. he is going to go, he will take on hillary's gender and will remind her she has been married to serial philanderer, bill clinton, without whom she wouldn't be able to run for president, not once, but twice. stuart: do you think there is anything in it? the argument is, that trump did not immediately say, dismiss anything to the kkk. >> correct. stuart: any klan supporter who supports trump. he didn't immediately, categorically dismiss this person. is tha

the threat for me when i was growing up was the klan. they were lynching people when where was a child so those were the demons. when you begin to exclude people and judge people as a class i think it is a serious error. we need to work to address that. i think the movement black lives matter is a reaction to that. i think it is not as focused as the civil rights movement, i think it is more a general protest, but an expression from the black community that we are americans, too. that is what my father was doing with his emancipation day celebration. we need to learn we can benefit from different cultures and life experiences that people have had and be a better and richer country because of it. the economic situation we have had and the fact we have had a congress that really has not been very active, i think that is added to the frustration. i think a lot of people are not being rational as they look at this. they are listening to slogans that have no depth or meaning to them. i am confidant we will get beyond this but i, as an america

clinton slammed trump over his role in what she calls the insidious birther movement and disavow former klan leader david duke. >> we cannot let barack obama's legacy fall into donald trump's hands. we can't let all the hard work and progress we achieved over the last seven and a half years be torn away. we have to move forward together. we have to bring our country together. we have to keep working toward that more perfect union. >> bernie sanders is not giving up. he will be campaigning today in indiana. cnn's jeff zeleny is with him. >> reporter: john and alison, bernie sanders making the case he is still in the race and fighting to win pledged delegates and super delegates and hillary clinton. the problem is the math. he knows it is difficult. he called the sunday news conference in washington to make the case he is pressing forward. back on the campaign trail in indiana. tomorrow in kentucky. i asked him about donald trump and whether any of bernie sanders words against hillary clinton will be used against him. donald trump will put bernie sanders words in his ads. >> no, i think that's

stuart: if the effort to use the ku klux klan to tear down donald trump.irst mentioned on the program and then we thought it was a one-off. and elizabeth warren, there's more enthusiasm for donald trump at the leaders of the kkk than leaders of the party that he controls. what's this, trash your opponent? >> normally they should be talking how great their presumptive nominee is, they can't do that, she's got serious problems, last night is evidence of that. having come from the left and been a community organizers, these kind of things are trial balloons, you will start seeing people planted inside crowds who are presumably supporters, but they will be very bad people with bad signs, we saw it with the tea party happening, how tea party was supposed to be racist. this is their plan through the summer and efforts at race riots, problems in the inner cities, and all they'll do is complain about donald trump. mr. trump's campaign team is going to have to recognize this, have messages that counter it, of course, and not be on the defensive. but this is a sign

. >> at a first klan's, they have lost some steam. only about a hundred 60,000 jobs got created.f you look at the details, the labor market is not in such bad shape. earnings are on the rise. these were jobs that were better paint. at this level, it is not easy to mention that. to europe now, you may have got the impression that it is over but the debt crisis is far from solved. lenders and creditors do not see either high -- i to live. they have now been paralyzed by antoher strike. that is ahead of the volk -- both by the green parliament. the ministry employees are rallying against the new austerity measures. >> while the green government is going on, it is also cutting down the pensions and adding new tax burdens. tourists are out of luck. the buses and trains are not moving either. journalists are striking two. the hospitals are only offering emergency services for now. everything the unions are doing now is to justify the existence. but it's greases international creditors who have demanded the austerity measures. the plans include pension cuts as well as tax increases. the

i was like, i don't know, maybe i should go talk to the ku klux klan.hmm. then it got quiet for a long time. but i could tell it was that kind of quiet where it was like that might be good for ratings. but kamau might die. but that might be really good for ratings. [ laughter ] when i pitched the ku klux klan idea i didn't think they'd actually let me do it. you know what i mean? i was just trying to be edgy ane

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while he is making some statements that i think he needs to clarify about white supremacists, the klan and david duke, at the same time, he is actually uttering words "black americans." he talks about how he's going to ease black unemployment in his immigration plan by getting rid of j-1 visas which allow foreign, young workers to come over here. and you know what he wants to replace it with? all on his web site. i wish he'd talk about it more, he wants to replace it with an inner city jobs bank where businesses, corporations, you name it, actually have -- are going to be forced to go to a jobs bank. i think it's innovative, it's more jack kemp style, right? enterprise zones. and i want to hear donald trump talk about that and really repudiate white supremacist -- which he kind of did today on today show. he actually said for the first time he does not want their vote, so i was glad to hear that. you can't talk out of both sides of your mouth. >> host: crystal wright, we hear from our call-in programs on c-span and booktv black conservative, i just don't get it. >> guest: yeah. they do

like have you been to a rally and seen a klan meet you know what i mean? it's divided.l right. we'll be right back. >> if you live in the new york city area or planning to visit grab free tickets to ♪ start boldly with the apple that bites back. redd's wicked apple. also available in mango and black cherry. bacon supreme omelet breakfast sandwich, loaded with peppers, onions, and potatoes and topped with two slices of cherrywood-smoked bacon and cheese all on a freshly baked croissant. america runs on dunkin'. >> larry: all right. thanks to my panel aida rodriguez and special thanks to donald trump for being here. we're almost out of time. before i go i'm going keep it a