. >> and the ku klux klan.e ku klux klan. now, is it -- i would imagine it's especially hot inhese >> imperial wizard nordic order knights. >> kamau bell. >> nice to meet you. >> nice to meet you. >> would you like to come over have a seat? >> sure. absolutely. >> no, not really. but we might as well start with some small talk. >> well, this is kentucky, man. it's hot. >> yes, sir. >> a lot of salt of the earth of americans. >> yeah, yeah. >> and the ku klux klan. >> and the ku klux klan. now, is it -- i would imagine it's especially hot in these robes. >> oh, it's horrible. >> it's a sacrifice. the whole premise behind the mask is to show that we're equal. the mask makes us all equal in each other's eyes. >> so what do african-americans think about the klan? >> obviously, black people and the klan have had issues, to put it lightly. you know, me coming out here to talk to you guys is not something my mother dreamed of. >> no. >> so you know, obviously that's a thing. and i respect the fact you're letting me co

♪ >> i realize this new klan isn't as powerful as the old klan.his image that is even more undeniable when you see it up close. i actually feel lucky. unlike most of the black people in the history of this country who have been present for a who have been present for a cross burning, i get to leave. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com ♪ >>> one of america's favorite pastimes is lumping groups of people together. you know what i'm talking about, like the whole idea of minorities. let's take all the people who are darker than vin diesel and call them minorities. [ laughter ] it doesn't make any sense. because we have so many cultures and languages and religions and things. the only thing that really bonds minorities together is that we believe that if you're going to eat pork you got to use all the pig. you know what i mean? [ laughter ] you can't just be like the white people and scrape off the bacon and the ribs and throw the rest away. you've got to get in that pig. pickle that, let's brine that, let's barbecue that. suck on that toenail. mm.

it was a broadly societal effort -- epitomized by the klan. founded in 1865, it was established to form new kinds of law and the creation of a new type of white supremacy. african american society was attacked on all levels, not simply physical violence, but psychologically and intellectually, and by the denial of all of their rights. but african-americans responded to that in a way that created their own society and allowed them to express their own vision for the future. the white hood became the symbol of the ku klux klan and was widely seen across society , protecting the identity of individuals, although in most communities, everyone knew who was underneath the hood. but it wasn't just the physical terror if you demised -- if you demised -- if you demised -- klan and the the lynchings other parts of society conducted. more than 4000 individuals were illegally murdered with no consequences on the perpetrators from the 1880's into the 1940's. it was a constant process of intimidation. it had to do with psychological intimidation, so the pub

and it's known for still having an active ku klux klan presence. what kind of vibe will i get

you making fun of the klan?"the klan is over there across the field and he knows all about what we're doing go talk to him." and he said,"we're going to." and they all walk across the field. and she said, "haul ass!" and we ran as fast as we could. >> that's awesome. >> stephen: we have to take a break we'll be back with more sam bee, john oliver, jon stewart, ed helms, and rob corddry. stick around. your passport and... oh ok, we're moving fast. ♪ to get around the city take the city bus. that's not a bus. you'll need a tour guide. apparently not. don't forget a big camera. or that phone will work. traveling by yourself can be lonely. and... you've already made friends. huh...you're fancy. ♪ shopping can be difficult if you don't know the language... ...oh never mind, your camera speaks spanish! ♪ hold up. is that a king?! where are you?! oh, your camera knows that too. ♪ ok, i guess you have the world traveler thing covered. ♪ of being there for my son's winning shot. that was it for me. that's why i'm quitting

how did he manage to do that the home of the klan in indiana? >> he identified what his dad found out about life. his dad turned his back on that hatred and advise d his kids to do the same. coach wooten listened to his dad. >> what you thought of him. >> when lewis came to los angeles, thought what he thought of coach wooten, one of the corniest people i have ever met. he reminded me of the farmer in the pep ridge farm commercial. that is nice, i am from the farm. do you think he was xhepding you? i am taking it that way. i am sure. it doesn't bother me. >> what did you really think of john wooten. here you are a 72 sevseven-foot guy. >> we immediately had a great conversation. i am there to be recruited for basketball, and the first conversation we had was about academics. it threw me off. i liked where he was coming from immediately. we were right away. >> i don't know how you cannot know this now, he mentioned lewis, he was talking about kareem, for the former luol sender. >> before you were coached by wooten at ucla, you were coached by a m

to florida and take this highly dangerous case were you having to move from house to house so the klan doesn't get you. we can't afford to lose you. marshall was really adamant about this, which i found interesting. he said, look, these cases are just important. these cases save lives. in a way, he was in the four forefront of black lives matter. he knew he was the last step come the last rate hope that there were men who work falsely accused of these crumbs facing the death penalty. marshall said it would move him because he was standing the lobby with the mothers of these boys and it would be begging and to save their boy because they knew they were innocent. that made a big impact. the voting rights cases come to housing cases come the school cases, you see marshall going down and taking is extraordinarily dangerous cases because they matter to him. brownvis was before board of education. talk about thurgood marshall's trajectory from thing involved in cases like these when some, even in his inner circle were saying, as you said, you should not take on these criminal cases, his traj

not since i talked to the klan. >> kamau. >> what's up, sir?>> what's up? did you enjoy the conference? >> yeah, it's been quite eye-opening. yeah, yeah, yeah. >> do you have any surprises? >> yeah, i mean do you want to sit down and talk? >> sure. >> while richard dresses nice and is friendly enough, he's actually the face of white supremacy's new more let's say optics-friendly side. who say we don't hate you, bro, would you maybe like just scram? >> so i've run events before. how is this going for you today? >> it feels a bit like you're a chicken with your head cut off. i'll probably crash at some point. >> i would imagine. >> but not after we've lived it up tonight. >> is there a party tonight? >> of course there's a party. this is the alt-right. we're not fuddy-duddy conservatives who go to sleep at 9:00 p.m. and get their mom to tuck them in at night. like we go out and have fun. >> okay. so where are the ladies at? >> there are some ladies here. >> i know. but you said we have ladies here. there was probably like ten who had their hands

and he was attacked bay mob of chancesmen -- klans men and was hoppized. he housed the -- with the mission of creating national discussion, dialogue and debate about first amendment rights and values. one of the first amendment rights we enjoy is the opportunity to look critically at our open past as citizens and mens of the us democracy, and so tonight to lead us in that discussion we are fortunate to have john farrell, author over the book by richard nixon: the life." hot off the presses, literally, and available in the back of the room. john farrell is the author of three biographs, first clarence darrow which won the los angeles become pride for the best biography of the year. second of speaker tip o'anyone which won the loin didn't johnson award for the best book in cronk, and third, richard nixon, the book we'll be discussing tonight, which will be published on march 28th. somehow we already have downs. he came to biography after a long career as a newspaperman for "the boston globe" "the denver post." and as a youngster, david maraniss, could peteed

every single member of the ku klux klan was a member of the democratic party. >> so going into the electionk support. >> just three weeks before the election, martin luther king is arrested. he and 50 other african-americans had entered a whites-only restaurant. >> the police were called. they refused to move. and they were all put in jail. including king. it got even worse when he was transferred in the middle of the night to a state penitentiary in rural georgia. >> and he's at risk there. his wife is afraid he's going to get killed. >> this is nixon's golden opportunity to rescue dr. king and scoop the black vote. ...so build a better website in under an hour with... ...gocentral from godaddy. the internet is waiting. start for free today at godaddy. when heartburn hits fight back fast with new tums chewy bites. fast relief in every bite. crunchy outside. chewy inside. tum tum tum tum new tums chewy bites. a lower a1c is a lot witabout choices.tes but it can be hard sometimes, 'cause different sides of you struggle with which ones to make. well, what if you kept making good ones? then? y

one of them had a falling out with the klan and he gets fired as the sculptor.he had to flee and destroy his models and he has to flee for his life. he had finished two figures and was starting on a third. brian: were any of these people in this crowd involved in mount rushmore? mr. snyder: some would say he was just interested in people funding his big projects. he was from the west, he was interested in the plight of western farmers and the plight of workers and his politics in many ways were aligned with people like felix frankfurter. there is a populism attached to his politics. and there were people in the administration who helped him make mount rushmore. coolidge gave him his initial federal funding. hoover carried it on a little bit but then he campaigned hard for fdr and fdr enabled rushmore to become rushmore. >> with you think this work will be completed? >> i am trying to finish it so the figures will be done by 1975 sufficiently to allow the president to unveil it. >> and the inscription? >> that may take another year. we are planning -- brian: have

all over the country and then the klan waged a hundred year terrorism.tate sanctioned. and i say it was state sanctioned because the state didn't try to do anything to prevent it and didn't try to punish anybody who did it. so it represents all of that. >> a lot. >> every confederate statu and flag literally represents the oppression of black people. >> alabama state senator hank sanders, thank you so much, sir, for spending time with us. we have some breaking news also this hour from the music world to share with you, gregg allman has died. the rock legend passed away at his home in georgia. he was one of the founders of the allman brothers band. he was 69 years old. a naturally aspirated 5.0-liter v8 engine. a 10-speed direct-shift transmission. a meticulously crafted interior. all of these are feats of engineering. combining them with near-perfect weight distribution... ...is a feat of amazing. experience the first-ever 471-horsepower lexus lc 500 or the multistage hybrid lc 500h. experience amazing. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast-act

. >> reporter: it's recruitment material for the ku klux klan. >> people think it's okay as if they'resking them to join the boy scouts. >> reporter: tonight people with a variety of faiths and backgrounds set a goal. >> when you touch your heart with someone's story purse cushion and shattered hopes, it really does move you to action. >> reporter: the best defense against hate may be in this room. >> we draw strength from each other. >> reporter: because for them the alternative is unacceptable. >> you can't let it stand. it can't go on. >> reporter: in upper dublin drew smith. >>> new at 11:00, president trump's son in law is reportedly under scrutiny in the russia investigation. investigators believe jared kushner has significant information about the investigation. but that does not mean they suspect him of a crime nor plan to charge him. it's also unclear why they're interested in kushner. investigators have been looking into whether truffmp associates interfered. >>> we're waiting for the results of montana's special house alection. voters went to the polls just a day after gianf

. >> nervous, about to talk to the klan. what's up, sir?man. >> good to see you. >> what's up? did you enjoy the conference? >> yeah, it's been quite eye opening. yeah, yeah, yeah. >> do you have any surprises? >> yeah, i mean do you want to sit down and talk? >> sure. >> while richard dresses nice and is friendly enough, he's actually the face of white supremacy's new, more let's say optics friendly side. we don't hate you, bro, would you like to scram? how is this going for you today? >> it feels a bit like you're a chicken with your head cut off. probably crash at some point. but not after tonight. >> is there a party tonight? >> of course there is a party. this is the alt-right. we're not fu did -- fuddy-duddy conservative conservatives whose moms tuck them in at night. we have fun. >> where are the ladies at? >> there are ladies here. >> there were probably ten who had their hands up. would it help your cause if on that stage in the press conference there were a couple women? >> we're not going to bring women up just for the sake of wo

the ku klux klan they were american bred terrorism.e can go ahead and say it is muslims or islam that is the people are practice -- that is wrong. terrorism is a tactic. it is a choice that a group of people use. most of the victims worldwide of muslim extremist terraces -- extremist terrorism groups is the muslims. victims are fellow muslims. the version that the perversion of religion -- the perversion of religion. you kill your own people. if you look at boko haram, they are killing their own africans. yes? host: this is the response from the department of homeland security yesterday saying that they are closely monitoring the situation -- eugene from laurel, maryland. independent line. caller: thank you for giving this opportunity. i really concur with a lot of the previous callers talked about. it is about hate and not about religion. acts of violence, the united states has a long history of christian terrorists and the obama bombing -- the oklahoma city bombing is an indication of that kind of violence. turn our eyes to one relig

he said this will be boom to ecruitment, talking about the ku klux klan and others on the far right. a big boom k it was when obama was president, but when donald trump, his campaign off, we saw it becoming very visible with duke, spencer, other names we had never heard of before. and like these around the country. we need leadership from the top. the ad, monday i saw "washington post" story about how the public administration is cutting funds. that is not the kind of move we need to make now. republican line from indiana, william, hi. hi.er: yeah, i'm listening to, i'm a lived that senior, i long, i'm called a senior. i've never heard so much stuff coming out of educated men. glasses, stop what you are saying about the republicans, stop the hate. both sides. stop the race, we're americans, together. stop. have all you gone insane? stop the hate. news every single attack, attack. on trump, leave the man alone. i'm democrat, i'm republican, brother.can, peace, host: -- guest: i'm an independent. before i blican became -- before i voted for democrats and that is because i a kid. up in

they, the confederate officers in particular, formed the core of the ku klux klan. we cannot say they both fought well. we can say that much. and they both fought for morally equivalent causes. you can't say that part. >> yes, in the middle. >> i'm a professor of history up in ashland. thank you for all of your perspective. the confederate commemorate landscape was largely dormant till the racist violence of 2015 activated oppositional perspectives, and particular, energize the lack lives matter movement to create new discourses around these monuments. are you concerned that the potential removal of this confederate landscape might not necessitate, not only acquiescing the history, but also, as we move forward, eradicating a platform for oppositional voices? >> who'd like to handle that? >> i think you're, i agree entirely with your premise and i know, it you wlel ell is something that we should bear in mind. dedication peak on day. in many cases, the climate was put up so they could have the dedication ceremony. that is what people wanted, was the dedication ceremo

-- he was a klan recruiter, he apologized.he never has apologized. >> i do know that we should extend to maxine waters the samt grace that we have extended, that we have asked, to the attorney general, who was deemed too racist to be a federal judge in the 1980s. we should extend to her the same grace that we extend to the president, who has objectively advocated for sexual assault of women. participated in racist activity, documented from the 1970s up until now when he led the birther movement. all of this -- >> tucker: look, we are talking about maxine waters here. and she is uncritically accepted by the left precisely because of her lunacy. i would challenge her assertion that she has got an impressive legislative record. i have been here almost thell entire time she has been here, i don't know they're there are a lot of water's bills that are improving my life. >> my firm participates vigorously in the corporate finance space and she has absolutely been a leader, a bipartisan leader, on consumer protection, has put this co

> neighbors in montgomery county held a candlelight vigil last night where flyers from the ku klux klanwere found this month. neighbors wanted to send a message that rate is not welcome in our community -- that hate is not welcome in our community. >>> memorial day send finally here. you see -- memorial day day is finally here. you see the pictures. >> signs of the holiday ahead. we've seen quite a few people out and about taking an early run or stroll along the boards. definitely it will be packed throughout the weekend as we close closer to memorial day. a new day for a well known roller coaster on the wildwood boardwalk. the great mower easter opens at maury's surfsides pier. the ride received a makeover replacing the to give it a test ride. >> and the bumper cars and rest of dorney park are open daily for the summer season starting today. new this year at the park, near allentown, the kaleidoscope ride that gives feeling the weightlessness -- >> wait for that. >> i've got my eyes closed. thank you. >> you don't even look at them? >> the bumper cars are fine. we're under cover, on th

>> why don't they add nazis and the ku klux klan and the muslim brotherhood and see how they react to that. this bill is not popular among democrats, they have democrats among cambodia, vietnam, korea, cuba and look around the world. look at cuba, korea, venezuela. hasn't worked so well. last i looked the soviet union lost the cold war? liz: good point, we're wondering why is this issue so important to democrat legislators in california now. don't they have more things to work on? >> this gets to something about our schools. we're all taught thankfully about the evils of nazism. communism which killed 100 million people, blighted the lives of others get a gloss. tensions were good, they killed everyone but tengs were good. it gets a gloss they don't know. liz: you're blaming academics. >> starts with the schools, sympathetic with the left because the left uses the right language, we're for the people. we may kill tens of millions but we're for the people. our intentions are good. they fall for the nonsense. ask the assemblyman, whatever his name is, his criteria, you want nazis in the

thewere workers, with the percentage of workers in unions were on the decline, in which the ku klux klan was able to march in large numbers in washington, d.c., renowned for anti-immigrant attacks, a kind of served as a ray of light of what was possible. and it also, for the communists, had a very strong impact. it showed that comments were competent organizers. it showed that they had the political perspective and the political program in order to achieve mass struggle. in themunist party 1920's and late 1920's was undergoing dramatic changes, which i call in my book the stalinization or to generate enerization of the commonest party. but for the moment, the passaic strike really put the communist in passaic andp, in the working class nationally and also internationally. something that, a year later, would become important in the -- ggle to free end on a of want to quote from weisbord. "the reald, importance of passaic is that there are many passaics. america is virtually built on passaics. not only of the textile industry but in every basic and heavy industry in the country. the monstr

. >> what happened yesterday was a klan rally. >> organized by alt-right leader richard spencer who posted this picture on twitter. the gathering on saturday night was in charlottesville and hold in protest to a city council vote to remove the statue of confederate general robert e. lee, a move put on hold by the courts. confederate symbols like it can be found all over virginia. statue, roads, schools and the battle flag. republican candidate for governor corey stewart made protecting the confederate so-called "heritage" a central piece of his campaign. >> it's time we stand up for virginia. >> all of this focus on the past is leading to mixed reactions today. in oldtown alexandria where confederate statue stands on south washington street you will find differing opinions on whether the symbols and the dialogue is productive. >> it may be good to let people continue to reflect about slavery and its meaning. >> i think there are a lot better things we need to work on in this world. jeff: last september the city council voted to remove and take down this statue but they would need support o

certainly, the ku klux klan has marched, gotten permits to marge, i support that, as well, though i don't they have to say. with that phrase, i may not agree with what you are saying but i will defend your right to say it. that is what we stand for, that is of the first amendment stands for. no government entity has the right to tell people what to believe and what to say. marching, you can have a permit to marge, it is part of that first amendment right that we agree. >> free speech is protected, even if it is hate speech. which none of us like to witness, but it also embodies something that we all hold very dear, which is people's right to speak their mind, as long as they do it peacefully. >> if people are worried about authoritarian tendencies, having the mayor or a government official claiming that there is no constitutional right to certain kinds of speech just because he opposes the viewpoint of that speech, when that is dangerous rhetoric on something that he should know better. he initially said that he thought it would be something -- a better idea if these didn't happen. that h

we had bombings of union strikes, criminal bombings, klu klux klan attacks, boyfriend/girlfriend murdersbe mostly terrorist related, but for many years, we had many large bombs all over the country for different reasons. but we talk about satellite spinning and the great work of our intelligence officials and the president being briefed. that's so important to understand the global connections, but really at the granular scene, we go in there and we get the guy's wallet from his blown up, bumped out pants and we pull out his driver's license. more often than not, even with terrorists, they have an i.d. on them. and that's where we start. if it's not there, finger prints are gathers, prhotographs of th remains that are left, and you are going to quickly pass that on to your intel professionals, your analysts, and they're going to start all that process that we discussed tonight. but you're then going to go to that scene, brian, the flat where this guy lives with the crucial question for the commander is, you know, is there another plot afoot? is there other people involved? and is this th

two of them were dressed as ku klux klan members.all faced up to a year in jail, one protester says her attorney will file a motion to have that verdict dismissed. joining us now with more on this, brian claypool, criminal defense attorney and emily, former federal attorney and former criminal defense attorney, thank you both for joining us. so emily, where is the line drawn between lawful protests in disrupting a proceeding? speak of this specific statute, destructive and disorderly is what is known as a catchall, so it means that it is a whole host of unruly or obnoxious behavior can fall into that category. for example, one of the protesters said, it wasn't an audible gasp, a mere laugh, i could not help myself. clearly, that was discrete duty not construed disruptive because the guard approached her then she became quite audibly disruptive when she was being brought out so the nature of the statute is that there is a whole host of behavior that falls under it. more importantly, it speaks to the respective that seat so the fact of

like to ask is when i say that abraham lincoln was republican and the democrats created the ku klux klan after they lost their slave trade in the civil war, the comment from the democrat what were once democrats are now republicans end quote were republicans are not democrats. in other words, the parties philosophies have changed to the point where now democrats could take credit for lincoln in winning the civil war. i was curious what especially the black fella there considers a good response to this insanity. >> corey. >> so, colorblindness inaction. i think that is certainly sort of deployment of history, what the republican party was like as a basis to making contemporary fields. what happens is black republicans themselves feel like party leadership over a lie on this historical narrative. the fundamental backdrop to that is if you knew better, you would end better. black republicans to elect the best way to do averages and to tell people to understand history. and so i think there's a real talent if you wanted to remove these historical facts from the broader context. no one can ar

we had bombings of union strikes, criminal bombings, klu klux klan attacks, boyfriend/girlfriend murders've subsided to be mostly terrorist related, but for many years, we had many large bombs all over the country for different reasons. but we talk about satellite spinning and the great work of our intelligence officials and the president being briefed. that's so important to understand the global connections, but really at the granular scene, we go in there and we get the guy's wallet from his burned out and blown up pants and his burned out and blown up wallet. we pull out his driver's license and see if it's there. more often than not, even with terrorists, they have an i.d. on them. and that's where we start. if it's not there, finger prints are gathers, photographs of the remains, of the head, of the face, what's left what you can gath of the clothing. and you are quickly going to pass that on to your intel professionals, your analysts. and they're going to start all that process that we've discussed a lot tonight. but you're then going to go to that scene, brian, the flat where thi

. >> new this morning, attorney general jeff sessions dressed in a ku klux klan costume and various hash of justice headquarters and the fbi building last night. now robin bell is credit for these projects. he's using the hashtag sessions must go and we need to see the memo. >> ♪ >> 5:35 is our time right now. we're kicking off the weekend. summer today, back to spring tomorrow. >> back to spring tomorrow, yup. and kind of a mixture of clouds and sun this weekend. not as much sun as we had the last few days. could use a little bit of a break. >> okay. >> already, it's just three days. [laughter] >> and you need a break. >> sensitive skin, sunburn. >> got you. okay. >> one more day of sunscreen and summer like weather before we get the springtime temperatures back in here really for the second half of may here we're going to kind of round things out without too much heat and humidity. satellite and radar showing what is actually a cold front off to our north. kind of hard to see this morning but it's there through northern portions of pennsylvania. that's sliding southward later today and

families of these boys that we're wokkrkg with them, with the families, with the tribes, with the klans, trying to save their son. rather than being the ones were put into the rehabilitation program. and it makes a lot of sense. he wanted to be able to say to the families be powerful message. >> and that leads to another question. when you are looking at incidents of terrorism inside the kingdom, how many of those are being carried out by saudi nationals and how many are being carried out by foreigners? >> translator: i did not prepare exact figures as to the number of saudis versus foreigners because bu what i've noticed recently is the number of foreigners has increased significantly. and this shows that the efforts that the government has taken are being effective and that people are starting to realize the dangers of working with these organizes. and i'm basing this on the number of people we have detained recently for foreign activities. the majority have been fornzers and we're seeing. >> you have can -- >> we hab centers and you look at the curriculum in the schools and can you t

history, and her latest book is called "the second coming of the kkk the ku klux klan and the , american political tradition." forthcoming. second, we will hear from richard wright, professor of american history at stanford university. he is a recipient of numerous honors, as are all of our panelists today. twice he received jury selection finalist for the pulitzer prize. prizehe won the parkman and he's also the past president of this organization, the organization of american historians. he has been a macarthur fellow. various other awards and prizes, including a guggenheim fellowship. he has a forthcoming book entitled "the republic for which it stands the united states , during reconstruction and the gilded age." part of the oxford history of united states series. he was the author of, among "railroaded:orks, the transcontinental and making of modern america." thank you. storytelling and a family's past, the organic machine, middle ground, indians come in the best indian empires. it is your misfortune and none of my own, a new history of the american west, the roots of dependency, su

so i worked on the ku klux klan, the whole thing. i would go to court and the bailiff would tell me to move, no, ma'am, this is for the lawyers. big, 6'4", 6'5", guns on both hips. >> when you told him you were the lawyer. >> first disbelief. and then he would have to check with somebody. and the jungs just couldn't believe it. i mean, this is '71, '72, '73 in the deep south. there was one case i had in alabama. it was so deep i was trying to get a change of menu for a young black boy. and i said, judge, you know, there is a lot of racial anonymous here. there is a sign that says, and i quote it used the n word, nigger, if you are reading this sign you are too deep in culver. that's on the side of the road. he said, oh, i heard about that sign, but i have never seen it. so a lot of experiences like that. >> as was true in law school, is it gender or is it race or is it eve ever both? >> it was both. someone asked me, elaine, which is it? and i said, you know, i can't pull myself apart. i'm pulling myself. i'm an african-american woma

is a particular obsession of jefferson sessions who once said the only time he turned against the klanard that they smoked weed, he was obsessed with marijuana. is jeff sessions obsessed with his own obsessions. >> we'd seen bipartisan movement with republicans and democrats talking about justice reform and dealing with the mass incarceration which disproportionately affects african-american men. even trump talked about this when he said to the black community, what do you got to lose? we've seen a lot what they've got to lose in the last couple of months. sessions is swimming against that tide and seems to be exerting his power the same way, this same week he violated his own recusal by participating in the firing of jim comey when he said he wouldn't have anything to do with the russian investigations, he helped can the guy in charge of it. so he does seeming to really consolidating power at the justice department for no good end. >> and in a very specific way. he either is just indulging his obsessions or some private prison interest and they're going to enrich him or this is about