clearly klauer city values both. but this policy is clear stating that surplus property goes toward -- clearly our city and values of both. if we're going to transfer this to open space, and has to be a sale. i'm curious as to why when you came to the board this was not a sale. >> when the property came to us, we reviewed it for use as housing or the revenue for housing. >> and john updike top acting director for real estate. this was originally the jurisdiction of department of public works. transferred under the surplus property ordinance to the mayor's office of housing. the item was a recision of the prior ordinance, returning the property to its home department -- home department. ordinarily, there would not be a payment made between departments. this is a unique circumstance in reversing a prior action. >supervisor kim: prior to being deemed surplus, this was the property of dpw? >> correct. supervisor kim: once the property is deemed surplus, what do you think the process has to be to give it back to a departm