according to klaus kleinfeld, a slowdown on growth section of alcoa. melissa: scott, do you buy that? what is your market telling you? >> what i'm hearing and this is what i'm seeing, goes against what everybody is saying, how does that sound? for last five years we're waiting for second half recovery. every single start to the year we talk about the second half recovery. guess what? it doesn't happen, like we'll have four interest rate rises at the end of the year. at the end of the day they are guiding lower guidance. we don't have a strong enough economy. look what corporate ceos of america are doing. they're not expanding, not buying new plants, not buying new buildings. we don't see true growth. second half recovery, blame it on hurricane matthew, they will find a reason why. melissa: they're not just blaming it on hurricane matthew. a a lot of companies are blaming election. that consumers are waiting until january to spend because of the election? john, does that make any sense to you? scott i will ask you in a second. >> that seems like a ridic