they're against klaus kleinfeld.his change in the valuation of what elliott is using, i regard it as minor. arconic is playing it up very big. i do say if -- you need some of these passive or less interested fund managers to come out. i don't think they have the numbers right now. >> as you're talking, guys, nasdaq record high and the dow joining it. hitting 21,025 or so, a fresh record for the dow. largely on the back of caterpillar, which got an upgrade today to overweight by barclays. >> it was amazing. look at this, boeing. some of these companies, i don't think people realize, because i think a lot of them just say, look, trump, trump, trump, and trump is weak. right now, it is a bad week for trump. we grade trump every day. the fact is, boeing has huge cash flow. the cash flow is the determinant of this quarter. boeing's cash flow, comcast, caterpill caterpillar's surprising cash flow. >> we started off the show with the comments from the chinese foreign minister th. boeing needs china. they split the orders 50