he first got aboard a klm aircraft in lagos, nigeria. that's his first screening point. then he went to amsterdam and then was, as i understand, held in a sanitized area, in other words, an area that would segregate him from the general population of the airport because he's a traveler transiting to another transatlantic flight. okay. no screening. he's being held in the sanitized area. now from there to detroit. so what we're talking about is a possibility now, i'm saying a possibility, that the only screening this guy had was lagos, nigeria. give me a break. okay? if he did, in fact, get screened in a -- >> larry: not screened in amsterdam? >> well, if he was screened in amsterdam, the screening was typical to what we do today. certainly he did not have what we call whole-body image screening which of course is the only answer to this problem. >> larry: back with more after this. >>> we were in the back of the plane and all of a sudden heard some screams. flight attendants ran up and down the aisles and i think we knew at the point when we saw the fear in the flight at

detroit is a major hub for what was northwest airlines and a longstanding relationship with klm. we did learn from representative peter king earlier that he believes that this passenger, the suspect, may have started in legos, nigeria, also on a klm flight connecting in amsterdam and going to detroit. let's turn to kate bolduan. what's going on? >> we've learned from this federal security bulletin that was put out that this was a nigerian national that ignited some type of a small explosive device. but real questions remain as we've been discussing and gaps and details remain about what type of device this was. we had early reports from delta airlines that this was firecrackers. we hear from congressman peter king who is briefed on the situation saying it was a fairly sophisticated device. the fbi is leading this investigation and are obviously checking into this person's background and capabilities. i spoke with a dutch aviation security expert just a short time ago. in general, we were talking about general security issues. he tells me that amsterdam is one of the busiest airpo

he first got aboard a klm aircraft in lagos, nigeria. then he went to amsterdam.nderstand he was held in a sanitized area, in other words an area that would segregate him from the general population of the airport because he is transiting to another transatlantic flight. no screening. he is being held in this sanitized area. now from there to detroit. so what we're talking about is a possibility now, i'm saying a possibility, that the only screening this guy had was lagos, nigeria. give me a break, okay. if he did, in fact, get screened in -- >> larry: not screened in amsterdam? >> if he was screened in amsterdam, the screening was typical to what we do today. certainly he did not have what we call whole body image screening which is the only answer to this problem. >> larry: back with more after this. this is a honda pilot. and this is the chevy traverse. it has more cargo space than pilot. and traverse beats honda on highway gas mileage too. more fuel efficient and 30% more room. maybe traverse can carry that stuff too. now during the chevy red tag event, get an

it is the headquarters for klm world airlines part of air france./northwest is part of it. now, northwest as it has been has been flying in and out of skipolsh. because northwest has had a relationship with world alliance for many, many years. this was a backbone route, a workhorse route from amsterdam to detroit for the airline involved. what we will be looking at is -- is this a richard reid? is this a type of incident. how serious and incredible? it's a needle in a haystack if you don't know what it is you're looking for on the next flight. >> richard, we'll be back with you shortly. richard is in rome for us following the story. nic robertson joins us on the phone. this suspect is allegedly nigerian. he's a nigerian national saying he's not ties to an extremist group and procured whatever this incendiary device. what about africa's influence on al qaeda? >> if you look at yemen, you're looking at somalia and countries like this. we know that al qaeda has a footprint in somalia. however, nigeria is on the west coast of africa. but what is interes