>> as facebook and apple, google, amazon creep further into our lives what does senator amy klobuchar say now. >> "firing line." is made possible by. the margaret and daniel lobe foundation, charles r swab. and by, corporate funding is provided by stevens inc and morgan stanley. >>> senator amy klobuchar, welcome to "firing line". >> thank you, it is wonderful to be on. thank you. >> the issue of trust busting was discussed on the original version of "firing line" and your new book "antitrust" taking on monopoly lets us look at it a new in 2021. today there are fewer than 5,000 public companies, down from 8500 in 1987. a lot of that is because of mergers and acquisitions. senator, what does it will us? >> i think what it wills us is that we are a country that is always believed in entrepreneurship and revitalizing this is happening to us when tech companies are controlling the gateways to so many services. consolidation across the board and consumers see it in cable prices to farmer's trying to get goods to market to epi pens to insulin. we believe and i believe as someone who worked

klobuchar, the only one wit yer than me is you. >> that's an unbelievably high priced. do you have that note? >> no. here's the thing, it was in one of my dad's books. i was looking for it for years. but i read it myse. that's amazing. we will take your word for it, your word for it is good enough for the program. you introduced your own version of the aercht mon pale legislation called the competition and anti-trust law enforcement act and one of your proposals is to shift the burden of proof to the merging parties to demonstrate that their merger will not violate the law. why is that important? >> because it's become harder and harder to prove out these cases. there was one 15-year period where plaintiffs won zero percentage of the time before the supreme court. so what i do here is for major, major mergers, saying, okay, instead of the government having to prove that this hurts competition, you have to show that it doesn't hurt competition, and it's just an acknowledgment of the sophisticated nature of the economy right now, and the lack of one side or the other. >>

amy klobuchar looks at monopolies and antitrust, and susan page reports on the life and career of house speaker nancy pelosi. fine full schedule information online, booktv.org or consult your program guide. >> during a virtual event hosted by the aspen institute amanda ripley discussed the important of healthy debate in conflict resolution. >> four years ago i felt as a journalist i had to do something differently. i felt it is so easy as a journalist to make our political conflicts worse even if you didn't intend to. some people intends to but most don't and yet here we were and it felt there was something i wasn't understanding about what was going on in the country and that is a problem. i spent time with people who study conflict, personal,

please welcome back to the show, senator amy klobuchar.ask, last week you were in the room. obviously, limited attendance for biden's first big speech exciting for many people, especially seeing two women on the dais behind him. maybe a little boring for other people senators romney and cruz both caught dozing off. how did you find the evening >> i actually thought it was a very good speech it was such a different environment. a little less partisan, because of the standing up and down, but i will say, no matter who the president is, before you go in there and watch a long speech at 9:00 -- coffee so -- but you can't drink too much you just drink a little. so that might have helped. [ talking over each other >> seth: yeah, that should be one of the things they teach sort of newly-elected officials insofar as how to deal with a long speech. >> yes >> seth: you know, i want to ask about -- certainly in the primary season, both you and president biden were framed as moderates in, you know, the very crowded, at the time, primary field. and yet

amy klobuchar and the states for democracy to try to protect the vote. >> to try to erase donald trump from the republican party is insane. the people who try to erase him are going to get erased. >> the move to erase the number three for not supporting the big lie. the move to push past the 6th. >> all we have to do is deal with the fallout that comes. most likely it will be a one-day story. most likely you won't loseshare >> when "all in" starts right now. >>> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. we have a country that devolves a lot of power to state and local governments. there's always a complex interplay between states, municipalities, federal government. one of the things that we allow state and local governments to do is administer elections. it creates a weirdly complicated system compared to other countries. you can argue states know what's best for their voters, right, since they are closest to them. the problem, of course, is that throughout much of this country's history that local power was abused primarily to stop black people from voting, to erect a one party mi

klobuchar: call the meeting to order. today, the senate rules committee was the hub of the highest-stakes political fight, over voting itself. and whether to expand voting access in all 50 states, with more early voting, absentees and mail voting, or to restrict those ideas out of concern for fraud. democrats are pushing a bill, the for the people act, to rewrite many aspects of elections. this, as 11 states have passed new laws of varying degrees that tighten ballot scrutiny and decrease voting access some shortening timelines for early or absentee voting, some stepping up voter id requirements. a 12th state, texas is debating , a new voting law this week. democrats see oppression. sen. klobuchar: these bills that are moving in state capitals across america are not empty threats. they are real efforts to people from voting. sen. schumer: don't tell us these laws are about voter fraud. you are more likely in america to be struck by lightning than commit voter fraud. lisa rare testimony from : democratic senate leader chuc

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but he and senator amy klobuchar have made it clear they want to put a lot of political power into tryingget some antitrust reform through congress during the biden era. so i totally agree, in terms of the court cases, the fcc's case against facebook, that's going to take so long, so many years. but in terms of forward motion on legislation, i think this is really the time for it. and democrats can see the opportunity. peter: ashley gold. ashley: i would echo what everyone has said here. i spoke to chairman sip illini of the house judiciary committee last night -- chairman cippoline of the house judiciary committee last night. he said he's planning to more hearings in addition to the one we're seeing today. one will focus on news media antitrust issues, which we're seeing play out in australia right now. so we are going to be taking a close look at that and then , we're also going to look at how they can resist antitrust law. so in addition to update the laws we already have on the books, we are also going to be looking at new forms of legislation. and while there's a lot of agreement, th

thank you very much for sharing that. >> thank you, senator klobuchar. now joining us via webexes senator blackburn. >> thank you so much madam chairman, and thank you for continuing to work on -- when you talk about tourism of course, memphis, nashville, east tennessee with the great smoky mountains which is the most visited park in our federal park system, we have been really hit by this. as i talked to leaders in the industry, whether it is the tourist industry or the motorcoach industry, whether it is at some of these small businesses and get lundberg, or the support crew for concerts. what i'm hearing is a labor shortage. what i am hearing is the increase in federal unemployment benefits is having a significant adverse impact on our labor pool. that is why our governor in tennessee is ending the end of next month, ending the plus up in unemployment. so mr. bill lupfer, am i saying your name right? >> yes, senator, you are. >> talk to me a little bit about miami, orlando, they are very similar in that tourists make up for the way nashville and the sm

appreciate it. >> thank you, senator klobuchar. now joining as the webex senator blackburn. >> thank you so much madam chairman, thank you for continuing to work on this. when you talk about tourism, of course memphis, nashville, east tennessee with the great smoky mountains, which is the most visited park in our several parks system. we have been really hit by this. and as i talk to leaders in the industry, whether it is the tour industry, whether it is the motorcoach industry, whether it is at some of the small businesses in gatlinburg or the support group for concerts, and what i am hearing is labor shortage. and what i am hearing is the increase in unemployment benefits is having a significant adverse impact on our labor pool. pool. and it's what our governor in tennessee is ending the end of next month, ending a plus in unemployment. so mr. lupfer, am i saying your name right first? >> yes-man, you are. >> okay. talk to me a little bit, i know miami, orlando are very similar in the tourist makeup for the way nashville and the

senator klobuchar? sen. klobuchar: thank you very much, mr. chairman, ranking member grassley, and congratulations to both of you for your nominations and for your incredible work. judge jackson, the last time you were here in december 2012, then representative paul ryan introduced you. you remember that? judge jackson: i do. sen. klobuchar: saying our politics made differ, but my praise for her integrity is unequivocal. on march 23, 2013 were confirmed by voice vote and have since presided over many jury trials, bench trials, and written 560 -- 562 opinions. what have you learned during your time during a judge that will inform your service on the d.c. circuit judge go -- d.c. circuit judge. judge jackson: thank you, senator. i have been fortunate to work in a district with terrific colleagues. what i have learned is a lot about agency practice, as has been previously mentioned. i did not do agency work in private practice or my role as a federal public defender. i have learned a lot about how our government works in talking with my colleague

tonight senator amy klobuchar in the state for democracy and the urgent need to protect the vote. then, -- >> to try to erase donald trump fit from the republican party is insane, and the people who try to erase him are going to wind up getting erased. >> the vote to remove the number three republican in the house leadership for not pushing the big lie. plus, reports of a new effort to move past january 6th and get corporations to start donating to republicans again. >> you have to do is try for your organization and deal with the fallout that comes from it. most likely it is going to be a one day story, and then you're not gonna lose money. >> when all in starts right now. >> good evening from new york i'm chris hayes. we have a country that devolves a lot of important -- it's part of the founders designed, and there's always a complex interplay between states, municipalities, federal government. one of the things that we allow state and local governments to do is administer elections. now it creates a complicated system, compared to other countries. you can argue though that sta

you could find some good common ground on these issues pray propose to go further than that her klobucharas. think we ought to have a hard band for megacorporations. does it haveav market capitol of 100 or more. we should change the standard think it's promoting competition, protecting competition. currently used overwhelming team with welfare standard which i think is of the two differential should change the standard i think that's good. need to have a debate not just the tech sector the big tech corporations are perhaps the most pressing. nursing economic concentration senator you mentioned changing the standard going to be able to bring other conservatives around too that idea? members of your own party, top leaders on antitrust subcommittees and said that's a nonstarter for them. >> guest: it is certainly a bold new move absolutely. i would say this is a principle of conservatism is a belief the free market and believing competition. the most conservatives especially those that find themselves in economic conservatives what's important to you, competition is going to come rights near

some good common ground between the two of us on these issues, i propose to go further than senator klobuchar i think we ought to have a hard band of mergers and acquisitions for making corporations that have a market cap of a hundred billion or more, we added change the standard the court used to evaluate antitrust cases, i think we ought to make up anti-promoting competition that ought to be the standard called the consumer welfare standard which i think ends up being too deferential and practice to monopolies, we had a change the standard and i highlight those because the two major areas where my bill is tougher and stronger than other proposals out there but i think that is good and we need to have a debate about how we are enforcing the law and we need to have a debate on how we can cut the monopoly corporations down the side not just in the tech sector although the big tech corporations are the most pressing but were seen economic concentration across multiple industries and i think we need to confront that. >> senator you mentioned changing the standard for antitrust litigation, are yo

.. >> antitrust published by our friends so senator klobuchar is a senior senator from minnesota in the first woman to be elected to the united states senate and also as she ran a formidable campaign as a candidate for president and the university of chicago law school important urgently needed book that shows how antitrust laws one save the country from the robber barons and will take and how more than 100 years later in the era of big tech the unprecedented corporate consolidation that can and must do it again. so thankfully as chair of the u.s. senate antitrust subcommittee we can do something about it. what makes antitrust is that she approaches the subject in the story of her own family experience with the antitrust policies have to do with lives when i knew that should be our guest tonight there's only one choice for the moderator of tonight's conversation. as president and ceo of the james l knight foundation, the publisher of the miami herald papers winning three pulitzer prizes for those excellence in journalism and like the senator is a concern for the consolidation of so much

the subcommittee i'm a part of an amy klobuchar shares which has her own antitrust proposal. usi think we can find some good common ground between the two of usun on these issues. i propose to go further than center klobuchar has been a think we ought to have a hard ban on mergers and acquisitions for those who have a market cap of 100 billion or more. i think we ought to change the standards courts used to evaluate antitrust cases. i think we ought to make it promoting competition, protecting competition. they use overwhelmingly called the welfare standard which i think is too deferential and practice to monopolies, so we ought to change the standard. most are two major areas where my bill is tougher and stronger than other proposals out there. i think that's good. i think we need to have a debate of enforcing the law. we need to have a debate on how we can cut the monopoly corporations down to sties not just the tech sectorhe the big tech are the most pressing producing economic concentration to mention the standard for litigation are you going to be able to bring other con

on the first issue i have a lot of faith, already senator klobuchar and peters are looking into what went on and i have faith in what they're doing. occasionally they reach out to other committees wherethey need expertise . you got your 2, that's more than one. go ahead. [inaudible] we preferred to do it bipartisan. every democrat voted for bipartisan but facts must come out. go ahead, next. [inaudible] look, i'm not going to get into the specifics. we need big bold action and that means we need significant infrastructure money along the lines of what president biden has proposed . i hardly saw his hand. i said i think i've said previously we would look todo that in july . this isnow june . >>. [inaudible] yes, chairman wyden sometimes has the power of a president over certain matters. we were in touch all the time. there were someobjections to that provision . from the administration. yes. >>. [inaudible] why would you not think this was the beginning of the end? >> i've said it again and again. we have to have big bold action. we cannot fail on things like s1 and we will continue t

on the first issue, i have a lot of faith klobuchar and senator peters are looking extensively on whatn january 6 and i have a lot of faith in what they are doing is a lot of it they are working together, occasionally they reach out to other committees like yourself where they need to. yes, no. you got to, that's more than one. >> [inaudible question] >> we prefer to do it bipartisan. every democrat voted bipartisan but the facts must come out. go ahead, next. >> [inaudible question] >> we need big, bold, i'm not going to get into the specifics. we need big, bold action and that means significant infrastructure money along the lines of what president biden is proposed. go ahead. he just went like this, i hardly saw his hand. >> [inaudible question] >> i said i think i said previously we would look to do that in july. this is about june. >> [inaudible question] >> yes, the president. chairman sometimes has the power of the president over certain matters. we were in touch all the time. there were some objections to that provision. from the administration. yes. >> [inaudible question] >>

your father jim klobuchar would be proud of the storyteller of that book. congratulations. it is very readable. >> thank you. thank you so much and so great to be on i'm such an admirer of yours and what you have done for news in miami with the paper and the foundation. it so important you are heading up with the work you have done with pbs and other news organizations. what drove me to write this was my own life working for monopoly basically that doing everything he could as the son of immigrants because unlike what happened to him to enter a two-year community college and then interviewing everyone from my ticket to ginger rogers and michael reagan and that happened because my grandpa had a job that also wanted a different life and wanted her family to detach from the monopoly powers. so right now what we see in america so used to be the robber barons and the sugar trust and we start to see that but then migrate concern for strong journalism in terms of paying and then the second reason i started three years ago before the presidential part my campaign did come to an abr

with that, i turn it over to senator rosen with us remotely. >> thank you senator klobuchar. thank you dr. lander for your research, your service, and your willingness to serve in the future. we were able to have a great conversation. i want to build on my colleagues questions -- my colleagues tossed -- my colleague's question about stem education. that is one of my top priorities in congress. building our stem workforce. by building blocks to stem access expanded the national science foundation program. it helped increase participation for girls in computer science. there is just so much more work we have to do, particularly in breaking down barriers that stand in the way of students of all ages, of all genders, all backgrounds, urban, rural, across the board. what role do you see you have in helping promote stem education and workforce training? how can you partner with all of us? the 21st century economy needs a 21st century workforce to find wonderful breakthroughs. how can you use your platform to help promote these exciting things and the work you can do when you pursue

. >> let's listen to what senator klobuchar, the chair of the committee, had to say about the campaign finance components of this. >> the secret money is flooding our election, denying voters arrived to know who is trying to influence their votes. spending for the 2020 election cycle was approximately 14 billion, that is more than double the 2016 election cycle, and while more than 98% of americans who made political contributions last year gave less than $200, those who gave donations larger than that accounted for nearly three quarters of all contributions made. we need to take these threats to our democracy head-on with immediate action to restore americans confidence in our political system and that is exactly what the for the people act does. >> senator, in the past this would be considered two different pieces of legislation, campaign finance reform was always one discussion and one kind of legislative vehicle, and voting rights were always another discussion and another kind of legislative vehicle. why have they been combined here? >> well, this is about election protection, and

he started texting me, i swear to god, i had an event last night with senator amy klobuchar, a book event, a virtual book event. and in the middle of it, i started getting texts. he said, please, don't tell anybody, please keep it to yourself, but corey kluber has a no-hitter going through the fifth inning, don't say anything, you'll jinx it. >> i have them, too. >> he was doing his best to jinx it. >> i have them too. >> speaking of amy klobuchar. they had -- "the new york times" did a remarkable remembrance of her father and that guy, i encourage everybody to read it, what an extraordinary life. we heard about his battles with alcohol. he fought those and had been sober for 25 years, but this guy climbed the materhorn eight times, climbed kilimanjaro, put chalk between his teeth and had a sharpshooter shoot it out. the stories he covered were incredible. and little-known fact. senator klobuchar's father was the kid at the time to call minnesota -- one of three kids to call minnesota for jfk after they looked at the numbers and that put jfk over the top. the ap called it like 15 minutes

senator amy klobuchar who will vote shortly on the commission and who is chairwoman of the senate rules commission joins me now. what is the mood there like today? >> well, we're very focused on the competition bill, but this fact that my colleagues are not going to allow this commission to go forward, i think some of them will vote for it, chris. it just, it shocked me. i keep having the image of these workers the day after the insurrection, sweeping the glass away. sweeping the glass from the capitol windows away, and it's like they're trying to sweep the facts away right now. you heard from the mother of officer sicknick who died that evening, and you heard her words, she is not used to doing this kind of things, she's an ordinary person drinks ordinary things. talking to senators saying why don't you want the facts? i think it is so important that this be a thorough bipartisan inquiry. we are doing a report that will come out in about a week or so out of the rules committee and the homeland security committee in the senate. that is important to do, that is what senator peters and se

senator klobuchar?> thank you very much for your great work in nevada and across the country when it comes to tourism as well as thank you so much, senator scott. i know that last week, you had a hearing on international tourism. a really important topic. in your testimony, you emphasized the importance of that when it comes to international travel. one recent report found that international travel does not begin to reopen soon, the u.s. is projected to lose 175 billion dollars in spending by the end of 2021. can you talk about the importance of the role of rand usa in what we need to do going forward? >> >> thank you, senator. if you think about tourism marketing, there are three buckets. there's the local level, state level, and national level. for a long time, the u.s. was without a travel marketing office. at this point, the smallest members are able to participate because of leveraging working with your county than the state office than the national office at brand usa. to take those dollars collec

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senator amy klobuchar, democrat from minnesota who'll vote shortly on the january 6th commission andirwoman of the senate rules committee has already gaveled a hearing on the january 6th attack joins me now. >> thanks, chris. >> what's the mood like there today? >> well, we're very focused on the competition bill, but this fact that my colleagues are not going to allow this commission to go forward, i think some of them will vote for it, chris. it just -- it shocks me. i just keep having the image of these workers the day after the insurrection sweeping the glass away, sweeping the glass away from the capitol windows away. and it's like they're trying to sweep the facts away right now. you heard from the mother of officers sicknick who died that evening. and you heard her words. she's not used to doing these kinds of things. she's an ordinary person doing extraordinary things, talking to senators saying why won't you want the facts? and i think it's so important that this be a thorough bipartisan inquiry. you know, we are doing a report that will come out in about a week or so out of

senator klobuchar. >> hard act to follow there. thank you, senator grassley, for your interest in this issue. mr. harris, we were on a panel together in march and good to see you again. could you explain more about how company's market power exacerbates extremist content and bias? >> yeah. well, it's great to see you again too, thank you for the question, senator. if there's anyone in an alternative model to the current models that plague us, can they succeed in the marketplace? there's something in, you know, the literature where -- is very hard for there to be an alternative. so market concentration means that even if there are alternatives trying to do -- any of the problems we're talking about today differently, they're going to get bought up by the existing platforms. the only way you can fund a company is if there is an exit pathway. >> could i -- i think that point just can't be lost. there are regulations we can put in place. that's one way to do it. and you can do both things at once. if you have a company that buys out ev

. >> that is senator amy klobuchar, stop the fw of vaccine misinformation on their platforms.s may seem too tall an order with how vast these networks are but it turns ot that 65% of all covid vaccine misinformation shared on facebook and twitter comes from only 12 people! the disinformation dozen. half of american adults have gotten the shot but according to the cdc, vaccination rates are slowing down. vaccine hesincy is part much it but keep in mind that's been around way but social media has amplified the anti-vax movement, and allowed it to spread across platforms. that's given the 12 accounts making up the "disinformation dozen" time to build their base and perfect their messages. >> they're luck in industry. they're well-resourced, they're well-financed, they've thought a lot about how they can target their market. >> sreenivasan: that's imran ahmed, the c.e.o. of the center for countering digital hate. his organization, identify the disinformation, does it by looking at their massive social media followings, and the high volume of anti-vaccine content that they put out.

for example, senator klobuchar has a piece of legislation right now that is pending that would limithe ability of big companies to do any acquisitions. by the way, that is not just tech companies, but all companies. i don't think that necessarily the idea, as when people start companies, to those companies fail and for many being acquired by a larger company is the way to realize their success. her proposal is one worth debating and because it is industrywide, it has an intellectual consistency to it. ashley: while we are on the topic of legislation, there is a lot floating out there, whether it is section 230 bills, antitrust bills, privacy bills. out of all of those main areas where tech policy could go, where do you see the most likely action in the next couple of years? and also, what type of legislation do you think your partner companies and the companies that you hope to represent could live with and not have a terrible time with? adam: i think you will probably see like with all legislation, , you will see with areas with the least amount of controversy. you look at data port

. >> joining us now, amy klobuchar. you. >> thanks, rachel. >> so obviously you weren't preparing for this hearing knowing there would be a mass shooting at the moment you were working to confirm the next person. i wonder if that is going to affect the way you and your colleagues approach not only this hearing but the question of policy today? >> i literally couldn't believe some of my colleagues, senator cruz who preceded me are railing against this nominee, mr. chipman, by the way 25 years of experience with the agency. investigated the world trade center bombing, investigated the oklahoma city bombing. completely qualified for this job because he holds views that the vast majority of americans hold, like 90% of them support university background checks. he gets criticized for these views while we have an on going mass shooting where we know there are already eight fatalities. i guess the irony was lost on them but should not be loss on the american people that we need a person. i was able to convince republicans to s

had two bills introduced in congress , and then a bill introduced on the senate side by senator klobuchar and duckworth. the la city council president has introduced a bill in new york city council so people recognize. we can't shorten the economic a plan. the jobs report came out and the reason why we haven't seen this expansive growth is because schools are still not open full-time. people still don't have a plan as tohow they will pay for childcare . so until that changes, we are never really going to have a true economic cover. our labor market participation is where it was in 1989. when we started this pan the labor . now 57 percent are in the labor force that deeply problematic for our country, especially when seven families are bread inoften she loses her job the entire family suffers. >> i apologize, #27 40,000 mothers, 242-74-8140 others hearing in maryland. this is elizabeth for our guest, founder and ceo of girls who code. good morning, go ahead. >> i grew up in germany and i am familiar with these rules and regulations for women working and when women go on maternity leave for

so, for example, senator klobuchar has a piece of legislation now that is pending that would limit the ability of big companies to do any acquisitions. by the way that's not just tech companies. that's all companies. i don't think that's necessarily a great idea because one of the things you see as many people start companies, most of this company sales for many of those companies being acquired by a large company is a way to realize their success. but it do think our proposal is one worth debating and again because it's industrywide not just tech it has an intellectual consistency to it. >> while were on the topic of legislation, there's a lot floating out there, whether it's section 230 section 230 bills, antitrust bills, piracy bills. out of all of those main areas where tech policy could go, where do you see the most likely action in the next couple of years? also what type of legislation do you think your partner companies and the companies he hope to represent could live with, and you know, not have a terrible time with? >> guest: you will probably see like with a legislation the

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klobuchar: mr. president. the presiding officer: the senator from minnesota. ms. klobuchar: mr., as chair of the rules committee, i implore my colleagues to vote for this commission. on january 6, we all walked over that broken glass. we all saw the spray paint on the walls. we all stood huddled together in shelter and most of us -- most of us -- the vast majority of republicans and democrats voted to uphold democracy late into the evening. it doesn't end there. i give to you the words the words of slain officer brian sicknick's mother, a woman who has never -- she had lobbied members of this body. she said this, not having a january 6 commission to look into exactly what has occurred is a slap in the faces of all the officers who did their jobs that day. for months national security experts have called for a bipartisan commission. yesterday the department of homeland security former secretaries from the bush and obama administrations, chertoff, ridge, napolitano, johnson, all called for this commission. this commission is modeled exactly after the gold standard of investigation

we just got headlines that senator amy klobuchar is investigating amazon. what is your reaction? that there is not just some dissatisfaction, but ultimately, this is a legal proceeding. one of the big gauges is does this eliminate competition? mgm is a relatively small studio. there's plenty of competition in the streaming wars, so i think the doj for ftc will ask if it meaningfully eliminates choices for customers, and it is really difficult to make the argument that it does. emily: this is on the back of the washington attorney general filing the first antitrust suit against amazon in the area of third-party sellers, where amazon has argued it does not have a monopoly even in e-commerce. brad: right. if you look at overall market share in retail, that may be true, but there is the aspect of its conduct and amazon forcing sellers to give them the lowest price. because amazon has gotten so big, the argument starts to smell a little funny. if it's the kind of thing that does not pose an existential threat to the company, they could simply change their policy. emily: in your book,

that was almost done nine month long process amy klobuchar and staff going back ngand forth and or and hatch who was a rules committee chairman. >> went to that experience show you have how far washington has to go to be feminist and even to represent? because ass you point out fathers raise children to. >> one thing i learned you can find allies in unexpected places.te that process senators knew i was having this conversations and negotiating some are very traditional or and hatch is at the forefront with the rules committee chairman. he didn't want to change the rules and what is the baby's dress code going to be? i am thinking are you seriously ask me what the newborn baby is what the senate dress code? must wear shoes and a blazer. okay. she will wear a beanie. i will not take that off. she will be in for the pajamas. i could put shoes on that and i can guess i can put her in a blazer. which idea but in other members said, marco rubio someone i hardly ever agreed with said tammy come i am with you i will speak up i wish i could have brought myou young kids to the floor. and roy blu

you have moments ago senator klobuchar tweeting, and that is going to be relevant here, the pr campaign. she tweeted, saying why are senate republicans afraid of the truth? that is something that they will be doing. they will be speaking out, criticizing, and they will try to hold republicans accountable for not move forward on this independent commission. furthermore, they are still trying to get to the bottom of this to say to the truth. >> suzanne malveaux, thanks so much. we're also following an astonishing statement from the former fda commissioner under president trump. scott gottlieb revealing he does think it's possible covid-19 escaped from a chinese lab, not as part of something nefarious, but in a much more innocent way. let's listen. >> i think that that political narrative is conflicting with a more plausible narrative, is this is a strain that was found in nature that was brought to the lap for further evaluation, and in the course of evaluating it, and maybe doing research on how to develop counter measures against it, it became more humanized, more human adapted, and acc

that was almost a nine-month long process of negotiations with amy klobuchar. and orin hatch was the lead committee chairman. host: what does that experience tell you and show you how far washington has to go to be truly feminist with the ability to represent? because as you point out others raise children. >> one thing i learned you can find allies in unexpected places. once a senators knew i was having these conversations and negotiating. orin hatch really didn't want to change the rules. what will the babies dress code going to be? as a mom are you seriously asking me if the baby would adhere to a senate dress code? must have a blazer and shoes. she wears a beanie. i will not take that off. she would be in for the pajamas. i could put shoes on that. i will put a blazer on her. i did that day. but i had members, republican members, marco rubio i hardly ever agree said tammy, i am with you. i will stick up for you. i wish i could've brought my young kids to the floor. we need to do this. we need to change the rules. and roy blunt said tammy i will be the next

amy klobuchar looks at monopolies and antitrust, and susan page reports on the life and career of house nancy pelosi. fine full schedule information online, booktv.org or consult your program guide. >> during a virtual event hosted by the aspen institute amanda ripley discussed the important of healthy debate in conflict resolution. >> four years ago i felt as a journalist i had to do something differently. i felt it is so easy as a journalist to make our political conflicts worse even if you didn't intend to. some people intends to but most don't and yet here we were and it felt there was something i wasn't understanding about what was going on in the country and that is a problem. i spent time with people who study conflict, personal, political, professional, at scale, individual, and the study of conflict as a system particularly intractable conflict, to me really clicked everything else into place. a lot of forces got us where we are but that as an over way made everything make sense in a distorted way. the question became what can we learn from people who have been through ugly con

including democratic senators mazie hirono of hawaii in amy klobuchar of minnesota per usa today washington bureau chief susan pages reports on the life and career of house speaker nancy placita. five full schedule information online @booktv. or consult your program guide. now, we kick off the weekend with journalists katie englehart's look at the right to die debate. >> our interview for tonight is barker, she is the author of strangers and rounding. impossible idealism, drastic choices and the urge to help. she is a staff writer at the near good magazine where she's written about domestic violence, dementia, philosophy, child welfare system, jon ashbury, barack obama, and the falkland islands among other subjects. she'll be speaking with our featured author katie ingle heart. she is a reporter and documentary film producer, she's also a national fellow at new america. she has worked as a correspondent for news in london and nbc news in new york. her new book, the inevitable, as a riveting incisive wide-ranging book about the right to die movement and the doctors, patients and activists at

. >> amy klobuchar ready for action. democrats do have 40 new members sponsoring the bill but the holdouts, senator joe manchin of west virginia who opposes the current version and has said repeatedly he wants a bipartisan plan instead. republicans have made it clear they have no interest in compromising on establishing a federal voting rights requiring states to automatically register voters. offer 15 days of early voting among other provisions. g.o.p. senators blasting legislation today is a "federal takeover of elections by one party." >> if this bill were to pass, nobody would have any confidence in it. none whatsoever. let's call it what it is. put aside the flowery language. this is a partisan effort to take over how you conduct elections in our country. >> a lot of unhappy people on capitol hill. some people want to move forward. the democrats described the legislation is crucial to protecting american democracy from what they call restrictive voting laws especially the kind we have seen pop up in states like ariz