that's kind of where -- i mean, the guys, the valuable guys at this reunion are freddie and per, fred klug, al montgomery, alan brown. it's not -- you know, they're not here -- >> why did you come back then? that may be a way of escape. and i can probably guess your answer. >> because maybe i need them as much as they need me. >> but do they know that, that you need them like they need you? >> no. because i don't think i've gotten -- i don't think i've gotten in touch with my sensitivity to be able to communicate back -- and many other pieces, we never have time for meaningful conversation. it is -- i mean, for example, tonight when we go to the dinner, we will be overcome by lots of stuff. so to sit down and have a meaningful conversation with these guys about what you feel, how you feel, where you are, whatever, i've never done that. the only guy that i've spent after vietnam some quality time with is don adams. and that's just been recent. because we go to football games together. he's a big georgia tech guy. and we go down and spend time with him. and i stay at his house. but we've nev