to learn more we spoke with a former member of the french secret service klugman he had spent decades researching terror networks between europe and the middle east and he says the evidence is clear. some time so that islam is a central figure and the only survivor not counting supporters in syria or iraq without up to slam there would have been no paris attacks on the thirteenth of november or the brussels attacks of march twenty second. it was hard to slant he brought the terrorists into the country in small groups who rented their hideouts and the vehicles that they used to plunk down a killing. investigators worked intensely to locate up to salaam and he started making mistakes in the end he had almost nowhere left to hide. due to my day the house searches interrogation research large scale surveillance operations all of that steadily reduce the circle of people that could trust them with confusions after his arrest of the slum was. taken to a maximum security prison near paris and since then he has said nothing his lawyer spend mary described as a small time criminal who's too st

. >> chris's idea has to do with a form -- i mentioned that you and like jack klugman and tony randall there some universal income that makes sense or does that take away from, you know, earning a living does it take away from the dignity of work? >> i think you just put your finger on it to me the problem with the universal basic income is it addresses income but not the satisfaction work can bring. everybody wants to be part of a productive society we need to help people with the skills to work and support people in low wage work. i'd rather do that than do a universal basic income. >> chris's idea is different >> why not tie it to work? take the itc, i'm sure it's a policy that george w bush and many others have supported why not take the itc which is tied to work, make it monthly, make it flat, make it a more powerful an at the dote? the idea that you have to have a ubi or nothing, we can have a guaranteed income for working people. >> i am in total agreement with that i have argued we need an eitc, earned income tax expansion particularly for childless workers. in a society that b