you watched this kind of echo kma chamber and eco-system of communication. you make of a moment like this and how frequently things like this get replicated now. how does someone at home navigate truth when i went through fact check after fact check, the police chief and the mayor and the governor and again i was told, nope, you're wrong. >> the fact of the matter is, social media, whether it is facebook, twitter, x, whatever, it is not the real world. it is not reality. and so it provides an environment where specious claims like this could catch fire but they tend to be constrained to that platform. what we saw on tuesday was the fire wall between mainstream and reality in this extremely online eco-system break down. and they crossed over. and keep in mind, these social media platforms, well facebook has a billion plus years on a basis and x has much, much fewer. so what happened on tuesday night was the vast majority of people, there are 57 million i think viewers of the debate, the vast majority of them had never heard about this cats and dogs being barb

kamala harris will be that kma commander in chief and lead us forward in freedom, working with othersernor, i want to hit another -- i want to stick to -- governor, i want to stick to -- i want to stick to kamala harris here. on abortion, vice president harris did not make clear whether she supports any restrictions on abortion. currently nine states and the district of columbia have no gestational ban on abortions. your state of massachusetts has a ban on abortion after 24 weeks. your state drew a line. should she let people know where she stands, and draw some sort of line? >> she already did, martha. what she said is, let's go back to roe, which by the way, contrary to what donald trump says, nobody was asking to be overturned except for some segment. she's been clear, and i can tell you that because i myself, am a former prosecutor, former attorney general, very similar with abortion laws, and we both respect the right for people, first off, to make their own individual decisions about their body, and what they want to do. that's very important. women and families should have that