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means we will all tune in to knel netflix, and tune in.on biggs, suspect in a few days get some good emmy nominations. our special for tonight. thank you for watching. ♪ ♪ >> for more information on today's show, visit tavis smiley, at pbs.org. hi, i'm tavis smiley. join me for a conversation about ethics and politics. that's next time. and we'll see you then. >> rose: welcome to the program. >> i am kurt andersen, filling in for charlie rose who is on assignment. we begin this evening with a conversation about the middle east. i am joined at the table by jeffrey goldberg, national correspondent for the atlantic magazine. >> in is the thing about all middle east conflict, maybe all conflicts in general. is that, you know, once it goes can kinetic to borrow the pentan shorthand, once it goes lives and people are firing at each other, all plans go out the window. >> we continue with author chuck klosterman who talks about his latest book, "i wear the black hat, grappling with villains." >> as i was writing the essays and trying to see what i