general dempsey, and in an atlantic council forum earlier kniss month you said the consequence "gives us at framework to counter excessive claims by states seeking to illegally restrict movement of vessels and aircraft." i wonder if you can elabor ate a little on that and tell me before we've seen these excessive claims and how do they affect our ability to move around in our seas? >> if i could, senator, if we were here 20 years ago we would be involved in predicting that growing world population, the rise of regional powers like china and india, would place extraordinarily challenging demands foe roar sourcefor reso. here we are 20 years later, and it's playing out. so the reason i'm supportive of the convention on law of the sea, sb that it provides clarity on the definition of maritime zones. it provides clarity on navigational rights, and from that clampty comes stability, and as we now begin to rebalance our security interests into the pacific, this becomes very important. >> so do -- i appreciate that it's a sensitive topic to speak to some of those excessive claims, and senato