that's how i met mark knoller. if it's not in the records, it didn't happen. >> i wanted to make one final point before we conclude this panel which i wish i made a two-hour panel because i enjoy your story telling and the great advice. they are engaged about the standards that we are drafting. they understand that in the wake of last december's conversation, we came in with a few very small asks. i understand we were not on the same page with what we asked for. you have a flavor of it earlier. each of the formats has a conflict with how we want things. we have to work that out. we have to stand behind as a group. that will mean advocating for things that don't make a difference to you personally in your daily practice, but they do matter to the group. ironing out, for example, the difference between the photojournalists and the tv cameras is just the tip of the iceberg. that's why i want to bring one, if you are willing to come here on a saturday, i know you are willing to bring in more time. join me with the boar

mark knoller writes wendell goler and i go back to our days at ap radiop.e's a great reporter, friend and colleague. the white house press corps is poorer for his departure. major garpts at cbs, to those asking, @wendell goler has made it no, he is retiring effective today as ever he lives and exits on his own terms with modesty and with style. you are the man, wendell goler, that white house will miss you. we on the fox news deck will miss you. i'm happy for you. punta canna, you go. >> shepard, thank you so much. >> we'll look for you tonight on "special report." one of the great ones. i don't know how he keeps secrets, though. we're supposed to be journalists around here. what is wrong with you people? why didn't anybody know? no response. not unusual to get no response. the dow is doing crazy things today. that will be part of the rest of our coverage. can you believe we're close to 18,000. when they tell you everything is terrible, tell them no, it's not. ♪soft holiday music ]♪ can you help me up? [ snow intensifies ] [ sleighbells ring in the distance