in knox county, david, my lobsterman friend, if he is -- i think he is younger than 60, but if he were 60 and making $40,000 to keep the example the same, his premium would go from $4,080 to $10,590. more than double. mr. president, this just doesn't make sense to me. this whole discussion doesn't make sense to me. i agree that we need to talk about health care, and i agree that we need to do something about it, but we're doing the wrong thing. we're making it worse. there are two problems with health care in this country. you can boil it down to two issues -- cost and access. the affordable care act, although it dealt somewhat with costs, was mostly about access, allowing people who don't have health insurance to get it, whether through medicaid expansion or through the exchanges. cost is a bigger issue, and it's one that we also have to deal with, but that's not what's on the floor now or soon, and it's not what is being considered in congress, but i would argue we have really got to pay attention to that issue as well. so all of this, taking coverage away from my friend david or jen