>> commissioner knutzen: quick one. where generally are these -- what's the location for some of these, covia foundation for housing? >> san francisco towers i believe is one. there's one in santa rosa. i don't know about the other ones if the -- in the city. they might be able to tell you. i do remember san francisco towers though. >> thank you. i'm katie wade, director of social security call. in the city of covia -- >> commissioner knutzen: thank you. >> president serina: any other comments or questions? >> commissioner loo: i have a question regarding the evaluation project. in the first year, you give them the money in advance? >> yeah, they're going to be working with -- covia will be working with ucfs to to have the evaluation set up. will go through the next couple of years. >> president serina: any other comments or questions from the commission? any comments from the public? just for the record, i resided san francisco towers which is not one of the low income communities that covia supports. it's separate fro