commissioner knutzen here. spears here. also present, shireen mcspadden. we ask that you silence all cell phones. >> president serina: before proceeding to the agenda, i would like the newest commissioner, barbara sklar to give us a few words. >> i have a history in working with the elderly and with the disabled. including being a part of the group that started what is now the institute on aging. so i'm very familiar with in-home supportive services. i think the learning curve will be a little flatter for me, but give me a chance to learn what is going on now. in addition, i have a special needs granddaughter who is 11 years old and i have helped and assisted with. she is severely disabled. she is in a wheelchair, cochlear implants and uses an ipad to communicate. it's brought me into this age of disability, and i'm aware of the barriers. i'm looking forward to serving on the commission. >> president serina: thank you. honor to have you on our commission. i would like for approval of the february 5 agenda? motion? thank you. second, thank you. any comments

night of the murder knutzen interviewed them. >> my name's eric knutzen, by the way. >> i'm pamela. >m nervous or agitated? >> not nervous or agitated. just kind of unemotional. >> even at times cold toward the victim, roger's father. >> he's a cantankerous old fart and says his mouth to everybody. >> as they told their stories detectives started noticing subtle differences. >> and they had blue fuzzy gloves. they looked like women's driving gloves or something. fuzzy. >> i know they had purple gloves on. purple medical gloves. >> lot of details on which they didn't agree. so sergeant knutzen decided to employ a well-known police interview technique. he got tough, accusing. >> quite frankly i think the story's a bunch of crap. i think the story's a bunch of crap that you and roger have come up with. okay? >> does it sound too rehearsed or -- >> yeah. >> okay. >> i want them to say i had nothing to do with this, detective, you're crazy, i had nothing to do with this. that's what i wanted to hear. but it never came out. >> but listen to what did come out. >> is your husband capable of k

commissioner knutzen here. spears here. also present, shireen mcspadden. you silence all cell phones. >> president serina: before proceeding to the agenda, i would like the newest commissioner, barbara sklar to give us a few words. >> i have a history in working with the elderly and with the disabled. including being a part of the group that started what is now the institute on aging. so i'm very familiar with in-home supportive services. i think the learning curve will be a little flatter for me, but give me a chance to learn what is going on now. in addition, i have a special needs granddaughter who is 11 years old and i have helped and assisted with. she is severely disabled. she is in a wheelchair, cochlear implants and uses an ipad to communicate. it's brought me into this age of disability, and i'm aware of the barriers. i'm looking forward to serving on the commission. >> president serina: thank you. honor to have you on our commission. i would like for approval of the february 5 agenda? motion? thank you. second, thank you. any comments or question

commissioner knutzen here. spears here. also present, shireen mcspadden.ask that you silence all cell phones. >> president serina: before proceeding to the agenda, i would like the newest commissioner, barbara sklar to give us a few words. >> i have a history in working with the elderly and with the