so sergeant knutzen decided to employ a well-known police interview technique. he got tough, accusing. >> quite frankly, i think the story's a bunch of crap. i think the story's a bunch of crap that you and roger have come up with, okay? >> sorry you don't believe me. but -- >> i'm trying to. >> does it sound too rehearsed? or -- >> yeah. >> okay. >> i want them to say, i had nothing to do with this. you know? detective, you're crazy, i had nothing to do with this, that's what i wanted to hear. and it never came out. >> but listen to what did come out. >> is your husband capable of killing somebody? >> i wouldn't hope -- i mean, i wouldn't think he is. i wouldn't think that he's capable of killing his father. >> a search of roger and pam's home showed they appeared to be in financial trouble. detectives found collection notices and unsent mortgage coupons, suggesting at least that they were behind in their house payments. >> i know we're in a lot of debt. but we -- i, personally, would not have my father-in-law killed for his money. >> and yet, as roger told the

i am commissioner martha knutzen. this commission meeting is being conducted pursuant to the provisions of the bryant act and recent executive orders issued by the governor to facilitate teleconferencing to reduce the risk of covid-19 transmission at public meetingful ordinarily, the brown act has strict rules for teleconferencing. the governor's executive order has descended those rules. it requires that we continue to notice meetings in advance. the department has met all of the applicable notice requirements. as noted on the agenda, members of the public may observe this teleconference meeting via sfgov tv and may offer public comment by calling the published comment phone number. i'd like to welcome the members of the public and staff who are watching us live on sfgov tv. the commission asks and thanks you for your patience during these unprecedented times. conducting the meeting through teleconferencing has only happened once last month in our history. that being said, we hope the public has patience. we are work