i often talk about the koch brothers on the show and for good reason charles and david koch are the billionaire brothers who have gotten their financial tentacles and anything and everything that yields even the slightest bit of influence in this country and since the two thousand and ten citizens united decision that influence has grown ten fold corporations being granted free rein to a load of political campaigns it's a relationship that's been magnified in a new documentary called citizen koch which examines the overwhelming amount of money at play during wisconsin's political showdown last year take a look. at look at how with the wealthiest interest it will bring now a text there's no better place to look in the state level. is a way. for the green a billion dollars has been spent making this election the most expensive on record and the chance to ever do to be a completely red state you can really do to help. the koch brothers on a number of companies for five areas that specialize in some of the worst types of oil how much you can put into the chance and since january of last year and ju

the new women called "citizen koch" does just that. you no doubt recognize the name koch.is staggering to realize just how much influence these brothers possess over politicians, and over your life. take a look. >> this is an agenda that the less than 1% wants. >> lobbyists are not in my budget. >> this can't happen. this is wrong. >> they're just going to keep crushing the middle class crushing the poor people. >> don't the kochs own factories and oil. >> i'll take another question. >> listen to me, america. you're unimportant. they don't care about you. because you don't bring a check. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> if you never voted before, i bet you will now. >> john: so if you think the koch brothers are powerful in politics, there are a now even charge that they tried to limit the release of the film we're about to discuss. let's go to the filmmakers of "citizen koch." welcome to "viewpoint." it's a pleasure and honor to have you here. >> thank you so much. >> good to be here. >> john: good to have you. for people who don't know and just hear about the nebulous stories of koch br

the koch brothers number company of . the five areas are specialized and some of the worst types of oil how much you can put into a child and since january of last year in just over ten billion dollars ten billion dollars well the film went to sundance this year and i had planned to finish its production with the help from the independent television service where i had t.v.'s but it is unfortunate twist t.v.'s hold its funding from the project backlash from a major donor david koch so here to talk about her film the battle to get to the public airwaves is academy award nominated director to lessen thank you so much for coming on to us thank you so much for having me so why did you and co-director carl deal to believe decided to make this film. you know we wanted to look at the impact of money in politics and there was no better place to go than wisconsin in two thousand and eleven scott walker the governor of wisconsin had been bankrolled in part by david and charles koch and we were curious about what the impact of that

i often talk about the koch brothers on the show and for good reason charles and david koch are the billionaire brothers who have gotten their financial tentacles and anything and everything that yields even the slightest bit of influence in this country and since the two thousand and ten citizens united decision that influence has grown ten fold corporations being granted free rein to political campaigns it's a relationship that's been magnified in a new documentary called citizen koch which examines the overwhelming amount of money at play during wisconsin's political showdown last year take a look. look at how is the wealthiest interest it will bring and i want to there's no better place. you still look to the state level. on the way and. the green billion dollars has been spent making this election the most expensive on record. to be a completely red state you can really do to help. the koch brothers the number of companies the five areas that specialize in some of the worst types of oil how much you put into what johnson since january of last year just over ten million dollars ten billion

brothers a guy koch industries there. business in there and presumably the paper business to paper mills produce fact norma's a lot of pollution which is rather direct yeah it's it's rather startling tell me what they're doing with the universities well this is the part of the good news as we were able to find from the i.r.s. tax records for five years which is thousands thousands of pages eighty nine groups we were able to show or disclose find that two hundred twenty one universities have gotten money from the koch. koch foundations those five foundations i mention. what what exactly we have not we've done a mile wide and not much more than an inch deep we know that that's the case we know of a few cases that have already either been reported in florida state where the highly political everything had to be named after the koch brothers courses had to be designed about free markets and lack of regulation so i named it after the koch brothers doesn't seem political but but design it by force content and even my university

i often talk about the koch brothers on the show and for good reason charles and david koch are the billionaire brothers who have gotten their financial tentacles and anything and everything that yields even the slightest bit of influence in this country and since the two thousand and ten citizens united decision that influence has grown ten fold corporations being granted free rein to a load of political campaigns it's a relationship that's been magnified in a new documentary called citizen koch which examines the overwhelming amount of money at play during wisconsin's political showdown last year take a look. at look at how with the wealthiest interest it will bring out with text there's no better place to look than the state level. is a web. well the billion dollars has been spent making this election the most expensive on record it's rumored to be a completely run through the can we do to help. the koch brothers number of companies the five areas that specialize in some of the worst types of oil how much you can put into a chance and since january of last year just over ten million dollars

the two billionaire brothers who own koch industries so a few years ago the koch stayed out of the political spotlight but lately they've ramped up their spending efforts famously providing the financial backbone for much of what we call the tea party the cokes are just interested in buying up politicians now they're spreading their tentacles to colleges think tanks and nonprofits are also one of the top contenders to purchase the tribune company which owns some of the country's most important newspapers like the los angeles times and more on this i'm joined now by professor charles lewis executive director of the investigative reporting workshop at the american university school of communication professor lewis welcome thank you so what is it. first of all the project the investigative project on journalism could you tell us. a little bit about that sure . i've been a journalist for over thirty years doing investigative reporting on start a group called the center for public integrity which i ran for fifteen years after being at sixty minutes and the latest incarnation of this investigative

christianity in particular so why would any self described christian call himself an objectivist and charles koch thinks poor americans are living on the ritz they why is dead wrong and i'd still take. you need to know this kentucky senator rand paul you know the guy who question the wisdom of the civil rights act of one hundred sixty four when he first ran for office finds himself at the center of yet another race related controversy this week on tuesday the washington free beacon published an article titled rebel yell detailing the previous career paul's right hand man jack otter the co-author of the senator's first book all working as a radio you jockey shock jock in south carolina talk show host hunter appeared in public wearing a confederate flag mask openly called first session and even defended the assassination of abraham lincoln he called himself the southern avenger and was the chairman of the charleston wing of the league of the south a group which according to its own website quote advocates the secession and subsequent independence of the southern states from this forest union and th

important milestone to speak with move to a man's david about that milestone later on in the show and the koch brothers have a new plan to destroy our democracy and our planet i'll tell you what their plan isn't that i think daily to. need to know this zimmerman trial has people talking about race and racial conflict in american society in a way we haven't seen since the o.j. simpson trial almost twenty years ago that conversation is an important one it's time we did more than analyze news stories it's time to have a serious conversation about the long term legacies of the whole a cost of slavery and its fellow or fellow travelers poverty and racism sad truth is that in modern american society african-americans in particular the young male african-americans like trayvon martin are treated like criminals simply because of the color of their skin here's an example of how bad it has become during an appearance on c.n.n. this week le var burton you know the host of the reading rainbow talked about what it's like to be treated like a criminal by law enforcement and described how he avoids getting s

by the way the third koch brothers named bill bill koch has given a million dollars to create what ultimately became the hundred million dollar data trust database again these are private databases that know whether you've downloaded porn in the last two hours abbi so the they if you think the n.s.a. spying scandal something what about the koch brothers spying scandal they're allowed to do this where is it prohibited to our government to starvation and those lists to clean the lists and you know you probably i want to address something else really under that you said that this is a foundation for republican takeover in coming years however the democratic party as it stands is so pro-business so pro gwar it's hard for me to believe that this takeover is being engineered solely by republicans do you really think there's that much of a difference in the two parties. in both fifty yes remember it first of all jim crow used to be a democratic trick it was democrats stopping black people from voting fifty years ago now it's republicans and it's not because they dislike the color of black people ski

by the way the third koch brothers named bill bill koch has given a million dollars to create what ultimately became the hundred million dollar data trust database again these are private databases that know whether you've downloaded porn in the last two hours abbi so the they if you think the n.s.a. spying scandal something what about the koch brothers spying scandal they're allowed to do this where is it prohibited to our government to surveys and those lists to clean the lists and you know you probably i want to address something else really under that you said that this is a foundation for republican takeover in coming years however the democratic party as it stands is so pro-business so pro gwar it's hard for me to believe that this takeover is being engineered solely by republicans do you really think there's that much of a difference in the two parties. in both fifty yes remember of first of all jim crow used to be a democratic trick it was democrats stopping black people from voting fifty years ago and now it's republicans and it's not because they dislike the color of black people sk

by the way the third koch brothers named bill bill koch has given a million dollars to create what ultimately became the hundred million dollar data trust database again these are private databases that know whether you've downloaded porn in the last two hours abbi so the they if you think the n.s.a. spying scandal something what about the koch brothers spying scandal they're allowed to do this where is it prohibited to our government to survey those lists to clean the lists and you know you probably i want to address something else really under that you said that this is a foundation for republican takeover in coming years however the democratic party as it stands is so pro-business so pro-war it's hard for me to believe that this takeover has been engineered solely by republicans do you really think there's that much of a difference in the two parties. in both fifty yes remember the first of all jim crow used to be a democratic trick it was democrats stopping black people from voting fifty years ago and now it's republicans and it's not because they dislike the color of black people skin th

he idolizes ed koch, wants to be ed koch sort of for the 21st century. >> ed koch i imagine, i'm just guessing because i respect him as a public official, made certain sacrifices. he didn't live in gracie mansion. he lived quietly in an apartment. whatever he did alone or with someone else was his business and no one else's. that kind of restraint is not part of the package we're getting apparently from weiner. restraint. >> the other thing, at a human level, i think we can look at what happened before. two years ago and we can say this was sort of a human failing on his part. it was shocking, surprising, all of these things. but i look at that ambition i'm talking about. i haven't seen politicians are -- he's more amount bishs than anyone else i've covered. i thought after what he went through, that ambition would go override the other stuff. that's so shocking that it would keep happening >> we'll find out. leave open the possibility he's got something to tell us. i don't trust him. elied to luke russert and spinning and saying it may have happened afterward, some clever pr language

it's what's the koch brothers want. >> it's not just what them.ent medical reason for it. >> stephanie: anyway, it's stuff that you've been warning us about. let's get on to what. >> distopian stack of monkey pus also known as the ryan budget. >> stephanie: oh, this is why i love you mostest. you said that the tinhorns in the republican caucus sell to the american people that the sack of monkey pus known as the economic plan, the most by paul ryan, the granny starver from the state of wisconsin. right there is why charlie pierce is charlie pierce. >> it's a serious plan and they need support. >> not only that they're saying to the president you don't have to do it all at once. just do it piecemeal. who are these people when they're at home. >> then enact the monkey pus all at once or a little bit at a time otherwise they're going to. [ bleep ] with the debt ceiling again. it really--it is incredible because you talk about the ryan budget. they know it. it's nonsense. >> doesn't add up. every serious economist has looked at it and it's a complete v

plus, the tea party in georgia, is all for solar energy, and now they're going head to head with the koch brothers over it, this is reality trumping politics. i will have the national coordinator for the tea party patriots coming up. >>> we begin tonight with immigration reform on life support. and the surgeon in the e.r. trying to save the day is george w. bush. >> it's my honor to introduce the 43rd president of the united states of america. >> in the 1790s, an immigrant from ireland designed the white house. in the 1990s, 200 years later an immigrant from russia helped create the internet search engine google. >> former president george w. bush is front and center today, weighing in on immigration reform. >> that's something the former president has strictly avoided for years, talking about a hot political issue. >> i don't intend to get involved in the politics, i do hope there is a positive resolution to the debate. i hope during the debate we keep a benevolent spirit in mind. >> top republicans on capitol hill now predict comprehensive immigration reform will die a slow month's long

for example, billionaire industrialist and my future face twin charles koch in an interview with the wichita eagle, the cute koch said he wants to eliminate the minimum wage because it creates a culture of dependency and keeps people with limited capital from starting their own business. he is right. having to pay your employees really hurts small business. i mean, look at our nation's forefathers. many arrived with nothing but the blouse on their back but thanks to no minimum wage, they started a booming cotton industry. but just try explaining macro economics to the 10.4 million working poor. some of them actually think the minimum wage is too low especially the four million who work in fast food. jim? >> since early april, there have been protests by fast food workers in seven cities. >> we can't afford to live on what we make. >> a coalition of groups calling themselves d15 helped organize this protest and others at mcdonald's, burger king, dominoes and other top chains to demand $15 an hour instead of $7.40. >> stephen: $15 an hour? that would make the guy at fry station the ric

koch's idea of anolishing the minimum wage. >> it is ridiculous. if he wants to help poor people, he can give up some of his $31 billion. >> john: $43 billion. he and his brother are number four. the richest people in america. they can give up of some of the money. he can spread his wealth and make sure that everyone is eating. >> john: what's your take, dee dee. do you think abolish the minimum wage is a good idea? >> if you're going to do a good job, you're going to get paid well. i don't like the idea of a minimum wage. i think billionaires have no right to talk about this frankly. >> john: i think you're right. >> they have no idea what they're talking about. however, if you do a good job you'll get paid. >> i don't agree with you. >> john: lots of poor folks who do great jobs but still get paid crap. >> go to another job. >> john: scottie, how do you feel about the idea of a minimum wage? >> i think it completely needs to be an be olished. especially in the economy today. people are sitting here -- they're actually working hard to make sure sm

the "new yorker," you suspect the koch brothers big footed pbs.on the board, if i'm not mistaken, and the funding dried up -- >> david koch sits on two boards at pbs and was zang lg a big donation. because of that, the agency that cure rates and funds films like ours pulled their port. >> then you're screwed. >> we were screwed then we went to kick starter. we lost out not only on our funding but public television audience. >> you went to kickstarter and did that work. >> it was cool. in the aftermath of jane mayer's article in may, we hadde dozensf e-mails coming in from strangers. people kept saying, where can i give to kickstarter? where can i give to kickstarter? it felt really appropriate. here is a case where you have a public agency controlling the public airwaves cayiving to the influence of a private donor. >> to get the public to fund it. >> absolutely. >> did you get it funded? >> we're on day 13. >> right now it's up. >> it's up right now. we have 13 days left in our campaign. we're about $25,000 short of the $150,000 -- >> you hear th

how can we fight back against the money that the koch brothers, sheldon adelson etc.l, it's a little simpler than you think. it's one step at a time. i'm going to bring on two guys who will tell you how we've done that in texas and new york. they're part of a group called wolf pac. i founded wolf pac. i don't run it day-to-day but i did. the reason why i did is because i think we can take back our democracy. we're in different places, and texas of all places we had one of our first victories. in january of this year there was a rally called texans united to amend to get money out of the politician. two people you're going to hear speaking is. >> goldman sachs and the koch brothers is the problem. for others, it doesn't matter whether the money comes from a source you agree with or not corruption is corruption. this is not just a right or left wing movement. if you look back at history barry goldwater said we cannot continue to allow corporations spending unlimited amounts of money. and it was eisenhower who said beware. this is a long-term for us and it's the left and

howard. >> a few of them looked frightened perhaps. >> by that performance. >> i knew ed koch.e wasn't a friend of mine necessarily but i knew him. >> he was restrained compared to this guy. >> not only that, ed koch would love to fight on ideas. he loved to take people on. he loved to engage people. but i think people sort of found him to be a kind of profoundly normal person. i mean, he was just a guy. he was your average new yorker who somehow became mayor. that's not an average guy that we just saw right there. i don't know what he is. but average he ain't. >> get into the campaign. i was asked before my old show, i always ask maggie tell me something i don't know. what's the smell of the campaign when you get in close? the people you talk to? i mean literally the smell. is it burning, dying, is it rotting? >> it is like. >> is there something going on there. >> it's like being at the carnival. it's not like there is something that you're seeing behind the curtain that you're not seeing up front here. there is not much of a staff. anthony weiner is notorious for running his

new anti-obamacare ad began airing today courtesy of the americans for prosperity benefactors, the koch brothers. it's smart pull at the heart springs featuring a young mom with a sick kid raising dubious claims about the affordable care act. >> i had questions about obamacare. if we can't pick our own doctor how do i know that my family will get the care we need, and what am i getting for higher premiums and a smaller paycheck. i think we deserve answers. >> john: if your insurance company raises your premiums be ready to blame president obama and not your insurance. let's bring in our friends the great michael tomasky welcome back to "viewpoint." >> always a pleasure. >> john: great to have you. michael, you wrote a great piece about this ad. while misleading there is nothing in the law that says you can't choose your own doctor, and underscores the fact that many americans are unfamiliar with the main aspects of this law. whose fault is that? >> gee is that really obama's fault? the administration's fault? misinformation campaigns are rife and the fact that a lie can get way halfway

and you may have heard about the controversy surrounding the koch brothers documentary "citizen koch.

and i'm denise koch. here's what people are talking about tonight. >> reporter: updating the breaking news after four men are shot in west baltimore. wjz is live on the scene. rochelle ritchie with new information from police. rochelle? >> reporter: well, hi, vic. we are just return -- learning that this shooting happened just about a mile away from where mayor stephanie rawlings- blake participated at a peace walk just last night. baltimore city very frustrated with the shootings. police say just as one shooting happened, another life is left on the line. >>> chaos erupts in west baltimore after four men are shot. >> we are comparing this immediately to other crimes in this general area. as it relates to crimes that occurred. >> reporter: the violence upsetting for residents. kirk was living in a danger zone. >> i think it's sad because you can't have your kids sitting out front or anything. you'll know if they're going to come or shoot. >> just before 3:00, baltimore city police say the four guys were s

well, since then, there has been a bit of a koch-up in his campaign. >> two years after a tawdry sex sting scandal chased him from congress, anthony weiner is begging for forgiveness again. turns out he continued sending lewd messages and photos to at least one woman even after he was forcedded to resign from congress. >> john: he did it again? why did he even need to do that? who did he think had possibly not seen his photo from last time? did he think that a woman might have been in a coma during the first go-round? and needed to be dropped in. so two years ago this photo caused a scandal that cost him his political career. and just as his political career was being resurrectd, this new photo... deal with it. you just saw that. you cannot unsee what you just saw. now, america is collectively experiencing deja-ewwwwww. although this time there are some awesome developments. and here is the most incredible one. >> new allegations that he kept on sext-ing under the alias carlos danger. (laughing). >> john: yes. you heard right. he calls himself carlos danger. anthony weiner alter ego

that was obviously a planted call, probably paid for by the koch brothers.ps the reality is the controlling power center is the koch brothers as tom hartman has taken to calling them, the koch brothers or what i like to call them is the crotch brothers because in the crotch is where they are kicking us to keep us all down. >> stephanie: i prefer koch bothers. any way, he is right. john fugelsang joining us next hour on the "stephanie miller show." ♪ ♪ >> stephanie: all right. hour number three, everybody. john fugelsang coming up in the new york bureau. jacki schechner i apologize, everybody is caught in the cross fire this morning. >> no i think she thinks i look like a horse, because i have all of my teeth. [♪ circus music ♪] >> stephanie: snap! >> you know what! >> stephanie: take that road flair. >> and they are white. yeah, i'm just saying. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: all right. >> wow. >> stephanie: nicely done. >> well played madam. >> stephanie: she is pretty but she can cut a bitch. >> i'm small by scrappy. >> stephanie: yes, with finely toned legs f

and those, like the koch brothers, who are lying, will be shown to be losers.ry hospital trustee in texas has to be upset with rick perry because those hospitals are taking it on the chin because they have to deliver uncompensated care when they wu wouldn't have had to if they had made the right decision. >> thank you so much to howard dean and senator byron dorgan. >>> next, only m america is president ae obama's story possible, or your story, or my story. that's coming up. ♪ forever young ♪ i want to be forever young [ male announcer ] we don't just wear clothes, we live life in them. ♪ and ever ♪ forever young ♪ i want to be forever young [ male announcer ] keep clothes newer 50% longer with downy softness. [ male announcer ] keep clothes newer 50% longer "stubborn love" by the lumineers did you i did. email? so what did you think of the house? did you see the school ratings? oh, you're right. hey babe, i got to go. bye daddy! have a good day at school, ok? ...but what about when my parents visit? ok. i just love this one... and it's next to a park. i love i

christianity in particular so why would any self described christian call himself an objectivist and charles koch thinks poor americans are living on the ritz why he's dead wrong in tonight's.

i got my payment from upon mobile and the koch brothers, i'm going to keep pumping that car bob into air. >> every year it gets worse. the question is, is anything ever going to be done. if we do something at this point, it's already too late. we're experience be some of our bat behavior from decades ago today. if we put a stop to all of it, which by the way is never going to happen, we're still going to feel the ramifications. >> it's too late to correct what was wrong but may not be too late to mitigate. speaking to what you said, we have a mash up, this is b7, of fox news correspondent talking specifically to that point. >> fox news alert, president obama choosing today to go to georgetown university and layout a controversial new plan for the environment. >> president obama will announce plans for climate change today and its impact expected to be felt across several industries, costing hundreds of thousands of jobs. >> people who believe in global warming and have been warning about it, it's a fact and it's man made causes may not have the evidence they told the american people

imagine if the koch brothers sent a letter to president obama that we are for obama care now.pletely being ignored. >> did it get the coverage you expected? >> yes. not any. i -- this coudeserves coverage. most will get sorted out in the long run, lot of problems with medicare when it was implemented and lot of people upbeat it. now people love medicare. it is still a story now. it is not just republicans that are criticizing it. have you obama's own people talking about it and should be covered. >> when the president, you know -- hears the bad news about the unions not supporting the program, that they used to support, then it comes out into the east room and makes that statement as he will try on sell it again. >> well, that may not do a lot, persuade the undecide. >> media love it. >> yeah, the media love it. this is part of how we came to -- obama care came to pass. the fact of the matter is this is a terribly difficult issue that's very hard to write about and write about well. therefore, reporters don't do it because you have to know a lot. this is a political story whic

imagine if the koch brothers said we support the obamacare act now.edia would go crazy with stories. it's completely being ignored. >> jon: did it get the coverage you expected? >> yeah, exactly. not any. [ laughter ] >> it deserved coverage, absolutely. the approximate with obamacare deserve coverage. i happen to be of the opinion in the long run there were lot of problems. medicaid was implemented and lots of people love medicaid but it's still a story, not just republicans that are characterizing it. you have obama's own people talking about it and it should be covered. >> jon: when you hear the bad news about people of the unions not supporting the program and he makes that statement as if he is going to try to sell it again. >> that may do a lot to super persuade people. this is part of how obamacare came to pass. the fact of the matter is, this is terribly difficult issue. it's very hard to write about and write about well. therefore, reporters don't do it because we have to know a lot. this is a political story which is one reason i'm kind of s

well, since then, there has been a bit of a koch-up in his campaign. >> two years after a tawdry sex sting scandal chased him from congress, anthony weiner is begging for forgiveness again. turns out he continued sending lewd messages and photos to at least one woman even after he was forcedded to resign from congress. >> john: he did it again? why did he even need to do that? who did he think had possibly not seen his photo from last time? did he think that a woman might have been in a coma during the first go-round? and needed to be dropped in. so two years ago this photo caused a scandal that cost him his political career. and just as his political career was being resurrectd, this new photo... deal with it. you just saw that. you cannot unsee what you just saw. now, america is collectively experiencing deja-ewwwwww. although this time there are some awesome developments. and here is the most incredible one. >> new allegations that he kept on sext-ing under the alias carlos danger. (laughing). >> john: yes. you heard right. he calls himself carlos danger. anthony weiner alter ego

. >> you talk about the importance of having the counterparts to koch in and do interslews -- interviews with the pilot. was a language barrier a problem in this crash and the number 2 question. where were the 2 girls sitting who dieded in the crash? >> there are 2 questions. the first question is has language be a barrier in this accident or this accident investigation. the pilots speak korean. english is the universal language in aviation. everyone is expected to be able to be proficient enough in english to communicate with air traffic control and any country in the world and so we are certainly going to be looking to see if there was any miscommunication or misinformation that was provided but we don't have any information at this point that that was an issue. it has not providedded a barrier to our investigative activities. as i mentioned, we have excellent cooperation from our colleagues around the world and i have to tell you there are a lot of airplanes that crash in other countries that the ntsb goes to investigate with our counterparts. we have investigated events involving u.s

you need to know this the koch brothers and their buddies at the american legislative exchange council are coming for your kids elementary school a new report from the center for media democracies p.r. watch says that the american legislative exchange council the conservative lobbying group more commonly known as alec has ramped up its campaign to corporate ties our public schools during the first half of this year since january conservative lawmakers across the country have attached to their state's budget bills one hundred thirty nine different alec drafted education proposals thirty one of those proposals have been signed into law disguised with pleasant sounding names like the virtual schools act and the special needs scholar. shit backed these proposals chip away at the most fundamental of american rights the right to free ineffective education all under the guise of buzz words like parental choice the aforementioned special needs scholarship act for example gives money to families of students with learning disabilities so that their kid's going to roll in local for profit somebod

i mean compare weaner to jewel annie or bloomberg or -- giuliani or bloomberg or ed koch.e's not someone who should be representing our great city out there. if you're like the mayor, you're not just ruling the city, you're also going out around the world and talking to other mayors. you're a representative of the city. this is not the representative who won. it's one scandal. he just never stopped. >> he continued, right? it was over a year when he resigned from congress and then this just kept going on after that. were you surprised that his wife stood by him in that news conference? >> i'm not surprised about anything. >> it's politics. >> maybe they have some sort of agreement or it doesn't seem like what she is saying is genuine when she talks. >> you think they're too far in it that they can't pull back now? >> she is a disciple and she goes to the school stand by your man. i don't want him as my mayor and i want him off the television. >> so even though it's the talk of the town, you don't want to talk about it anymore? >> the bottom line is he shouldn't be our mayo

i'm denise koch. here's what people are talking about tonight.n inexperienced pilot at the controls of that asiana airlines flight when it crash landed on to the runway. tonight we have learned the plane was flying way too slow and way too low just before the deadly crash. marley hall is in san francisco with new information for wjz. >> reporter: the charred few fuselage remains off the runway. the jet crashed landed on saturday. the plane's trail struck a seawall separating the runway from san francisco bay. >> the lower portion of the tail cone is in the rocks at the seawall and there was a significant piece of the tail of this aircraft in the water. >> reporter: the ntsb says the plane was flying 40 miles per hour slower than this plane does upon landing. passengers say the plane was lower as well. >> i don't see runway, i just see water. i'm realizing, we're way too low. >> reporter: seven seconds before impact, a member of the flight crew called for increased speed. three seconds later the flight controls began to shake, a signal the plane w