we have asked both of the koch brothers and the kansas branch of americans for prosperity to come on show. they have declined. the koch industries did send us a statement from philip eleneder, president and coo of koch company's public sector. koch has consistently opposed all subsidies and mandates across the country especially as it relates to energy policy. this is demonstrated in our long standing opposition to such misguided policies as renewable fuel standard. government should not mandate the allocation of wind resources in raw materials and goods. an expansion increases the government's control over the means of production. history shows the free market driven by consumer choice and the type of energy they use is a far better way to allocate resources. we'll continue our look at how the state of kansas has now turned into a laboratory for conservative policy when we come back. including exactly what the current governor has done to teachers and how it could backfire on his 2014 re-election chances. >>> plus, the story of a small town which thanks to budget cuts, lost its very

. >> koch brothers. koch brothers. of mary barra. mary barra. koch brothers. koch brothers. mary barra. koch brothers. koch brothers. koch brothers are coming after you. pening bl. and the rush i get, lasts way more than an hour. (announcer) at scottrade, we share your passion for trading. that's why we've built powerful technology to alert you to your next opportunity. because at scottrade, our passion is to power yours. they're the days to take care of business.. when possibilities become reality. with centurylink as your trusted partner, our visionary cloud infrastructure and global broadband network free you to focus on what matters. with custom communications solutions and responsive, dedicated support, we constantly evolve to meet your needs. every day of the week. centurylink® your link to what's next. if it. neil: this issue's rare but it is up big deal of patriots fighting against harry reid for of lawfully and unethical a targeting private citizens although rich the koch brothers how does he respond? of bothers me most is the koch brothers or corporations get a gre

. >> the book is about the four koch brothers. a lot of people associate the koch brothers. frederick koch is the oldest and this is really the tale of a historic industrial dynasty. they have a fascinating business story. they have a really riveting family story as well. >> what got you interested in it? >> i thought in the 2010, 2011 time frame you see charles koch a caricature of who these guys were. and once i started to peel back the layers of that a little bit look into their family background i said, wow, this is a really politics may be that's the least interesting thing about this family. in my mind i see them in the mold of the rockefellers and the carnegies in the sense that their legacy will extend in so many ways beyond our lifetime. >> or they all alive? >> yes. >> i want to show the cover of the book and ask you a little bit about each one of the four. as we look at the book cover we see fred who is 80-year-old born august 6, 1933. what you can say? >> he was the eldest and not interested in the family business. he has been a patron of the arts and he spent a

. >> koch brothers. koch brothers. of mary barra. mary barra. koch brothers. koch brothers.ry barra. koch brothers. if it. neil: this issue's rare but it is up big deal of patriots fighting against harry reid for of lawfully and unethical a targeting private citizens although rich the koch brothers how does he respond? of bothers me most is the koch brothers or corporations get a greater voice in government and american voters. tape party patriots but i guess the best defense? guns are pleasing? >> i think he is entitled to his opinion i believe in the first amendment that harry reid tries to amend but he does not have the right to use our tax dollars. because they happe to apollo's whose philosophy and has of the repeated the as a coordinated campaign with seven democrats up for reelection and they all say the same thing he goes to the senate floor to use his official office said website to attack the political campaign with our tax campaign with our tax dollarslh you, my friend are a master of diversification. who would have thought three cheese lasagna would go with choco

i'm most every day on hearing one of the koch brothers funded groups of americans for prosperity. and enterprises oh my gosh they're so at first for their advertising on the radio not advertising they get the they get the most guests they're actually corsi put on as if they had something to say that wasn't just you know they were fronting for the billionaires well you know what i know you pooed that the voters in virginia where i am a resident but not in the seventh district actually care about the issues and the stances of their elected officials but obviously this was a case where eric cantor had not been doing what he needed to be doing in his district and the voters decided to send a message and say you know what this college professor is a he's got great ideas you know it's not like eric cantor was a liberal because he wasn't but he just wasn't paying attention to his district and he wasn't doing what he was supposed to be doing and they said this morning he was in the district once a week he was in the district every single week for the was two years well the single week sur

the koch brothers have been funneling millions of dollars into election, often in secret.et congress regulate this so-called dark money. >> the republicans act like it's the end of the world. >> this amendment today if adopted would relegal the free speech protections of the first amendment. citizens are still astonished, that members of congress would dare vote for repealing the first amendment. mr. chairman, when did elected democrats abandon the bill of rights. this amendment if adopted would give congress the power to ban books and to ban movies. >> repealing the first amendment? abandoning the bill of rights? what's he talking about? the gop's argument makes no sense. unless you buy the idea that money is the same as free speech. which means that people like the koch brothers simply have more speech than the rest of us. it's not fair and a new film looks at what it's doing to our democracy. joining me now are the filmmakers behind "citizen koch." thank you both for being here tonight. the influence of the koch-backed group, americans for prosperity, now here's a clip

to the right wing talking machine political further noted that the koch brothers backed americans for prosperity paid at least seven hundred fifty seven thousand dollars primarily to sponsor mark levin's radio show sponsorship that covered part of the two thousand and twelve cycle so the koch brothers gave over seven hundred thousand dollars to mark levin same man who promoted dave brat the koch brothers funded college professor for months and while specific numbers aren't known about ingram she's also subsidized by the koch brothers according to politico which could help explain her eagerness to slam eric cantor and promote brat this is not to allege any sort of corruption on the part of lubin or ingram supported somebody with money who you already supports politicians you support is just good political investing and doing it under the radar is particularly useful when harry reid is calling you out on the floor of the senate as he has been doing to the koch brothers bottom line here is david brat didn't beat eric cantor because cantor's campaign was poor because of his immigration st

the co why did the koch brothers are so adamant about unseating democrats and keeping the republicans in because obama disappointed the former j.p. morgan managing director of a government agency tasked with monitoring trade it just seems like democrats are part of the problem but you might think so but. it's not to the same degree as the republican party and so when we talk about corporate interests. i assure you that republicans and the cokes are for deregulation much more than democrats and obama well there are certainly you know when people ask me who you know why don't you ever call it george soros and stuff i'm always just like i don't really see anyone on the level of the koch brothers on the left and of course i don't really know of anyone who is like a massively into. actions on this way to coax like to point fingers back at tom sire the environmentalist billionaire that's committed to putting one hundred million dollars into environmental initiatives at the difference between a tom styer and the koch brothers are that he's not you know backing up huge corporate interests in

party like a coked up party especially want to a swanky orange county resort so what were the koch brothers and a handful of republican lawmakers and a bunch of secretive billionaires doing. together at the st regis monarch a resort in california last week. you need to know this the caucus room conspiracy is alive and well right here in the nation's capitol earlier this afternoon house republicans voted in majority whip kevin cantor kevin mccarthy excuse me as the new majority leader he was the favorite to succeed outgoing majority leader eric cantor and easily beat his only challenger. congressman and tea party favorite raul labrador the beltway media will of course say that this is a victory for the g.o.p. establishment and they're right but there's another element of mccarthy's election as majority leader that the d.c. media probably won't be telling you about and that's his part in the conspiracy to take down the obama administration the obama presidency and what that says about how he'll flex his muscle as eric cantor's replacement on january twentieth two thousand and eight when the o

yes exactly pretty disturbing what are some other specific issues that the koch brothers are really focused on combating here so health care is a major issue for them always. they had a discussion from c.v.a. which is concerned veterans for america that ties into their health care strategy because they see concerned veterans at america playing a role in exposing government run health care you know the problems at the v.a. so they kind of prop up these groups and funding them and they appear like really really professional groups that are pretty much astroturf and then as soon as a political crisis or up on the hill they kind of swing in with their p.r. campaign and use it and force their stuff exactly you know they're exposing these problems at the v.a. but these problems have been in existence for a long time and what you see time and time again is republicans undermining these agencies in order to create a crisis so. you write the article that part of the mission was to quote raise five hundred million dollars to take the senate into the two thousand and fourteen midterms and another five

of course there are four koch brothers.n i was researching this book, the political part of their story is almost the least interesting part of it. these brothers duked it out over control of the family company. one of them, what's got to be one of the most bare-knuckled brawl, legal brawls in history, and the interesting part about it is that when their dad died in 1967, bequeathing the family fortune to his son, charles koch finds a letter after his death and it says, you know, be kind and generous to each other, and this money can be a blessing or a curse. it ends up being both because their inheritance ends up fueling this nasty, nasty legal war between the brothers. >> jon: but it's almost... you read about their childhood and the way the father... it's a different era, but there was almost like a darwinian ethos in the family, like the dad was like, who amongst you will be strongest? follow me. like it's not surprising that they duke it out after his death because while he was alive, they duked it out, as well. >> the

evolving door is nothing new in the koch brothers have mastered manipulation of the system and factories business moguls strategize by propping up think tanks and front groups to promote their deregulatory agenda across the country which brings me to their latest summit that took place a few weeks ago to crack the case on the coke floor in windsor executive producer of the under current on the young turks network when an exclusive inside source of the secret of summit warren thanks for coming on thanks so where was the summit held and who was in attendance so this is it dana point resort st regis monarch bay in orange county california so this is not exactly a bastion of you know democratic ideals that is very republican very big money and the people that were in attendance of note would be people like mitch mcconnell marco rubio jim jordan and cory gardner tom cotton all people that are running rubio potentially for president in sixty and why really quickly why should people care about the koch brothers or any of these guys gathering together. people should care because i mean this is a

people on twitter get riled up about the koch brothers.derstand this back fires. it's driven more money under ground and have the koch brothers raising more money. >> voters don't care. >> if they did care, barack obama would have caught a lot of guff for breaking his promise in 2008 and destroying the public finance system. >> he talked about when he came back to the u.s. after his accident, first thing he saw when he was brought into the incredible hospital was koch brothers had funded it. he went through a list of all the incredible things he had done for this country. >> did he? lawrence o'donnell did? >> yes. >> they have done extraordinary thin things. >> willie geist is talking about aah what they've done for medical research, the arts, for lincoln center, for this city is unbelievable. you say i disagree with them and they're spending lots of money. >> it's convoluted. >> if we can just see the look. >> i want to see the split screen. >> joe, your hair is crazier. >> i think i have more lift. >> you can get that up higher. there yo

it is the koch brothers. the big donors in the country who are on their side of the aisle and it is every republican politician who can get an invitation to this thing, which makes me wonder how much influence do the koch brothers really have over the modern political landscape in america? >> they have quite a bit. it's arguable that the rise of the tea party and more than the rise of the tea party the tea party's focus on economic issues, at the time when the tea party arose it was sort of this amorphous protest movement. it wasn't really clear that they had a single issue. the group of the koch brothers, americans for prosperity as well as a few other big money big donor funded groups were able to harness the power of the tea party and make it sort of an economic, conservative movement. we still see the effect of that today in mississippi with the tea party challenge. i mean, these tea party activists, they're real. it's not like they're astroturf. they wouldn't have been able to have the same level of impa

a very critical documentary featuring the koch brothers aired on pbs and david koch, who has donatedupset. according to reporting done by the new yorker's jane mayer, all of a sudden the film's title was now, quote, exto in order fairly problematic. and a year later, they were told itvs was pulling the plug on the project. even public television, it seemed, was trying not to sfend the koch brothers. this week, the movie they didn't want you to see about the demise of our democracy, is finally out. >> i am a republican. what i voted for is not what i got into the people like the koch brothers have purchased the republican matter. >> it's not my party any more. >> if it wasn't for the union i couldn't have eare tired. >> unions are the only competition republicans have. >> the unions, without that, it's over. >> aren't they happy just being millionaires? do they'll really have to be gazilli gazillion heirs. >> listen america, they don't care about you because you don't bring a check. >> joining me now there codirectors of "citizen koch." , thank you for coming. >> thanks for having me.

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i destroyed that guy from the koch brothers group. i destroy any credibility that that politician might still think he has. destroy! destroy. i'm godzilla in a cheap blazer and the same haircut since 2007. i destroy. whenever i am said to have destroyed something i realize this is actually high praise, and i am appreciative. one of the important things i think you have to do in delivering the news and explaining the news and trying to increase the amount of useful information in the world is that i do think you sometimes have to point out when something dumb is going on or something hurtful or when people are not actually doing what they said they are doing. destroy.

whether it's koch brothers or unknown billionaires, they funnel in money to keep scott walker there. there are supposed to be rules that prevent it from being too close to the campaign. it really doesn't matter. whether there was coordination or not might violate the law. the system remains crooked. >> he was in the fight of his life and he needed money. >> we need to know -- the voters need to know who owns you or who you owe. that's why republicans say, we are for transparency but not when it comes to dark the money groups like americans for prosperity or the club for growth. >> senator, how does this get pressed forward? will your caucus do anything? >> we will continue to press the issue. when you get done, we want wisconsinites to know -- frankly the wisconsin way of transparency and integrity in our process is under question. at least the dark shadow thats has been over our governor and his interaction with what he thought was koch brothers or now the interaction via e-mail with karl rove influencing the elections and allowing outsiders to be engaged instead of the voices of th

koch industries. it was being run by charles and david. fred was part of the company. the eldest brotherso take over over a variety of concerns. this led to protracted litigation. charles koch -- who we just shall -- we had wrote anharles koch op-ed and he said far from trying to rig the system i have spent decades opposing cronyism and all illegal favors including mandates, subsidies, and protective tariffs." you wonder why, why would he speak out now, and is part of the reason is they are finding a hard time doing business given this view of them? >> i think you see senator harry reid on the senate floor denouncing the koch brothers as un-american and a lot of senate democrats are effectively running against the koch brothers in the midterm elections. this might be having an effect, the meme that they are evil, out to line their pockets. this might impact their ability to recruit talent to the company. that might be behind this ad campaign. >> not a lot of people know about koch industries. >> and they prefer to keep it that way for many years. >> that is right, but now they are going o

good morning. >> i would like to ask why he's bringing up the koch brothers all the time. warren buffett donated 5.9. he donated a $2.6 billion. if you look up george soros i think that you are going to find out he has 193 tactics in the companies he needs to funnel money down into and what about the big climate control very strong. how much has he donated? >> host: tom is the sort of increasingly prominent democratic donor who is spending his money in a way that is an effort to back the candidates to support climate change legislation. but the caller makes a good point. there certainly ar are a lot of very wealthy at liberal donors and they getting a lot of attention. in my book warren buffett is not among them. i'm not sure but the figures you cite that he hasn't been a major player in even more generally i would say that there are a whole class of very wealthy liberals who do not give as much money as a percentage of their income into politics as do the very wealthy conservatives like the koch brothers. you could look and say sheldon hamilton is worth $40 billion why do

we did reach out to the koch brothers and their organization americans for prosperity for their commentsear back. thank you for being here. i got a chance to check out "citizen koch" your new film. why did you make the film? >> well, we were interested in the impact of citizens united and what we saw on the ground in wisconsin was really clear, super enfranchising the wealthiest and corporate interests, disenfranchising poor people and that is what citizens united has wrought. >> one of the most fascinating characters in the film is this guy who is a sort of republican, union guy, and he talks about sort of the impact that scott walker who is a big recipient of koch donations let's just say even though his spokesman didn't want to talk about it, let's listen to this clip of a person talking about a republican for the recall of scott walker. >> a lot of people say, gee. you're a republican. how can you recall a republican? it's like, governor walker is a tea partier. tea party and republicans are not the same thing. and i personally do not espouse the tea party principles of cutting gover

art pope and the koch brothers paid to roll back civil rights advances. a got easier for rich people to pour money into elections. donors got new opportunities to write bigger checks to candidates and they got more ways to avoid any kind of disclosures in any public financing system. including one that provided for clean judicial races. that was painful to me because i watched one of our supreme court justices, robin hudson, attacked in the most despicable way. more than $650,000 came from a washington-based organization trying to protect the anti-voter laws that were pushed through to legislature. i cannot think of a more vicious cycle than taking a little more power from the voters and handing it to the big spenders. once big money got into our elections, that is what happened. public service is a calling. we are called to use our gifts to create laws and to administer our cities, states, and nations. citizens united in the supreme court decision that have occurred have made this a mockery. it does not look like democracy. a mocker see is when the gover

the koch brothers support a lot.with tax on the explanation saying selling our soul to the devil did sounds crazy but it is not an isolated case. the intolerance of the left is one thhng, but to tell someone not to take $25 million to help so many black kids blows my mind. >> everybody is so sick of the whining and the b.s. out of the left and the right. stop, push this country forward because we are not going anywhere. don't even ask where it came from. >> why are they against this? charles: they hate the koch brothers because of the conservative ideas. >> they could vote for a republican, is that what they're trying to to put together? speak out i think the koch brothers are representing an idealist that is not necessarily for young black students and they think giving them the money is going against that basically be at charles: it is a lot harder to portray someone as evil when they just handed you a check. >> whether or not you like them or not this will disadvantage students and historically black colleges. cha

if this hearing -- if the vote goes bad for the koch brothers on this, we'll start hearing democratsgrowth and go after people like oddly enough mary landrieu, who is pro-oil but in an oil state where she can easily be defeated if this simple argument is put out properly. >> i think mary landrieu has an argument right now to tell her constituents, they don't have the permits. i don't know why democrats are putting pressure on harry reid to bring it to the floor when it legally can't be built in the first place. anthony, what about that? >> i think that's a really critical point. we have a process for val u ating these projects to ensure they are not built if they are not in the national interest. keystone xl is being evaluated under that process. it's important that it be allowed to continue. and it would set an enormously poor precedent to allow congress to become a permitting body for pet projects like keystone xl. >> so pap, what is the president doing here, taking his time and let the legal beagles work things out and then make a decision? tonight i believe he speaks at the leagu

the steyer brothers have been compared to another set of politically-minded siblings, the koch brotherso have spent millions backing tea party candidates and conservative products. >> i don't actually know the koch brothers. >> i didn't think you would. >> i definitely think there has to be differences in the sense that those guys are doing something that is consistent with their self-interests. and -- >> when you say "self-interests" what do you mean? >> they are basically pushing stuff very good for private enterprise and specifically oil refiners. very consistently, very aggressively, and sometimes very intelligently. i see that as we are on very different trajectory in terms of how we think about it, who we think we're representing, and what we're trying to accomplish. >> but steyer does have an agenda, one that leans to the left. he spoke at the democratic convention in 2012. >> big things are happening. thanks to president obama, america is laying the foundation for the way we power tomorrow. >> he and his wife have given more than $11 million to super pac's he founded, and they h

because harry reid can go on the senate floor and call the koch brothers -- it's amazing he went on to have a pretty good career and sell a lot of books, make a lot of money. tucker meat with him personally. >> he's one of the creepiest people i've ever met. there's something furtive and weird about him and kind of wet and oily and just disgusting and i mean that with total sincerity. during one of presidential debates in '08, president obama says i'm friends with bill ayers, i'm also friend with -- friends with coburn. >> why don't we go back to the fdr chicken debate? the guy met him one time. this guy is 45 year ago, he may have bombed a few things, may not have. >> may have bombed a few things? >> other people may have been involved in the stuff. the point is you guys were not around then during that war. it was a despicable horrible war. it took some radical action to stop it. >> they were rooting for the other side. they were -- >> john wayne gacy was secretive about his serial killings. to tucker's point there is something very creepy about someone who repeatedly bombs locations

and i'm referring to the koch brothers. t their twice yearly secret donor retreat, charles and david koch raised millions, millions, hundreds of millions of dollars. they then used it to pursue their radical agenda, and it is radical. this year's conference was especially important to the koch brothers as they coordinate efforts to spend hundreds of millions of dollars dictating this year's elections. but why cloak their message in secrecy? in his op-ed in "the wall street journal," charles koch invited his critics to -- quote -- try to understand my vision for a free society. it's easy to understand. look at the libertarian run he had for vice president in 1982. they laid out what they wanted to do -- privatize social security and do away with -- just basically do away with government. so his critics -- quote -- try to understand my vision for a free society, that's pretty easy to do. how could we possibly understand the kochs' vision, though, when they and their loyal followers try to do everything in secrecy and they hide

on the flip side you have the koch brothers, who have been on the other side. it is called the sons of wichita. one of the points he was making in this book is sort of the character access the nation -- character assassination that has hit their business. it has made it harder for them to hire people. i want to play a part of what the author said yesterday. >> you see harry reid on the senate floor denouncing the koch brothers. don'tof senate democrats affect against the koch brothers in the midterm elections. this may have the effect that there is this meme they are evil . >> as businessmen, can you the size with the koch brothers are going through? becausesonally can't when you make a statement like they have made, that they are truly going to change the face of the republican start -- of what the republican party stands for, the issues they espouse, and you do that to that extent, you have taken business and brought it on par with politics. they did it themselves. normally businessmen supported both parties or had people in other organizations, this is a ver

that is a good analogy, steyer versus the koch brothers.as tried to cast himself a democratic foil, or counterpoint. the caller makes a point that a lot of conservatives have in -- it has risen on their radar, which is a good point. look's this tendency to for a bottom-line bottom line interested motivation for these contributions. the democrats have really made an effort to suggest that the politicalrs' advocacy and local spending is motivated by a bottom line interest. ken was overlapped with the causes of a candidate that they advocate for? it is also fair to look at made a ton of money through investments in energy, some of which overlap with the type of advocacy he is doing now. i think that is something the media and the voters are right to look at to try to discern the if there is to see self-interested his motivation. i found it difficult, if i can ake a step back, to draw direct causal link between the direct bottom line and the advocacy. you also have to look at the ideology. political views of these their that got them into areas

more and more, especially after 2012 where of course rove and some of the operatives around the koch brothersssful in raising huge sums of money and didn't get the result. obama was re-elected. the senate remained the same after a billion dollars of spending so some of the donors started to question it and say maybe these consultants are taking us for a ride. so you see increasingly the donors kind of seizing control of the process. you see these small groups of donors like the democracy alliance on the left, and on the ride you see folks like the koch brothers and paul singer who are forming their own sort of roving tribes of big donors. >> what's fascinated me, democracy alliance was first with this but afp is that they have decided to build their own infrastructures. forget just ignoring the consultant class, they're building -- the best voter file belongs to the koch brothers. the second belonged to democracy alliance. neither one belong to the dnc and rnc. >> that's right. and these factions of big donors are increasingly controlling not just the money but the infrastructure as you menti

they would rather turn down $10 million in donation than have money from the koch brothers.hool. new york state not doing very well. instead of taking the donation to do good work they would rather have them keep their money. how stupid. >> all those kids that could get scholarships. >> your buddy would disagree. >> elvis presley who is my hero he had that, remember that big jump suit he had near the end when he weighed 350 pounds. see that one right there. that has sweat stains on it. all kind of stains interest. up for auction and going to go for at least $200,000. i wish i had the money to buy it. eric you do so buy it for me. >> 200 grand. >> sure. >> okay. can we move on? chris christie and i both played high school baseball. i went on to play pro baseball chris christie went into politics. probably two of good choice. here's chris christie yesterday at yankee stadium, charity event. check it out. you got to say listen the guy is getting around pretty darn good. good job, chris christie. >> so the government really wants you to be healthy and you hear this all the time.

they defend the money pumped into our system by the koch brothers as free speech.yonesident, i define to determine what the koch brothers are just -- are spending money on today. of these phantom organizations. they have one on veterans, one on senior citizens. they must have 15 different phony organizations they use to pump money into the system to hide who they are, the two wealthiest men in america, interested in their bottom line. our involvement in government should not be dependent on bank account balances. in american people reject the notion money gives the koch brothers a greater voice in mechanic, ahan a lawyer, a doctor, a health-care believebecause they that elections should be decided by voters. those americans who have constitutional and fundamental right to elect their representatives. the constitution, that everyone most to talk about, does not give corporations a vote and it does not give dollar bills a right to vote. the undue influence that my friend decried three decades ago has not transformed into sport -- free speech. david copperfield in las

these two powers reinforce itself reinforce each other when you're seeing it you mentioned the koch brothersthis enormous inequality of wealth we have in america today which citigroup says is greater than in any in any major power sense since sixteenth century spain that's it five hundred years and it's not me that's not paul krugman that's not a liberal economist that citibank saying that if that money is now moved into the political arena and in the political arena it's it's protecting the rules and the tax laws and the corporate benefits whether it's to the oil industry or the defense industry of the pharmaceutical industry that's maintained the inequality of income yes that interplay that interweaving of political power and financial wealth which has its roots back there in the late one nine hundred seventy s. is exactly why we're in the predicament we're in today frankly when i. start of this book start work on this book tom i did call it who stole the american dream i signed a contract with my publisher for a book called the dream at risk because anybody could see it in two thousand an

the koch brothers are pushing forth and extreme bank streamers libertarian agenda they are there. is nothing bill kristol right the congress already have a hundred billion dollars the un estimates it would cost like thirty billion and a world hunger how much more money do you bastards want all over they want all the monay brought and they want to own the united states government too i love these jews who post on i'm right what is a cult and post a veiled as a rebel i didn't say i was there like the koch brothers bankrolled a lot of politicians and think tanks well and the law is that's just a childs play a part of it cold cash has infiltrated the media public universities take grass roots organizations and even the supreme court the koch brothers are like the two boxer core of deregulatory probably heard here is that of being a prolific grabbers aspire millions these guys want to turn americans and all of you are gay just like the pox and cord yeah so let's start with the media manipulation ok well and this is really a minute first they'll fund a think tank then they'll have that

the koch brothers have a lot of -- >> let's talk about that. if you're in the oil and gas business, that's where you make your billions of dollars, you should get a tax writeoff for all the money you spend on politics because you're basically protecting your tax status and your nonregulatory regime. they're getting money out of -- every time they give a buck to a republican, they're basically guaranteeing themselves a better tax status, less regulation, and more money. they want to maintain their economic position. if you're in the oil and gas industry, you're going to fight to keep your taxpayer funded subsidies. you're going to fight to keep all the anti-regulatory efforts. >> and your ability to pollute. >> they're trading the quality of life on this planet in perpetuity so their family has more money. they're selling the health of planet for their own economic good? yes or no? >> i think the koch brothers are actually making a return on investment here. they're spending a lot of money in these elections. >> they're hurting the planet's heal

that'll over their father's empire. >> there is this lawsuit that played out between the four koch brothers. a board roomes in showdown. they weren't trying to expand the size of the board. deposinghave ended up this. they would have taken a greater role in the direction. there is a really traumatic the board has to sit down and decide. now you can keep in touch with current demand using any phone, or any time. your --202-626-8888. can also hear audio of the five network sunday there's program beginning sundays at noon eastern. long-distance phone charges may apply. >> house and senate lawmakers are in the process of working out differences between their health care bills. members met tuesday to give opening statements on delays the medical care. veterans would be allowed to get private care if they experienced long wait times. this would create more health centers around the country. this meeting is just under two hours. >> without objection, so ordered. we begin negotiations regarding the house amendment, it he senate amendment, the access to care at the 2014. i'm going to recognize mysel

one said quote if a republican presidendid this same thing with the koch brothers we would skewer themthe first quarter gdp falls through the floor. what does this mean? does this mean another recession is looming. the panel joins me after a quick break. until i started gellin'. i got dr. scholl's massaging gel insoles. when they're in my shoes, my feet and legs feel less tired. it's like walking on a wave, dr. scholl's massaging gel insoles, i'm a believer! lgtsds you . >>> minus 3 is really hard to overcome. you have to be very optimistic about what's going to happen in the future and the numbers we have so far for q2 aren't that great. >> we don't get too excited when these individual reports surprise on the upside we don't get too exercised when they surprise on the down side. obviously in this case the latter is true. >> the economy continues to struggle. president has no plan for economic growth. and won't push his party to act on the good ideas that we've passed in a bipartisan fashion here in the house. >>> the gross domestic product gdp fell in the first quarter 2.9%. that's a