you know i can't comment on that i know that koch industries has hired was happy doesn't p.r. firms to respond to my stories they have my name on their website coke facts to respond to some of the articles i've written a coke lobbyist name nancy phone hire has been trying to place pieces against jane mayer lining both her work and my work but that's all i can say the moment or keep up the great work thank you to the fun thanks so much for dropping out tonight and boys great great reporting thanks for having me. it is remarkable. speaking of crony capitalism there are allies as assembling his committee staff and there seems to be a common theme among these new aides they all have ties to transnational corporate lobbyists i says team it's hell bent on taking down government regulations that he has to big oil polluters and other harmful industries include several people with ties to the cult brothers and another four that were previous lobbyists for the same industries that isis is taking advice from like the alliance of automobile manufacturers and dow chemical so is this what w

government regulations that he has to big oil polluters and other harmful industries include several people with ties to the koch brothers and another four that were previous lobbyists for the same industries that isis is taking advice from the alliance of automobile manufacturers and dow chemical so is this what we should expect from the guy who's in charge of government oversight or is this officially the best congressional committee money can buy that media has been following the issues that regulatory policy analyst at o.m.b. watch and he joins me now in the studio matt welcome back to be here and i pronounce your last this great met first of all give us an overview of this what's what's going on here with that with your allies well. ever since even before terminator took the reins as chairman he sent out a letter to industry lobbying groups they say they're sending them to business but it's really just the lobbyists and asking them for a hit list of regulations so he basically turned very early on he wanted to target regulation and now we're finding out that a lot of people on the committee staff have a his

the koch industries company has basically monetize the very worst types of carbon emitting industries whether it's fertilizer oil refinery. tar sands basically specialize in global warming and that's why the koch industries charitable funds you know almost three dozen different climate organizations so it's two things there's incredible you go there and you can see that in the piece they're bragging about how brilliant they are and the weekly standard person's lavishing praise on them on the other hand they want to make more money into the r. o. i their return on investment is incredible if you just think about the koch brothers made an additional eleven billion dollars in the last two years and let's imagine that it's all income and they make it again in the next two years that means billions yeah the thousand million that means. that effort with the bush tax cuts for the upper two percent they're sending five hundred million dollars right there and that's that's just one small part of us robert. two to what extent are your films. focusing on the connection between the fact that not

on the koch brothers and they they're fighting to deny climate change and koch industries is one of the largest emitters of carbon dioxide in the country so i mean there's a clear blame to the koch bottom line when they find all these groups the tea party you know it they it is composed of many are with hundreds of thousands of regular ordinary americans but when you have the coast brothers going to rallies handing out pamphlets telling tea partiers to help cut taxes on the rich or deny climate change we have the koch brothers paying for forty five million dollars in attack ads supposedly from the tea party when you have these koch brothers paying for buses to bus tea partiers all over the country to further the koch brothers bottom line and political agenda that's where i have a problem. now the thing that i have a problem with if we look back to this weekly standard article is there really does sound like this kind of self-pity to me boo hoo the koch brothers just can't understand why so many people are talking about them why is that why you know they're getting so much criticism b

although it seems to matter is what koch industries think science is niall partisanship and the rising power of special interest are deeply intertwined and they feed off each other koch industries benefits immensely from the rollback of the u.p.a. regulations. so it backs republican candidates who advocate this position and it funds so is that the case whether it's environmental or labor policy the republicans have to first ask permission from the koch brothers and what can we do to advance progressive policies in the face of a billion dollar headwind to speak to this i'm pleased to welcome from capitol hill california congressman henry waxman congressman welcome to the program used to be with you thank you back in one nine hundred ninety you were a major hero you still locker played in this regard fighting against polluters on behalf of the clean air act did you ever a bajan back then that people who own companies like koch industries that literally kill people with cancers and make billions for their owners would end up calling the shots for america as republicans i am amazed where w

at pleasure continue advocating for their interests in wisconsin a state statement released by koch industries read with the left trying to intimidate the koch brothers to back off from their support for freedom and signaling to others that this is what happens if you oppose the administration and its allies we have no choice but to continue to fight we will not step back at all on top of that americans for prosperity executive director of michigan scott said this race. so we fight these battles on taxes and regulations not really what we'd like to see is to take the unions out at the knees so they don't have the resources to fight these battles sort of the koch brothers and their interest groups have any business getting involved in this was constantly a dispute if so what is here to speak to this issue phil kerpen was president of policy at americans for prosperity philip welcome my pleasure great to have you here you know there's a kind of a joke that's gone viral around the internet today that there's a c.e.o. a tea partier and a union guy sitting at a table with dozen cookies and from the

ninety five percent of the the assets are held by one small family now this guy could sell to koch industries for example energy industry company they could sell it to them for any price they deem is a good a good guy a good sell a good deal for the state it's also so it was there is work wisconsin bahrain or dublin ireland of course they just got a new deal with their new government where they would start selling pieces off of that country so their creditors for no reason other than to make a few. rich so it's against a corporate architecture and people are revolting against the corporate. but the so far they have no scalps they have no wins there is a better regime change except in tunisia and egypt those are the only two successful regime changes we've seen in the global insurrection against banker occupation we haven't seen anything in europe yet you know portugal looks good ireland looks good greece looks good i think one of those countries should get a regime change soon in the u.s. you've got the states scott walker is a mubarak of the of the midwest i mean you should be replaced immed

you know the koch industries put out an invitation to this january's retreat last last fall touting the fact that scalia and thomas had a tent had been featured at past retreats so based on that information we raised the issue with the department of justice and asked for further information article three sections one into the constitution. have two interesting things to say about this the first is that justices show preside as long as they hold their offices during good behavior. article section one and then the second is that they show operate under such regulations as congress shall make. is it possible that there's a congressional remedy to misbehavior in the supreme court the best way knowledge is never been employed as for this country well and interestingly today representative chris murphy from connecticut introduced a bill that would apply the. federal code of conduct to the supreme court so that is one way that is one way to handle the situation i mean it is clear that the supreme court judges should be. held accountable to the same standards as every other court there's no rea

the evil koch brothers i'd like to remind everyone here that georgia pacific which is part of koch industries that's also part of the pension fund. the public unions. yeah i don't know why they're so upset with the koch brothers considering that they're probably making out there a lot of money in their retirements but i think the main thing here said that workers behaved like a petulant child he doesn't want to talk to the state senators he doesn't like that they're not going his way he got concessions from the years that he wanted and the first let's go back even further to how this all started the but the budget was balanced window oil left he passed massive tax cuts which then made budget crisis so he had to do so he could do the budget repair bill but you try to shove there in three days without much testimony or much hearings are going through committee and when the state senators said you know look we've got to slow this down we want to go through this like hold on hold on here he laughed because there is no other option you want because they both will go either way look if everything i

well koch industries sock puppets are a little bit like battle i'm a little bit more in the. they hired a p.r. firm sue basically airbrushed their image because you know what the p.d.f. is one of the most searchable websites on the planet you can find it in almost any google search for whatever type of thing you're looking for so they hired this p.r. firm to make up these great usernames sock puppets to go in and it the coke we're competing pages distancing them from the tea party movement i guess they don't want to be actually connected to the groups they find comparing the coax to george soros concerns and spears the theories. and just generally deleting citations it's a liberal web sites like mother jones alter net what have you i think i may have told you i know i've mentioned on the air that oh about four years ago most have been now i was in one of the buildings one of the think tanks here in d.c. that's i don't know it was funny. and there were a bunch of people who looked like interns and they all had with the pages you know and i'm assuming that they were busily edit

host: defeating the consumer product database is a top lobbyist concern for the koch industries sinceo you balance the interests of corporations that are important to your district with the needs of citizens? caller: i came to congress from the private sector. i have run two small businesses and before that i was a soldier. i spent 24 months talking to the citizens and listening to their concerns. amongst their primary concern is and the state government that is too big and spending too much money that, frankly, we do not have. 75 days in my time in congress i am taking all the tasks that the people have test we with. the people that i met in rural kansas. i understand deeply their concern about this enormous federal government and every day i go to work to make sure that i represent them as they asked me to. host: let's take a call. jane, democratic line. caller: good morning. i am going to have to paraphrase a bit, but i believe that it was thurgood marshall that said this as applies to lawyers, but i think that applies to all of us. a lawyer is either a social engineer or a social

host: defeating the consumer product database is a top lobbyist concern for the koch industries since 2008. how do you balance the interests of corporations that are important to your district with the needs of citizens? caller: i came to congress from the private sector. i have run two small businesses and before that i was a soldier. i spent 24 months talking to the citizens and listening to their concerns. amongst their primary concern is and the state government that is too big and spending too much money that, frankly, we do not have. 75 days in my time in congress i am taking all the tasks that the people have test we with. the people that i met in rural kansas. i understand deeply their concern about this enormous federal government and every day i go to work to make sure that i represent them as they asked me to. host: let's take a call. jane, democratic line. caller: good morning. i am going to have to paraphrase a bit, but i believe that it was thurgood marshall that said this as applies to lawyers, but i think that applies to all of us. a lawyer is either a social engineer

and big industry poodle did a strip with i'm just this is my new member yes. walker is the koch brothers poodle and you know if he didn't even recognize he didn't even know as wasteful enough to know that it wasn't scott to walk to work you would have a hard time not interrupting i thought maybe i'd share with you this is have some factor it's you can have your own glass i drink it it's like natural rhythm or a.t.t. i don't i don't have a need to. prove it oh yeah you know i don't i'm sure doesn't taste as good as the grasshopper coty's no it doesn't anyway. excuse me in your libertarian world how do we protect ourselves from predators well i think this shows again how. unbelievably inept government is doing inspections all of these products which you're right had led in bad tires and center were all approved by the government for entry into the country this is after the bush administration cut back on the number of inspectors radically cut back a bit what fossil was a radical was it was minimal second of all the government's terrible at what they do as i said this is why i was

koch brothers. they have a clear willingness to give through their organizational industries and the americans for prosperity and other things they have set up. i would be surprised if george soros was giving as much as they are willing to put in in the cycle, but he is certainly capable of it. host: after watergate we saw the creation of the s.e.c. where you had candidates accepting donations. we have had candidates saying no to matching dollars. they still have to abide by the restrictions and how much they can raise per individual. now we have these outside groups that really are taking the place of these restrictions where there is very little control, if any. guest: it has really moved them out of this area where they have influence over a race or sear yiffs races. and it has taken some of the money away from the parties, but i think, again, 2012, the stakes couldn't be higher, with obama trying to stay for his second term and a host of individuals lining up to win this g.o.p. nomination. they have millions of dollars already raised for that fight. it's going to be at least a $5 pill bill and pob reply