the kochs pioneered the use of dark money. being bank rolled by megadonors this way can have negative implications. the kochs shrouded a lot of spending in secret trying to minimise that effect. clearly they haven't been successful. >> how do you fool the dark money? >> you don't. there are minimal disclosure requirements that let you see which groups are spending money to some degree when they make ads. you can identify the groups. the problem is they are frequently named something like americans for american pie or whatever. and you can't see who is distributing that money. >> what about democrats, there's big donors stepping up for 2015. >> certainly. there's a system where both sides need to rely on a small amount of donors. i'll judge candidates and folks that get involved in the political process on how they want to fix the system. folks have to play the game unfortunately, as it is rigged towards the 1% in the donor class. people should be taking a strong stand fixing the system. limiting the roll of big money. we need

of the new cycle the big the environmental activist has 73 million more than kochs.almost $2 billion you dwarf the kochs. warda you complaining about? >> billionaire verses billionaire does not help the doesn't matter what side but george soros would gladly get out of politics to support campaign finance reform. john: because the government is in charge. >> because they believe money corrupts the political process. john: look at the spending most assume republicans are richer but look at the numbers from the last election democratic party and the about campaign spent slightly more than the republican. >> that is the first time in my lifetime i think we don't like it when democrats play the same game. >> with the koch brothers i have spent time with both david and charles and they have paid me to speak at a few of their even said they gave the money to charities. issing fehr doing something terrible david is a more visible brother and once ran for office and is in the society pages. charles stays in kansas to grow the company more than 100 fold that is real wealth cre

brothers have one. ♪ >> you know the koch are the -- the koch brothers are the king makers of the republicanlan to endorse a candidate in the primaries, but by some accounts there personal favorite is the governor of wisconsin, scott walker. julie bike with has been covering this story. let's begin with the relationship between the kochs and governor walker because it's hardly brand-new. >> the koch brothers and their various political organizations have been paying attention to scott walker for years now. they paid attention to him when he was milwaukee county executive and he took a personal pay cut and/to the payrolls of public employees, right in line with things the koch brothers believe in -- reducing the size of government overall. and then principally the americans for prosperity, huge group that does a lot of television advertising and groundwork for candidates backed him in the 2010 gubernatorial race and has been with him ever since. >> what is it the koch brothers find so appealing in scott walker and even if they are not going to officially endorse them , they and their fundrais

the koch brothers make most of their money in fossil fuels. that is a very scary situation when you have a party, virtually the entire party, willing to reject buyers while receiving a campaign contributions from big energy. >> did you not see any progress in the fact that five republicans did vote for an amendment that said humans are can cheating to climate change? did that surprise you? >> i suppose it is a step forward. a controversial position that climate change is caused by human activity. there is a minimal amount of progress. clearly it is an embarrassment. we can disagree about how you receive -- how you proceed. we can disagree about how you do it. there should be no disagreement that carbon emissions and human activity is the basis for climate change. >> where do you drop that -- draw that line? who should be protected? >> i think the president is roughly in the right ballpark. it is not just the individual taxation. we have seen an explosion in terms of the increase of income of the wealthiest people in this country. at the same t

no accident, but the koch brothers make most of their money in fossil fuels. they put huge amounts of money into the political process. that is a very scary situation when you have a party, virtually the entire party, willing to reject science while receiving a campaign contributions from big energy. this is an issue above and beyond the politics that worries me very much for our kids and our grandchildren. >> did you not see any progress in the fact that five republicans did vote for an amendment that said humans are contributing to climate change? did that surprise you? >> i gather that the most -- i don't want to be too facetious here. i suppose it is a step forward. you go to the international community and 54 members of the senate took the controversial position that climate change is caused by human activity. what will the scientific community say? are you kidding me? there is a minimal amount of progress. clearly it is an embarrassment. i think it is an international embarrassment. i think we can disagree about how you proceed. we can disagree about how

really, the kochs' money is way more impressive than any of the g.o.p. candidates so far. i think they should just have the $900 million run for office. hey! give it up for the next president of the united states, johnny actual cash. ( cheers and applause ) listen, i'm-- please. all kidding aside, i'm not worried that money is going to corrupt our vaunted political system. america's values are too bedrock solid-- freedom of speech respect for human rights-- these principles are the foundation of our national identity. they will stand strong no matter how much economic power is hurled at them. ( barking ) what's that? what's that, girl? i'm talking about american values being incorruptible, girl. ( bark ) ( laughter ) what's that you say? saudi arabia is in trouble? drop everything, we've got to go now? >> president obama cutting short a trip to india today. he's traveling to saudi arabia to pay his respects to the family of king abdullah, who died last week. >> jon: so obama cut short his india trip to jet off to saudi arabia. india was probably boring him. >> mr. obama be

the brothers have been compared to another set of closely minded siblings, the koch brothers, but theothers have spent hundreds of millions backing tea party candidates and conservative causes. >> i don't actually know about them. [laughter] i think there definitely has to be differences in the sense that those guys are doing something consistent with their self interest, and you know -- >> when you say self interest, what do you mean? >> they basically are pushing stuff that is very good for private enterprise, in specific, oil refinery. very consistently, very aggressively, and sometimes very intelligently. i see that as we are on very different trajectory in terms of how we think about it, who we think we are representing, and what we are trying to accomplish. >> but he does have an agenda, one that leans to the left. he spoke at the democratic convention of 2012. >> big things are happening. thanks to president obama, america is laying the foundation for the way we power tomorrow. betty: he and his wife have given more than $11 million to super pacs he founded. they hosted a fundr

our target is not coach not the koch brothers, its the mass shifting from their place of comfort to see world the way we see it and we could collectively build a world the way we like to see it. >> i take exception at the thought that your target is not the personality like the koch brothers or barack obama. i know you could embrace why you would say that i have to challenge the fact that they in fact should be part of what you target. because these are forces that have the power to shape opinion. ♪ ♪ i'm on my way ♪ ♪ i'm on my way ♪ ♪ god i'm on my way ♪ >> what we set out to achieve in the civil rights movement is qualitatively extended by the mission that young people today find themselves on. of all the things i think we could do as a people in this country, the most important tool at our disposal is the vote. the reason we seem to be fighting the same fight all the time is because we are fighting the same fight all the time. this generation has now got to go back and pay attention to the things we had won are now being lost because of this power play. so i think this thing we feel

so charles koch who is the second of the four koch brothers returns home -- she attends m.i.t.l. he returns home enjoys the birch society of russia because his dad is an influential member. really seems to take to it. he found the bookstore down the street from the koch family home where he carries a section on austrian, free-market economics. to review an idea of how diehard the koch and were about communist map at one point, i heard one story from a family friend who recall strolling up to the koch family home in the mid-1960s. he's carrying a copy of is hemingway's the sun also rises. he knocks on the door in his eyes flicker over the cover of this book and the visitor can tell there is something wrong. finally he asks okay what is the quick response to lately well, hemingway was a communist in his literature is not allowed inside her home. so this visitor actually have to leave his copy of hemingway on the stoop in order to enter. that is how serious they were about communism at that point. >> here's a look at some books being published this week. >> chuck mccutcheon inside

we at koch, charles koch had a respect for all ten amendments in the bill of rights.omise for all americans. the bill of rights enacted over 220 years ago and still remains the foundation or it should of our free society. and it provides a blue print for free and prosperous society that we still think can work for everyone especially the most disadvantaged among us. an the rights contained in the bill of rights, they cannot be taken from an individual by government because theer are our natural rights -- our natural and unalienable rights from our creator and not given to us by the government. that is an important point to remember. and we believe that everything at koch, business, philanthropic, government policy, we must help everyone improve their lives and this is particularly true in the criminal justice system and the bill of rights is focused on criminal justice issues and particularly the fifth amendment said we need to make sure before we take anyone's life liberty and property you have to have a due process of law. the sixth amendment guarantees the life of

i have to ask, the koch brothers are involved. is this a way for the koches to buy progressive friends? >> from my perspective, i'll work with anyone who wants to have a serious conversation about criminal justice reform. what we've seen is this is a pressing issue for people across the country, and koch industries has been very involved in trying to think about ways that we can improve indigent defense, that we can look where the right resources need to be in the system in order for the government to function most effectively, but as matt said to have a justice system that is fair and effective. and i think it's a turning point where people, not just our coalition partners but also this entity came together with a wide range of responses who are may not be coming to the table for the same reason but share a common goal about having an impact on the criminal justice system, and seeing some real results happen within a short time frame. kennedy: very good, freedom and the respect for civil liberties. the future has flickers of brig

we saw them together out in palm streets at the koch event. coming up, cpac.w you're counting down the hours. >> absolutely. >> two weeks and three days from today. they are doing a little different format this year. they say they don't want it to just be a talk a thonn. any major speaker will have to answer questions. they're going to do it in a few ways. they'll try to have as many candidates on stage with maybe an anchor asking them questions, a board member asking questions, people from the audience ask them questions. that's part of the conservative political action conference trying to say to republicans, we're going to play a role in vetting these people. here's what they look like without a teleprompter. >> it will be interesting if it doesn't violate the we pick the debates rule? >> that's why they're not calling it a debate, a forum. >> a conversation. just a conversation. >> i'll close with this. ted cruz is still officially just testing the waters. let's be clear. he's without a doubt running for president. he's making adjustments to his schedule a

>> lefties and progressists like to say hence harry reid's obsession with the koch brothers. i think joe biden has to emancipate himself from ignorance. thank you so much. >> oh, my god. a kiss from kennedy. love it. kennedy: baby. tell me what you think. [ laughter ] >> continue the chat on twitter, coming up, john stossel makes his first appearance on the show to tell us all about the mob. the ruling everybody. first the obama administration admitted they have no plan if the supreme court blows a hole in obamacare. what the hell is going to happen next? find out. stay right here. we're reinventing inhow we do business, so businesses can reinvent the world. from pharmaceuticals to 3d prototyping, biotech to clean energy. whether your business is moving, expanding or just getting started... only new york offers you zero taxes for 10 years with startup ny, business incubators that partner companies with universities, and venture capital funding for high growth industries. see how new york can grow your business and create jobs. visit ny.gov/business he'sthere's a guy out there

according to media reports, it appears that one family -- the extreme right-wing koch brothers -- are prepared to spend more money than either the democratic party or the republican party in the coming elections. in other words, one family, a family which is worst about $100 billion, may well have a stronger political presence than either of our major parties. now, i know that people are not comfortable when i say this, but i want you to take a hard look at what's going on, take a deep breath, and you tell me whether or not we are looking at a democracy or whether or not we are looking at an oligarchy. when you have one family that has more political power than the democratic party, than the republican party which can spend unlimited sums of money not only on campaigns, but on think tanks, on media, i worry very, very much about the future of democracy in our country. and that is why it is absolutely imperative that we pass a constitutional amendment to overturn citizens united and, in fact, why we must move forward toward public funding of elections. i want young people out there, wh

koch foundation. in letters with his funders, dr.oon referred to his scientific papers or congressional testimony as "deliverables." these new details confirm earlier concerns about soon's funding, which he downplays in this clip from 2013. cook's i>> i have no penny of government money since 2004. i have been receiving money from whoever wants to send me money. i have received money from exxonmobil, but they have not given me money for a long time. american petroleum institute. anything you wish for from all of these companies. i write the proposal. [indiscernible] always for very small amounts. >> that is dr. soon from 2013. kert davies, you are executive director of the climate investigations center, which obtained new documents through public records requests that shed new light on the influence of fossil fuel interests on the research of dr. willie soon. can you talk about what you have found? >> first to clarify it, greenpeace investigation going back to 2009 when i was there, we started with a public records act request throug

for now, he's running against the koch brothers. >> that's likely within a short period of time thath brothers themselves will have a stronger political presence than either the democratic or republican party. >> reporter: senator bernie sanders of vermont as unabashedly progressive as ben & jerry's. so fifth trip to iowa. are you in or are you out? >> before i make that decision i have to develop a sense in my own gut as to whether or not there is the grass roots support across the country. >> reporter: he rails against the corrupting influence of money inolitics. he stands for economic justice. >> i am prepared to take on the billionaire class. >> reporter: he's not just for raising the minimum wage. he wants to double it. sanders is neither a democrat nor a republican. he's a democratic socialist. the longest serving independent member of congress. 24 years. how in practical terms would a sanders candidacy work? would you run as a democrat? >> i don't want to say that. the fact that i'm in iowa, a caucus state maybe speaks for itself. i vice president made a final decision. a lot

if you deny the science on climate change that at least gets you the koch brothers, right? koch brothers and other corporate interest who don't want steps to be taken to fight climate change they will support and praise you for denying the science of climate change. if you deny the science on measles, what does that get you? what does that get you on the right? it started off today with chris christie being the latest would be presidential contender who had a bad day in lon done don't. this crossed back to this side of the thet atlantic and a bigger question of whether there is a new really important part of the scientific consensus that conservatives will stop believing in for some inexplicable reason that makes sense only in their world. there's confidence. then there's trusting your vehicle maintenance to ford service confidence. our expertise, technology, and high quality parts mean your peace of mind. now you can get the works, a multi-point inspection with a synthetic blend oil change tire rotation, brake inspection and more. $29.95 or less. mouths are watering, lemon

internal logic of the right, if you deny the science on climate change, that at least gets you the koch brothers, right? they want there to not be any stepping taken to fight climate change. they will praise you in return for you denying the science of climate change. but if you deny the science on measles, what does that get you? what does that get you on the right? it started off today with chris christie being just the latest would be presidential contender that had a very bad day in london. this crossed back other to this side of the atlantic. this is now a wigger and worrying quo about whether there is a whole new and really important part of the scientific con consensus that republicans will start believing inside their world. when you don't get enough sleep... and your body aches... you're not yourself. tylenol® pm relieves pain and helps you fall fast asleep and stay asleep. we give you a better night. you're a better you all day. tylenol®. hey matt, what's up? i'm just looking over the company bills. is that what we pay for internet? yup. dsl is about 90 bucks a month. that's f

neil: are the koch brothers about to end the world?ed to planetary disaster by undermining climate action. the end of the world scare tactics are getting old but they must help raise money. >>. >> for how many decades have you said catastrophe is just a few short years away? >> if it has a shelf life for a while and has been 26 years. in fact, i obtained a memo under the freedom of information act on the 20th anniversary of the first warning to say it is increasingly inconsistent and persuasive argument we have to move from polar bears to rest materialists we should not just walk away lightly. neil: climate stage covered a lot more area. but i think of comedy central. >> koch brothers you're making it difficult to boycott. right? the world's most comfortable fabric? >> nobody is taking my lycra [laughter] >> it is easier said than done. >> to personalize just when you talk about a lot of people, as the liberty movement with the establishment press to push 26 years that this individual library -- liberty will not kill us off with afford

internal logic of the right, if you deny the science on climate change, that at least gets you the koch brothers, right? they want there to not be any stepping taken to fight climate change. they will praise you in return for you denying the science of climate change. but if you deny the science on measles, what does that get you? what does that get you on the right? it started off today with chris christie being just the latest would be presidential contender that had a very bad day in london. this crossed back other to this side of the atlantic. this is now a wigger and worrying quo about whether there is a whole new and really important part of the scientific con consensus that republicans will start believing inside their world. was a bad motivational speaker? i look around this room and i see nothing but untapped potential. you have potential. you have...oh boy. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. what's that thing? i moved our old security system out here to see if it could monitor the front yard. why don't you switch to xfinity home? i

>> well walker is riding the train that pulled up at his door sponsored by the koch brothers. these are not indigenous wisconsin values. right to work was created and crafted by corp races and right wing politicians at a national conference. not by the people of wisconsin. similarly in walker's budget which he is distracting us from to stick it to unions again. wisconsin residents didn't say let's cut our schools and university system and make you pay a fee to get into public parks, and destroy the apparatus of environmental regulation. this is walker taking a national right-wing philosophy and testing it out in wisconsin. can we really take it to the hoop here. he is testing it out to see if he can divide a state and pit working people against each other. and create a feeling that they are distracted, disempower unions. >> given what we saw with the recall, put yourself in the shoes of the closest advisor to governor scott walker today. you have to walk in his office saying governor there is a hundred thousand people outside, is your mood awesome or are you bummed? >> he is d

according to media reports, it appears that one family -- the extreme right-wing koch brothers -- are prepared to spend more money than either the democratic party or the republican party in the coming elections. in other words, one family, a family which is worst about $100 billion, may well have a stronger political presence than either of our major parties. now, i know that people are not comfortable when i say this, but i want you to take a hard look at what's going on, take a deep breath, and you tell me whether or not we are looking at a democracy or whether or not we are looking at an oligarchy. when you have one family that has more political power than the democratic party, than the republican party which can spend unlimited sums of money not only on campaigns, but on think tanks, on media, i worry very, very much about the future of democracy in our country. and that is why it is absolutely imperative that we pass a constitutional amendment to overturn citizens united and, in fact, why we must move forward toward public funding of elections. i want young people out there, wh

he's done well because of the recall effort in getting out of state money from koch brothers and otherd such so having rush limbaugh talking in that way will help him with small donors and may help if he tries to start putting together a grass-roots operation in iowa south carolina new hampshire, which he really has to start doing yesterday. >> well i think there's par of the choir that probably didn't know who scott walker is. i don't think limbaugh can hurt him with that crowd. david corn always a pleasure. thanks so much. >>> that is "the ed show." "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. \s . >>> thank to you for tuning in. i'm live tonight from the fake ga lap goss islands. happy darwin today. 206 years ago charles darwin was born. he would develop his theory of evolution from what he saw right here in galapagos islands, all the way back to 1835 when darwin discovered the animals that led to his famous theory. look there's the famous galapagos seals, but back in reality people all over the world are celebrating darwin's birthday today. there are over 100 parti

>> i'm looking at the incredible piece about scott walker and his relationship with the koch brothersp next taking stock. on radio, bloomberg law. sayonara. ♪ >> hello, i am pimm fox. this is what i'm taking stock of. the financial confrontation between greece and europe is a standoff but the ease tensions greek officials might request a six-month extension of its loan agreement. the finance minister says the extension needs to be adopted because nobody wants greece to leave the euro area. >> greece representative issa democratic elected government have to decide what it wants. i cannot expand something the country does not want. >> notable investor in short seller carson. he explains

why did they judge on it, the coke koch brothersare the recipients. they lobbied, it shot it in the foot. i think this is a cautious president. let's not forget times changed. there are concerns. i get that. >> imagine that. there are something got politicized and didn't happen in washington. this is par for the course. we talked to grover norquist earlier. the fact is that everything is politicized. will happening. >> i don't think so. there may be stop gap bills. you may see other issues punted, but you will not cabinet long-term solutions pass the. >> they may break more, but we will not see fixes. >> exactly. >> what are we asking. >> they don't have the votes in the senate or the house. all they can do it take it to 2016, assuming the president decides it's a bad idea. it's legislation for the future, and hold it over members of congress and a"look at this guy. he doesn't care about the economy or oil prices and could be a tool. >> except that oil is $50 a barrel, which takes the wind out of those sales. do you think oil will go up? >> i think it

scott walker has the koch brothers. >> i think you are both idiots most of the time but with this particulartance i have scott walker number two as well. >> this is a guy, ted cruz, small donors. he is going to be the king of the super pac. you will get checks that will pay your salary for 15 years. >> he is the king of the $20 checks. [indiscernible] >> funding is a waste of time if you can do grassroots and checks. that is big. >> is there enough money out there in the world for marco rubio? >> actually, there is. marco rubio is in better position than people think. you can be right behind jeb bush. if jeb bush turns out to be a roman candle and not a rocket marco rubio could raise all that money. >> the anti-terrorism credential candidates. number one and number two. >> number one is rubio. in the senate unlike a lot of the governors he is competing against, yes foreign policy -- he has foreign policy and is passionate about it. jeb is number two. >> number one is jeb because he is a bush. he can say he has foreign policy like his father. number two is marco rubio for the same reasons ale

he also has the koch brothers in his popping. and those who were involved in this walker stuff, they believe in this generational thing, just like with mitt romney, they are ready for a new, fresh face, and they like that he is gotten good and not part of the old thing, that is not going to stop jeb bush from raising a lot of money, but there is a class of money that is going to back walker. they look at marco rubio for that reason, too. mark: but we cannot emphasize enough how good jeb bush is at raising money. the difference between walker and christie is multiple millions, so the difference between walker and christie and bush is tens of millions. john: as you know, there is only so much money you can spend in iowa. there is enough. if you have enough money to take iowa, you don't need $200 million. mark: but to be able to go on the air in the summer -- john: all i am saying is that scott walker needs to win iowa. if he makes a certain nut, it doesn't matter if you beats jeb bush. john: go ahead, put it on. james carville: wha

crosshairs of americans for prosperity, an organization founded by billionaire libertarian activists, the koch brothers. >> americans for prosperity's wisconsin office happens to be in the same building as gtac's lobbyist, bob seitz. in fact, seitz lobbies for them too. dick thiede was overmatched. >> we ended up with 44 votes. the opponent got 135 votes. >> the mining dispute had attracted money from out of state to a tiny county election. i asked dick how that felt. >> i had a really wonderful homeroom teacher and history teacher at shorewood high school. his name was otis sweiger and one of the things he said is that democracy is fragile. it doesn't take much. >> what happens to the town here and to the people here if this mine doesn't go through? >> we need our community to exist. and if we don't get something here, our community going to continue to decline and you're gonna see, continue to see an area of high poverty. >> mm-hmm. >> nobody wants poverty, nobody. >> five generations are here. my great-grandfather started it, you know, i ain't going to let it go. >> we ain't leaving. >> if

they enter the koch television as -- competition as one of nearly 3,000 and hope to exit with the top prize, best in show. peter green has been part of the dog show circuit for over 60 years as handler, a judge and now an owner. he won best in show four times at westminster. what's the key to being a really good handler? you really have to love the dogs. you have to really want to present a wonderful dog. >> reporter: while they're simply pets to many of us, the dogs here are highly trained in the art of competition, says owner and handler dave kress. you think he enjoys the process. >> i think he does absolutely. it's discipline and structure and he gets a lot of treats. >> reporter: inside the ring it's how the dog conforms to the breed's standards that sets it apart from the pact. >> my job is to make sure that the dog is posed to his best advantage. >> reporter: they all look tense to me. >> no, they're all doing their best. this is their moment, you know. >> reporter: handler bobby blue of cleveland likes the confidence she sees from her afghan hound named allay. >> he's a stalli