, kodak, black, etc. and they perceive that as meaning i can i can now commit crimes and just get a pardon. and he has to, you know, debunk that idea and convey that no, you're not the kind of person that's going to get a pardon. this whole conversation we're having the concern is we're just might shift to an environment where lawlessness is more accepted across the country on many levels if it's starting at the top, it'll trickle down. at the same time, people want to see more toughness on crime. we'll just have to see where that where that kind of chaos lands. before president trump left office and at the end of 20 or at the beginning of 2021, there was reporting that he was possibly looking at pardoning himself. what is our current understanding of somebodies ability to do that? and then to kathleen's point about the felony convictions he has. would he be able pardon himself in those cases or other cases like the georgia election interference or the his impeachment? okay, great. so on the self-pardon,

>> look when we saw digital photos transform a lot of people didn't get the fact that kodak was getting replaced by instagram and facebook but they get digital photos. digital capital is what happens when your long-term store value goes from a building or goes from a portfolio of stocks to a digital asset like bitcoin. bitcoin represents the digital transformation of hundreds of trillions of dollars of capital in the world. no one expected to see it so they don't quite get what is going to be except for the fact that it's worth all of the money in the world. charles: let's talk about this because you do have a couple of slides showing assets around the world. first, okay, let's start with this , from again, geared toward microsoft but some critics will say when you talk about digital capital being economically and technically superior. no tax, i mean, it doesn't mean it can't be taxed in certain jurisdictions, no torts. legal issues are going to come up, no regulator. these are great points but are they forever points? >> the point is i got $100 million in new york city and i buy a buil

francine: but it's a difficult business because you don't want to be kodak, right? you don't want to invest in something that goes nowhere. bruce: yeah, look, we are always trying to understand where is the future going and how do we invest with that. and often, it's listening to your counterparties, your clients, your partners, and hearing what they are saying. and what they want to do. and we are going with them. and that's really -- we are the backbone behind global business. and when they need capital, we fund it. francine: and i think your northstar, as it were, is three d's, right? bruce: yeah, look, i would say over time, we are always trying to figure out, what are the things, what are the themes that are going to drive the world? and today, the digitalization of everything, the decarbonization of everything, and the deglobalization of everything are three, i would say, mega trend themes that are going to be very dominant in investing for the next -- not the next two or three years, the next 20 to 30 years. francine: geopolitics is, i guess, taking a turn fo

sharks on the attacks here and celebrating make the pass from the kodak co blanco in past.ghlights the folly in front for the tying goal. it was the 13th of the season filling second now and the jets. they lead to a one shot from the power play a celebrated. it takes pass guy. ball right there and i with a bat candidates tied the game up at 2. celebrate. literally from for in the 3rd in the shark get a feel just started one break from get away with >> it's taken on a 10 or so. you see what they do. they're but high of a up at 3 veterans. 11. go with last one. but then the palin, just howard's a shark to the and of course, the sharks they held on. but 90 seconds left to go. and adam lowry, actually deadly next. a live shot there for about the call. one 13 left and it proved to be the game winner, the shark. they hung on. so they really in. but they lose in the in. 43 the final >> and they might have found a remedy in the newly acquired guard dennis schroder. will that offensive? really? they're looking for. we're talking about the warriors at this point. now, schroder is act

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become resilient, the end of trump administration they had that 750 million dollar loan to eastman kodak api's we active pharmaceutical ingredients i hope to them president trump's agenda when he takes office. >> refuges reliant on china supply chain. >> in 20 to hospital sources told me expecting gloves masks ppe equipment but ships carrying them were told by china turn around go back to china because in which needed those products. and they had cornered the market, doing it further turning ships around and now when is we knew, we expected because heard from tom cotton, arkansas senator covid pandemic was a result of covid leaking from the wuhan lab michael. >> from beginning anyone said that -- denigrated canceled, said your -- fomenting a war with china to look at objective faction back then did not make sense came out of a wet market, so, now that they've been, exposed to the world, saw a report today more and more was from lab we don't know whether intentionally leaked or just bad management. what does that do to china credibility if anything going forward. >> you know it should hav

kodak's has really formed the foundation for food standard which are really important for trade internationally and so it's been operating for about 60 years. china is a member. with russia is it is a -- and he basically it's got hundreds of countries that are members and they meet, they meet like many times during the year to discuss the food standards as they come through the process. the important thing is they really bring their subject matter experts. so each country, i mean some countries send political people but for the most part countries are sending their international experts in different topics which are under consideration. and i really do believe that this kind of multilateral platforms can serve the basis for bilateral discussion between different countries. i even observed once many years ago two countries that were at war basically where bonds were flying in the experts were actually meeting and discussing the topics at the meeting. so it really is a safe space for countries to do this. i do want to just mention that last week we got a paper approved at the commission level for

sharks on the attack here and celebrating make the path from the kodak co blanco in past.highlights the folly in front for the tying goal. it was his 13th of the season filling second now and the jets. they lead to a one shot from the power play a celebrated. it takes pass guy right there and i with a bat candidates tied the game up at 2, a pace celebrate literally from 4 in the 3rd in the shark get a feel. here start the 2 one break from and it with >> it's taken on a 10 or so. you see what they do. they're but high of a up at 3 veterans 11, go with that last one. but then the challenges, howard's a shark to the and of course, the sharks they held on. but 90 seconds left to go. and adam lowry was next a live shot there for about the book. one 13 left and it proved to be the game winner, the shark. they hung so that silly in. but they lose in the 43 the final to mabel 1 million we're going stand for. they were looking for their 3rd straight win hosting merrimack. let's go through the 1st half right here. word stanford up by 6, all diet sellers from date with history. plus

sharks on the attacks here and celebrating make the path from the kodak co blanco in past.ont for the tying goal. it was his 13th of the season filling second now and the jets. they lead to a one shot from the power plant celebrated. it takes pass guy. ball right there and i with a bat candidates tied the game up at 2. celebrate. literally in the 3rd in the shark get a feel. start the 2 one break from with >> it's taken on a 10 or so. you see what they do. they're but high of a up at 3 veterans. 11. go with last one. but then the challenges. howard, a shark to the and of course, the sharks they held on. but 90 seconds left to go. and adam lowry was next. a live shot there for about the call. one 13 left and it proved to be the game winner, the shark. they hung so they really in. but they lose in the in. 43 the final to mabel 1 million we're going stand for. they were looking for their 3rd straight win hosting merrimack. let's go through the 1st half right here. word stanford up by 6 all diet sellers from date with that story. plus to that with 19 points on the night, way. >

. >> but you think about like kodak, eastman kodak, somebody internally invented the digital camera andr detriment. >> right. cannibalize your own business. >> in terms of the capital base, gm had to be able to develop something so sophisticated versus the mega -- the behemoth tech companies in a position. it's a small part of their, you know, resources toothsds it. who has the talent to do the insular -- >> if you remember the other conundrum you did have shareholders who were screaming -- >> you got to get into this. >> if you don't get into this you'll be left behind. by the way, some, you could argue, that was a push for evs. a lot of these automakers were being pushed by the shareholder base that was saying, hey, look at tesla over here. what are you guys doing? >> that might not work either. >> we'll see. >> if someone wants an ev they might buy tesla. >> it's easier to make these decisions what was smart and what wasn't in the aftermath. >> ice cars for the next 15 years will probably be the dominant -- >> they're begging us -- >> they are. >> we have to get to the futures which

down one zone when the second period sharks on the attack here and celebrating make the pass from the kodak highlights the folly in front for the tying goal. it was the 13th of the season filling second now and the jets. they lead to the one shot for the power play a celebrated. it takes the pass is right there and can with a bat candidates tied the game up at 2, a pace was celebrated. literally from 4 in the 3rd in the shark get a feel just started to one break from >>on the 10 or so you see what they do. they're but it's time make up at 3 veterans. 11 with last one. but the midgett palin, just howard's a shark. well to be and of course, the sharks they held on. but 90 seconds left to go. and adam lowry, actually the start next at their probe of the star paul. just one 13 live in. proved to be the game where the law so that silly in, but they lose in the 43 the final budget. this they might have found a remedy in the newly acquired guard dennis schroder will that offense of revenue they're looking for. we're talking about the warriors at this point. now. >>schroder is actually averaging 18

he's having problems conveying to his students now that donald trump pardoned a number of artists, kodaklack, and they perceive that as meaning i can now commit crimes and just get a pardon. and he has to debunk that idea and convey that no, you are not the kind of person that is going to get a pardon. this whole conversation we are having, the concern is we might shift to an environment where lawlessness is more accepted across the country on many levels. it is starting at the top and will trickle down. at the same time, people want to see more toughness on crime. we will just have to see where that kind of chaos lands. host: before president trump left office at the end or the beginning of 2021, there was reporting that he was possibly looking at pardoning himself. what is our current understanding of somebody's ability to do that, and then to kathleen's point about the felony convictions he has, would he be able to pardoned himself in those cases or other cases like these georgia election interference or his impeachment? guest: so on the self pardon, there is no law on whether a presi

he's having problems conveying to his students now that donald trump pardoned a number of artists, kodaklack, and they perceive that as meaning i can now commit crimes and just get a pardon. and he has to debunk that idea and convey that no, you are not the kind of person that is going to get a pardon. this whole conversation we are having, the concern is we might shift to an environment where lawlessness is more accepted across the country on many levels. it is starting at the top and will trickle down. at the same time, people want to see more toughness on crime. we will just have to see where that kind of chaos lands. host: before president trump left office at the end or the beginning of 2021, there was reporting that he was possibly looking at pardoning himself. what is our current understanding of somebody's ability to do that, and then to kathleen's point about the felony convictions he has, would he be able to pardoned himself in those cases or other cases like these georgia election interference or his impeachment? guest: so on the self pardon, there is no law on whether a presi