>> i think professor kohn put his finger on it. that there is a tradition which we abandoned in the wake of the vietnam war. and especially since the 190s of skepticism about military institutions and military power. certainly we have an obligation to support the troops, in particular we have anoblition to support the troops when they're committed to a war. but supporting the troops is not inconsistent with asking hard and critical questions about the way wars are being conducted and what we are getting in return for the vast investment of blood and treasure. >> woodruff: finally, professor kohn, how do you see the effect on the military going forward and getting all this in some balance? >> well, i think it joins another stream of thought and discussion in public about the way in which we develop our senior military leadership. are we choosing the right people on the right criteria? i don't think there's any question that we don't want people violating the trust of the american people and that goes in their personal lives, too. bu

michel kohn if we get this stuff right, isn't directed just making us feel good or you gain ground in a competitive environment against china? >> we asked them to gain greater i want to come back, we have will strengthen america. with strength in things all the other countries die for. higher education, entrepreneurial climate of science and technology, enormous dynamism in this country. we have a lot of strengths. but what we've done is we've allowed a bunch of sort of unnecessary costs of of doing business to grow up and creep up. by in action basically. at the same time as all these are the country, and, of course, i work around the world on this topic, all the other countries have task forces of national leaders that work every day to drive down the cost of doing business and making infrastructure better and make better airports and make better at taking occasions make it simpler to do business. so what's happened is we've sort of taken for granted, we had these great strength. look at us, we're wonderful. we've not been able to make progress on the basics. we are not talking abou