ronnie zamora's lawyer said he had tv intoxication from watching violent shows like kojak. and that's why he shot his elderly neighbor. the jury didn't buy that and convicted him. this is the strangest defense of all. a woman wanted in a string of defendants who claimed the movie "matrix" turned them into murderers. but the twinkie-esk matrix defense jury found her not guilty by reason of insanity. i think, walter, if your client gets off, this is really going to be a watershed moment and going to set one for the record books here. >> again, this is very different. those people said they did the act. they had an excuse. this is a case where we say the act was not committed. very different. >> i actually think it's also -- i mean, people who are overweight should be offended by this. i mean, to say he couldn't go up four steps? i personally -- my father is overweight and has diabetes and all those things. and i think if he was vengeful and angry, that could happen. i mean, i just think it's offensive to people who are overweight, who are -- who still could be healthy and sti