>> host: agent konrad motyka any response? >> caller: i think the government is saying go ahead congress and take a look at this and make your updates but please keep our concerns uppermost and let's ensure that we don't create an impediment to an investigation while the update this and taken to her counter digital age. >> host: konrad motyka is this a conversation that you and other fbi agents have regularly about e-mail? >> caller: not from a philosophical perspective. to be honest we are more focused on the practical aspects. the practical aspects if the instructions are to obtain a warned that is where the instructions go in the investigation. obviously we carry out the instructions of the government and the policies of the government and that is what we follow. >> host: one final question from a reporter. >> guest: i wanted to get a response to something that agent konrad motyka brought up. there's there is a distinction in his mind what civil agent should be able to obtain and a criminal investigations of its antitrust o

. >> host: konrad motyka, final word from you. >> guest: yes. i think my final word is fbi as a whole have enough work to do based on the threats they face that they really don't devote any time whatsoever to frivolous, simply looking or attempting to look at people's e-mails. we're not even allowed to do that. we can't do that under present policy, and we don't do it. >> host: thank you for your time today, conrad motyka. laura murphy, what did you hear from him? >> guest: well, i heard an overgeneralization about their procedures. we know, for example, that the fbi has placed certain communities under surveillance; mosques, houses of worship, interest groups like the russian community in new york, the chinese community in new york, and they have broad, broad surveillance powers. and we think that those, that surveillance goes beyond the fourth amendment. so i don't know that there's always a criminal predicate. in fact, i'm sure there is not always a criminal predicate before the fbi opens an investigation or seeks information that is, that mo