konstantin kilimnik speaks both as well as fluent english. and so paul manafort quickly found him to be an indispensable part of his operation in ukraine. manafort would describe kilimnik as "my russian brain." he was widely viewed as paul manafort's alter ego in the former soviet union. special counsel's indictments thus far have spelled out how paul manafort's consulting business in the former soviet union, it took millions of dollars a year from pro-russian political interests. ultimately, he branched out, not just from -- branched out beyond politics into doing business dealings in the region as well, including some attempted business partnerships with a somewhat terrifying russian oligarch who is close to vladimir putin and who famously cannot get a visa to visit the united states because of his alleged ties to organized crime. according to multiple civil lawsuits about their failed business dealings, paul manafort ended up owing that guy, oleg deripaska, many millions of dollars. i don't know any of the people involved here personally, b

we have these two extra charges for manafort, two charges for konstantin kilimnik.this comes as robert mueller earlier in the week was calling for the bail conditions to be changed as well. laura: rajini vaidyanathan,th ks sous much for joining . in other news, british-based group monitori the civil war ineyria says 38 civilians w killed in an overnight airstrike in idlib. the observatory for humiv rights sayschildren were among the dead, and the attack was likely to of been carried out by russian jets. austria's right-wing government has announced what it is calling a crackdown on political islam. seven mosques will be shut down and imams will be expelled. investigations includes inquiries into turkish-backed mosques. hundreds of problem of anti-islam -- the turks have called the move anti-islam and racist. today, fans and friends are mourning the death of anthy urdain. the celebrity chef was found dead in his hotel room. many were shocked that he woulde is own life. it is the second high-profile suicide this week. after the death of kate spade on tuesday. n from n

charges were also brought against one of his associates konstantin kilimnik.n intelligence. among the charges are conspiracy to obstruct justice. with more, here's rajini vaidyanathan. today in the court in washington, dc a 32 page indictment was filed. let's wind back— we know that paul manafort already faces a number of charges relating to his work as a lobbyist on behalf of the ukrainian government. those early charges include conspiracy to launder money and making false statements. he is awaiting trial for that. these two new charges accuse him of tampering with witnesses, trying to get them to change their statements. the two new charges that have been added to the existing charge sheet is conspiracy to obstructjustice and obstruction ofjustice. one of his associates, someone called konstantin kilimnik, said to be his right—hand man in ukraine has also been charged with those two charges. he is said to have resided in moscow, there are rumours that he may have been linked to the russian intelligence, although that has not been confirmed. so right now we h

and this individual, konstantin kilimnik, is a russian army-trained linguist. he was doing pro-russian government propaganda in ukraine for the yanukovych regime. you'd have to believe it's an entire coincidence that he would be a private actor, a russian national living in ukraine, living in kiev, but actually having no ties to the russian government, yet doing their bidding. obviously nobody believes that and peopleo believthat he has a russian government nexus. >> so what is it alleged, jeremy, that he was doing in our country, especially in and around our presidential election? >> well, if there is a -- if there is an effort by manafort and a russian government official to advance pro-russian propaganda, to advance the russian government's view of policy and to inject themselves into politics, that's precisely what they were doing during the 2016 campaign. and it shows an element of sophistication, an element of capability, an element of expertise by paul manafort with this russian government official in doing exactly that. and there's a possibility that's

today robert mueller also indicted konstantin kilimnik. these charges are related to the charges manafort is facing regarding his foreign lobbying work before he joined the trump campaign. and breaking tonight the legal team has responded to these charges. from a scant record the special counsel conjures a sinister plot to corruptly persuade two of mr. manafort's former business associates to perjure themselves in the upcoming trial in september. the new charges should be seen for what it is, an attempt to derail the modified conditions of rae lease at the 11th hour. there's no reason to believe the newest charge has increased the flight risk. joining us now barbara mcquade, an msnbc legal contributor. and matt miller former spokesman for attorney general eric holder. barbara, first to you in this argument that manafort's lawyers are trying to make, they're trying to say not only is there very little evidence that mueller's team has produced, a couple text messages that were short text messages but also in talking about or filing this it c

that's konstantin kilimnik. he is an individual that worked with paul manafort in ukraine. he is known as a kind of political fixer, political ideologue in that part of the world. he's also somebody that the u.s. government has linked with russian intelligence, somebody that paul manafort has done business with for a significant period of time. here's what's new today. there's been two counts of obstruction of justice. one count each -- obstruction of justice, and another count of conspiracy to obstruct justice. this goes to the witness tampering allegations that we first heard about earlier this week in that paul manafort and konstantin kilimnik, according to this indictment, did conspire to influence, delay and prevent the testimony of several people that they had done business with as part of this pro-ukrainian lobbying effort that had been going on several years ago. so the charges -- new charges today relate to that. it is the first time that we are seeing konstantin kilimnik being named in robert mueller's papers. in addition to that, paul manafort is also going to be

year and happened in 2016, which was that paul manafort during the election was e-mailing with konstantin kilimnik, asking him to connect him with the russian oligarch, deripaska, how can we get him to repay my debts. he has all sorts of connections, particularly with oleg deripaska. of course kilimnik is also accused of being part of this big massive money laundering experience that paul manafort and rick gates are accused of engaging in over the last decade. so kilimnik was manafort's right-hand man, along with rick gates and now manafort is looking like he's increasingly isolated. kilimnik is in moscow. doesn't look like he's going to be extradited to the united states any time soon, if ever and gates has flipped and the two journalists that manafort reached out to trying to get them to change their testimony, the witness tampering charge that we saw mueller bring against manafort who went directly to prosecutors -- or went directly to the fbi and said paul manafort is reaching out to us, we don't want anything to do with this. so you have manafort now increasingly on his own and he is particul

he and a former aide, konstantin kilimnik, are accused of obstructing justice by tampering with witnesseshas disputed the charges, but mr kilimink has yet to respond. with more, here's the bbc‘s peter bowes. this is a sign that the special counsel, mr mueller is determined to exert maximum legal pressure on mr manafort. two new charges, obstruction of justice manafort. two new charges, obstruction ofjustice and conspiracy to obstruct justice, obstruction ofjustice and conspiracy to obstructjustice, and they stem from allegation is that we had about earlier in the week, that he had attempted allegedly to tamper with witnesses, contacting them using their mobile phones and encrypt the messaging services. the allegation being that he was attempting to influence their testimony at any future trial. the second person, konstantin kilimnik, is facing the same obstruction charges, he is said to be a long—time associate of mr manafort, described as some as a right—hand man in ukraine. and perhaps, according to prosecutors, with connections to russian intelligence. as far as connections to russian

a second person, konstantin kilimnik, is facing the same obstruction charges.e is said to bea same obstruction charges. he is said to be a long—time associate of mr manafort, described by some as a right—hand man in ukraine, and perhaps, according to prosecutors, with connections with russian intelligence. as far as mr manafort is concerned, he's facing a string of crime charges to do with financial affairs and he is likely to be in court again at the end of next week, not to face trial, but for a judge to look at the conditions of his bail. those conditions of his bail. those conditions could be tightened or bale could be revoked altogether, which would mean that he would go to jail to wait for his trial ash bail. peter, thank you. —— bail. guatemala has asked for more aid from the international community after the volcanic eruption, which has claimed more than 100 lives. the volcano, 50km west of the capital, exploded last sunday. a state of emergency is in place, with rescue efforts hampered by bad weather. andrew plant reports. more evacuations as the fuego

that associate, russian citizen konstantin kilimnik was also indicted today. now the 20th person to be charged by the special counsel. in a court filing earlier this week mueller alleged that many of the and kilimnik attempt attempted to tacher with witness in an attempt to cover up for their work in a pro-russian party in ukraine. the intended cover-up continued thou to this past april according to mueller. manafort, who is now under house arrest could end up spending the rest of the summer in jail before going to jail. kilimnik has disappeared, fleeing where else, but to russia. for more on the significance of these new charges by the special counsel i'm joined by harry san deck and ken. describe the two men's relationship for us. >> kilimnik, he goes by kk with friend started with manafort back in 2005. he was recruited from the international republican institute's moscow office, where he had been fired, actually, depending on who you listen to because of suspected ties to russian intelligence even back then. but when he started with manafort, he actually s

and one of the people he was accused of doing that with is konstantin kilimnik. he's a russian citizen and believed to be living either in russia or ukraine. according to the government, he is somebody who is closely associated with russian intelligence. he's the 20th person now charged in this investigation, erica. >> joining me now to discuss, former justice department prosecutor, joe, what's your take on these two new charges? >> erica, this is like being in a hole and then continuing to dig rather than stop digging. the worst thing you can do when you're out on bail and awaiting trial is to tamper with witnesses. it's one thing to explain your story. mr. manafort can say what happened was years ago but this is something that happened within the last few months allegedly. it's going to be difficult to stand in front of a judge and ask to be out on jail when -- >> and he's under house arrest. he's has not one but two it also bolsles the mind that someone doesn't say trust down the, i always tell defendants, don't be talking to the witnesses, we'll reach out to

of justice and conspiracy to obstruct justice and those same charges were -- levied against konstantin kilimniks are watching this. and kilimnik has suspected tied to russian intelligence services. how does he fit and how does all of this fit into the mueller investigation? >> well first off, i think we learned today that paul manafort's disregard for the rule of law knows no bounds, regardless of how many ankle bracelets he's wearing and the fact that he's been indicted for a second time along with kilimnik tells us there is one more potential touch point with russian intelligence. and he's denied the claims and we don't yet have any information from the fbi directly linking him to russian intelligence. but we do know that there are multiple touch points between members of the campaign and the gru, the fsb and various parts of the russian government and my question from a national security perspective is whether the fbi now comes back and does have more information about kilimnik's direct ties with russian intelligence. >> and he denies any ties with russian -- and these are allegations. nothi

tell me about -- konstantin kilimnik. >> the first time the mueller team is naming him and bringing chargesruction of justice, conspiracy to obstruct justice. he's 48 and lives in moscow. he worked with paul manafort, including on these efforts to do lobbying work for ukrainian politicians that got paul manafort in the hot seat but the other reason the team is so interested in him is they say he has tied to russian intelligence. so they say this is someone paul manafort has worked with in the past and if prosecutors are correcting what they're alleging, someone paul manafort is still in touch with even as the proceedings are ongoing. it is worth noting even though paul manafort's business associate flipped and pleaded guilty, paul manafort has maintained his innocence and said he will take this to trial. >> and stay right here. i want to bring in phil mudd to talk about this. phil, what do you make of these new charges? >> i think there is a couple of things to make of them. first, i double down on what i've said to you before, i cannot believe manafort is ever going to go into a court with

what do today's indictments against paul manafort and konstantin kilimnik mean? joyce can you hear us? joyce can't hear us. let me ask you to pick up the same question, david chris. what are these charges from -- against paul manafort mean for the special counsel investigation? >> well, the first thing they mean is that paul manafort is in deep trouble and it's getting deeper. these two new charges that have been added -- obstruction of justice and conspiracy to obstruct justice are as you said based on the same facts that were used by mueller to try to revoke his bail so to put him in jail pending trial and that's because he and kilimnik reached out to somes beens in europe and allegedly tried to suborn perjury to try to get them to lie in a way that would be favorable to manafort. so he's not doing himself favors in the way he's been behaving since he came under indictment. >> jonathan lemire, what's so amazing to me is that their misconduct is ongoing. i read through the indictment when it came out. these are for crimes committed between february and april of

while he was out under house arrest filing new obstruction of charges against manafort against konstantin kilimnik, who is believed to have ties to russian intelligence. the judge sent manafort to jail to await his two upcoming trials on multiple counts of conspiracy and fraud among other charges. though he did get to ditch his two ankle monitors. quite the record for a campaign whose unofficial slogan chanted was lock her up. let's review. the top national security advisor who let the chance the at the convention has been cooperating with investigators and pled guilty. foreign policy adviser pleaded guilty to a felony, agreed to cooperate. the deputy campaign chairman pleaded guilty to a felony. he has been cooperating. now the chairman who ran the show during a crucial period of the campaign, the guy on top of the entire thing is behind bars after being indicted on numerous charges going out on bail and having his bail revoked. it is simply the most criminal group of people surrounding a sitting president since richard nixon. when all is said and done, it may turn out to be much worse. according

he and former aide, konstantin kilimnik are accused of obstructing justice by tampering with witnesses. manafort h disputed the charges but mr. kilimnik y h to spontaneous respond. re from our north american correspondent. peter, explain the significance of these latest developments. >> it shows that robert muller is certainlyng put maximum pressure on mr. manafort, donald trump's former campaign manager. trux ditional charges, on of justice. these stem from chargese heard about earlier in t week,hat he had attempted to essentially tamper with witnesses, using mobile phone and a device, an application that was used to try to get to people that wod give evidence of his future -- at his future trial. as you say, he has denied these allegations.e th second person who have been -- who has beenge ch has made no statement. he is said to be mr. manafort's right-hand man in ukraine and said to have connections with russian intelligence. mr. manafort is due back in court at the end of next week when a judge will consider his conditions of bail and there isi a plity that those conditions will be

remember when he tried to ghostwrite that op-ed with konstantin kilimnik. well, konstantin kilimnik is in the superseding indictment that he's alleged to have reached out to alleged witness tamper. this isn't like it's a first offense. she really didn't have another choice, i believe. >> michael schmidt, from the bigger picture standpoint here legally, it's the question of the mueller investigation where this all kind of emerges from. how does this development with paul manafort today fit into that broader picture of the mueller investigation and his role in that? >> well, i guess what we're going to find out here is whether paul manafort has something to offer or if he really thinks he's been wrongfully charged and wants to go to trial. mueller is trying to put as much pressure on manafort as possible to get him to plead. he's been one of the few people to be charged and not do that. the deputy campaign chairman has pled. the former national security adviser has pled. but manafort has held out. he has said, look, i have nothing to give the government. i ha

he and a former aide — konstantin kilimnik — are accused of obstructing justice by tampering with witnesseshas disputed the charges, but mr kilimink has yet to respond. let's get more form our north america correspondent peter bowes. explained the significance of the latest developments. the charges showed that robert mueller is putting maximum pressure on paul manafort, the former campaign manager. two additional charges: obstruction of justice and conspiracy to obstruct justice. these stem from charges that we heard about earlier this week that heard about earlier this week that he had attempted to essentially tamper with witnesses, using a mobile phone and a device, an application that was used to try to get to people that would give evidence at his future trial. as you say, he has denied these allegations. the second person who has been charged has made no response. he is said to be paul ma nafort‘s response. he is said to be paul manafort‘s right—hand man in the ukraine. and for prosecutors to have connections with russian intelligence. as far as paul ma nafort intelligence. as far as

manafort and his russian business partner konstantin kilimnik allegedly asked european contacts to testifyt their lobbying work did not take place in the u.s. judge amy berman jackson told manafort's attorney, "this is not middle school. i can't take his cell phone. i have no appetite for this." manafort will now remain in jail until his trial concludes later this year. he currently faces dozens of charges, including financial fraud, money laundering, and false statements. >> reporter: mr. president, have you spoken with paul manafort? speaking with reporters earlier in the day, the president defends his former campaign chairman. >> they went back 12 years to get things that he did 12 years ago? >> reporter: manafort served as campaign chairman for five months, including during the hepublican convention. but mr. trump today downplayed manafort's role in the campaign. >> you know, paul manafort worked for me for a very short oriod of time. at worked for me, what, 49 days or something? a very short period of time. >> reporter: after manafort was ftnt to jail, the president tweeted, "wow, wha

counts of obstruction ofjustice and conspiracy to obstructjustice against both mr manafort and konstantin kilimniknik has been publicly named. the international criminal court has overturned the war crimes conviction of the former congolese vice—president jean—pierre bemba. he was also acquitted of crimes against humanity. in 2016, mr bemba was given an 18—year sentence for atrocities committed by his forces in the central african republic, including rape and murder. the judges ruled that he should not have been held liable for crimes committed by his troops in a foreign country. football's world governing body fifa has suspended ghana's top football official after he was seen on camera accepting a cash gift from someone pretending to be a businessman. kwesi nyantakyi was a target in a two—year undercover investigation by a ghanaian journalist, anas arameyew anas. his film has left ghanaian football in turmoil. peter okwoche reports. these are the images that have sullied kwesi nya nta kyi's reputation. it's a huge fall from grace for the second most powerful man in african football. his campaign

. >> the other thing, the other piece of significance is this guy konstantin kilimnik.orked with paul manafort in ukraine from 2005 through 2016 through the presidential election and he is assessed, as the mueller team used, assessed to have ties to russian intelligence. so, the significance of this, even if paul manafort does not end up having his pretrial release revoked and does not end up going to jail and even if constantine kilimnik -- >> charges and trial aside. >> right. they're saying this long-time associate of paul manafort has ties to russian intelligence. the big -- >> so, the right hand guy of donald trump's campaign chairman is potentially a russian agent. >> that's exactly right. and it comes at a time when manafort, manafort's lawyers, donald trump and his allies are making this case that the special counsel has extended far beyond his remit of investigating russian meddling into the presidential election by looking at manafort and other allies and what they did years ago. well, here is mueller saying, actually, these two things do kind of connect. >> r

doing this because this is not the first thyme prosecutors have called him out for working with konstantin kilimnik since his indictment. in fact, they monitored some communications between manafort and kilimnik to try to place an op-ed under a ukrainian's politicians name in the english language newspaper in ukraine, essentially trying to spin manafort's work on behalf of yanukovych as somehow pro western instead of pro-russian. they called him out on that and said this is a violation of the judge's order you not try to judge this case in the press. after that, which occurred last year, there were people around manafort saying knock it off. you don't want to be working with kk anymore. he's already on the radar. he's long been on the radar of u.s. intelligence. here are you giving the special counsel ammunition for his case against you. obviously manafort ignored that advice. >> have you ever had as a prosecutor a situation where you have a person out on supervised release engaging in this kind of activity? >> absolutely. it does happen. it seems crazy. it may be crazy. >> you've got imagine, if y

his description matches the russian manager of paul manafort's lobbying office in kiev, named konstantin kilimnikally? "kill-'em-nik"? if you're a russian operative, you might want to go by something less suspicious. maybe try "sergey murderov." ( laughter ) so-- ( applause ) this is sergey murderov. da! flaw! ♪ ♪ thank you. thank you. so my question is, is it collusion yet? is this collusion at this point? gates was trump's deputy campaign chairman, who stayed on through the inauguration, knowingly met with a russian spy in the months leading up the election. what more evidence do we need, donald trump in a t-shirt saying, "i colluded with the russians, and all i got was this lousy t-shirt, and the presidency"? ( cheers and applause ) i would like that. i would like that t-shirt. >> jon: yeah! >> stephen: i'd like a copy of that. >> jon: i'd wear that.en: all c, all cotton. gotta breathe. >> jon: yeah. >> stephen: so, the president almost definitely colluded with russia, but there's equally important news out there. tiffany haddish said someone bit beyonce. ( laughter ) yeah, yeah, this is serio

his name, konstantin kilimnik. he keeps a very low profile.esearchers have tried to find reliable photos of him. there are very few on the internet. he served as a fixer for trump's campaign aides and it was lied about this man, kilimnik that led to mueller jailing that dutch lawyer in london. if you remember that. he acted as a go between for putin and oleg. mueller is investigating the changes that are made to help russia in the 2016 gop platform and this man allegedly bragged about pulling that off but denied any links to russian intelligence. >> if there had been any questions about my reel allegiance, he would have thrown me out of this administration. i have my own various trump rez evasions but his being prorussian, i was working with manafort. >> as experienced as you are in the region, how significant is it to see this russian indicted? >> well, first, ari, i don't know him. i want to be clear about that. i have never met him. i used to follow manafort, and i would see him, his operations in ukraine -- >> ambassador, we could go one-o

and within a day or two of that sent an e-mail to the man who has subsequently been indicted konstantin kilimnik to say has russia oligarch seen this and how do we use this to get made whole. >> that's his importance it the entire saga is he joined the campaign. he was desperate really. he was in a lot of debt. he was roughly 17 million in debt to pro-russian interests. sloobs he got to the campaign, he was trying to figure out a way to levering and his high level campaign position in audio to repay the debts. we have the e-mails and have seen those conversations had he with kilimnik who has also been indicted for allegedly beak a co-conspirator with paul manafort to obstruct justice. he put it in black and white, how can i get whole. >> let's be clear. i have taken a position running the campaign of one of the two major party presidential nominees in america. how can i use that position for which i'm not being compensated to make money? please tell me my ukrainian buddy suspected to be a russian intelligence asset. >> paul manafort had an extreme incentive here. he had to make it so he was givi

let's go to paul manafort, the new superseding indictment and the one against konstantin kilimnik asto you about where robert mueller's investigation might be headed and dovetail for me if you would that with paul manafort's bail that he's on and what we saw paul manafort do last week? >> it's very much related. i would say first of all that mueller has evidence. he's has probable cause. he's not on a fishing expedition. he's proceeding in a very logical, good way. one of the things that all prosecutors and judges take very seriously is tampering with witnesses. and the fact that he indicted him for that as opposed to just trying to get the bail revoked and have him jailed while he's pending -- and this is the second time he's done something that violates his bail. he wrote an op-ed he shouldn't have written. he can't say that he didn't get fair warning. and any lawyer worth his salt would have said to him can you not talk to anybody involved in this case, anybody that had anything to do with ukraine, don't talk to them. he called people. he texted. that's so wrong. it's so obviously

and the two new charges against both paul manafort and konstantine kilimnik are new charges in addition to the five that manafort already faces here in washington. years before paul manafort was hired to run the trump campaign, he was actually working for the ukrainian government, the pro-russian at the time ukrainian government. and that's where all his problems really stem from in these indielts. he also faces similar charges in virginia. he's supposed to be on trial. he's scheduled to go on trial in virginia and later this year here in washington. these are new charges that really add to the pressure to paul manafort and whether or not he's going to strike a deal with prosecutors, which is what would really be the way for him to get out of this and perhaps provide evidence that the special counsel needs or wants against other people that are under investigation. obviously the big person there that everybody thinks about is whether or not there's information that paul manafort has against other people inside the trump campaign, perhaps against the president himself. we do not know the

robert mueller indicted paul manafort and konstantin kilimnik.caroline policy. and they came from the probe overall, what happens with manafort's case now? >> well, this is a pretty big deal, quite frankly, alex, we could see paul manafort remanded to federal custody at his court hearing next week. federal judges take witness tampering which is what he's been reindicted with. the supersedeas indictment was just filed. and charged with tampering and using apps and ways of getting to witnesses in the underlying investigations to his violations and potentially lobbying on behalf of the united states as an agent. he's attempting to influence those witnesses and that is seen as a crime on the criminal justice system. as a crime on the court. so, in the department of justice, employees take those things very seriously. so, he could be headed back -- or headed to jail, alex. it's a big deal. >> can you figure out why he would do this? what was he thinking? >> i told natasha bertan that you had on in your previous house of the atlantic, i actually see th

is in the manafort case it is a superseding indictment against one of manafort's associates, konstantin kilimnikname manafort as well. is another superseding indictment. we are working on getting more information about that. >>> in the meantime, it is 11:00 a.m. out west and 2:00 p.m. in quebec city where president trump is walking into a meeting with some of his closest allies dukes up. any minute now he'll join the rest of the g7 leaders, what they call a "family photo." a snapshot though of a dysfunctional family right now. a familyha

he sent that e-mail to konstantin kilimnik who worked for manafort in ukraine. he has since been indicted by mueller and fled to russia. the person they're apparently trying to get whole with was this guy, russian oligarch oleg deripaska, one of russia's richest man with close ties to the kremlin. yesterday a newly unsealed filing revealed that deripaska had loaned 10 million bucks to a manafort business. $10 million. which he presumably wanted back. so just to be absolutely clear, the guy who was running donald trump's campaign during the summer when he was running it for free and the russians were sab tanging the election also just happened to be in debt $10 million to russian oligarch with close ties to putin at the very same time that vladimir putin and his government were working to get trump elected president. for the latest on the investigation, contributor natasha bertrand covering national security and russia investigation and michael isikoff, chief investigative correspondent at yahoo news, co-author of russian roulette". michael, it was always unclear

manafort and his long-time associate with russia intelligence ties konstantin kilimnik have been chargedith two new counts of obstruction of justice and conspiracy to obstruct accused of knowingly to corruptly persuade another person with attempt to influence, delay and prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding. sounds like tampering. >> it sounds also like sneshl counsel mueller has a bad attitude about trying to interfere with the process. >> he's not the only one, too. >> judges take that more seriously than a lot of prosecutors. so what that means is sometimes we think what if there's only evidence of obstruction, not evidence of collusion. >> only evidence of obstruction. >> again, there's been a question what mueller would do. this sends a signal he would bring a case if it's just obstruction. >> on the other side of the fight, this is of course, stormy daniels. why do you think rudy is going out there so far on a limb trashing this woman? president trump told report rowers he's considering -- just a minute. president trump asked by reporters if he inspired rudy

i don't know exactly what konstantin kilimnik, the russian ukrainian indicted in this new filing. i think we're going to see more of this kind of hard push tactics on paul manafort because he is not declaring -- not pleading guilty and refusing to give information that doesn't exist on president trump's alleged collusion with russia. >> how do you know it doesn't exist why would the special counsel. >> as far as i know it doesn't exist. >> that's a difference very different. >> as far as i know it doesn't exist. but i don't believe -- i understand. but i don't believe -- i think paul's stuck in a bad spot just like papadopoulos is snuck a bad spot some of the other guys. they don't have anything to give. >> we don't know that. >> the president and none of the men and women around him -- i don't believe they do because i was on the inside and i heard the communications. >> words matter. and when you don't fuel the misperception of known fact with how you feel about things you're free to have feels. >> but we also know at this point we know of know evidence of collusion between the

special counsel robert mueller also indicted konstantin kilimnik, former associate of paul manafort.hese charges are related to the charges manafort is facing regarding his foreign lobbying work before he joined the trump campaign. and breaking tonight, the manafort legal team has just responded to these new charges in a filing which reads in part, from a scant record the special counsel conjures a sinister plot to corruptly persuade two of mr. manafort's former business associates to perjure themselves in the upcoming trial in september. the new charges of witness tampering made by the special counsel should be seen for what it is, an attempt to fee rail the modified conditions of release at the 11th hour. there's no reason to believe the latest charge has somehow increased the risk of flight in this case. joining us now barbara mcquade, former federal prosecutor, now professor of law at the university of michigan, an msnbc legal contributor. and matt miller former spokesman for attorney general eric holder. and msnbc contributor. barbara, first to you, in this argument that manafor