i know that commissioner konstin, you won't be here, right? but if it's okay with everybody i will just -- we'll keep that date unless there's objections. seeing none. >> clerk: thank you. any public comment on item 4a and b? seeing none, we'll move on to item 5. discussion and possible action to make recommendations with current memberships and tomorrows to expire november 1, 2021, and november 1, 2022. >> president mccarthy: so commissioner lee or warshell, who will give the update on that? commissioner lee, you're ready. >> commissioner lee: commissioner moss and commissioner warshell and i met -- what was that, last week? and the nomination committee and we reviewed the current members of the access appeal commission and decided to reappoint all four members who had seats expired or will be expiring this year back on to the commission. and that would be commissioner.r walter park, and learner, and alice brown, and william scott-ellsworth. >> i believe that some of our members may be here. >> commissioner lee: i think that we need to recomm

. >> clerk: commissioner konstin. >> here. >> clerk: commissioner lee. >> here. >> clerk: commissionerhell. >> here. >> clerk: we have a quorum. next item is item 2, president's announcements. >> president mccarthy: good morning, and welcome to the october 17,