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larry: steve kind s koonin. so, steve, welcome back.sil f fuels still 80% of total world energy. >> we're spending a lot of money not having much impact and causing a lot of disruption as we try to displace fossil fuels it is not working, emissions aral ouare at all-time high, world needs energy, renewables are not the way to get it. larry: if 80% of world power comes from fossil fuel is this bad. >> if bluff that co2 -- if you believe that c02 will break climate. >> with facts, you are a fact driven guy is that a bad thing. >> i think in terms of overall human welfare it is wonderful, fossil fuels are least expensive and most reliable way for people to get energy they need and world needs more for most people to develop. larry: what don't we know after this whole long period of climate his tearia. what don't we know, what do we know? you spend a lot of time with that, i read first edition of unsettled. >> we don't know is the overall state of the oceans. very difficult to observe it is where climate happens, we have about 10 year's wor

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professor koonin, thank you. >>> time for breaking economic data.sing starts month of may. a big miss here. looking for a number around 1.37 million. 1 million 277,000. 1 million 277,000. that is the lightest going back to june of 2020. on the permit side, well, on the permit side we were looking for a number around 1.45 million. we end up with another miss at 1 million 386,000. 1 million 386,000 is the lightest level going back. also to june of 2020. initial jobless claims. 238,000. that's from a slightly revised 243,000. call it down 5,000, shall we? and 238,000 is the lightest level of just going back to the last week in may, because the rearview mirror of 243,000, well, that was the largest number going back to august of '23. now, let's look at continuing claims. 1 million 828,000. that's a little higher than expected. it follow as slightly revised 1 million 813,000, and that is the biggest number actually interesting. that's the biggest number. we have to go way back leer. th back here. biggest number since -- wow. really is something. november