. >> koop believed in life, against abortion, but firmly determined to save people dying from aids. > part of any health or hygiene program. we can't afford to side step discussions about sexual practices, heterosexual and homosexual. >> let's be honest with ourselves, aids information cannot be value neutral. after all, when it comes to preventing aids, don't medicine and morality teach the same lessons. >> this was a nightmare for the administration. what they wanted was to say abstain, not how to do it safely, just don't do it. >> i think abstinence has been lacking in much of the education. >> he said whatever you think of the sexuality, it is irresponsible not to share what we know about the way to act on your sexual desires safely. >> we are talking about the surgeon general, bob, where is he in this administration now where here he is -- >> isolated i think. >> here he is the surgeon general, chief health officer. >> he is very outspoken, goes off, does his own thing. he at one point wanted to send ex-ples it literature to every household in america. they stopped him fast on th

and then when i took office as a central command, commander, it was just a month before the koop in gaza. it was the anti- -- a month after i entered office in the central command hamas extend intifada from gaza shooting people, throwing them from buildings, humiliating them. the moment after we set in our headquarters and i talk to my men, look, there's an opportunity to stop -- i can tell you the -- then we started to cooperate with the i call them the new palestinians because the palestinians i met in 2007 were very different from the palestinians that i met in 1996-1997. i think that they learned the lesson of the second intifada. i think the heads of security peace even d to though, and i can tell you they have a lot of reasons, many reasons to be unhappy with the way that we treat them. but still they do what they need to do. so i believe that's the answer. i believe we are in a unique time with the israeli people and i don't want the talk about how it's a window but we have to do something about it. >> that's a very powerful message. especially the realization and aftermath of the