radicalization of young men by presenting islam as something that it is not, that is not taught in the koran, that you're still going to have these extremists that'll go out and blow themselves up and threaten stability. you'd love to have your comments on that conclusion. >> senator, i think this really gets at the heart of one of the big ideas out there which is that it takes much more than just military security thrift it takes whole of governments approaches and not just our government, host nation governments and all other partners because indeed you have to get at the conditions that give rise to extremism, to the kind of discontent and so forth and unfulfilled expectations and the rest of all that that can give rise to extremism. and you have to get at the issues of actual education in some cases, which again in some cases creates fertile ground for the planting of extremist seeds as well. and again that takes a very comprehensive approach. it is one that some of our partners in the region have actually done quite well in recent years. if you look at some of the countries in the arabi

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radicalization of young men by presenting islam as something that it is not, that is not thought in the koran, -- thought i -- taught in the kora, that you'll still have these extremists that go out and blow themselves up and threaten stability. i would love to have your comments on that conclusion. >> senator, i think this really gets they heart of the -- one of the big ideas out there, which is it takes much more than just military security activity, it takes whole of governments approaches and not just our government, but host nation governments, all other partners, because indeed, you have to get at the conditions that give rise to extremism, to the kind of discontent and so forth and unfulfilled expectations and hall the rest of that, that can give rise to extremism. and you have to get at the issues of actual education in some cases. which again, in some cases, creates fertile ground for the planting of extremist seeds as well, and again, that takes a very comprehensive approach. it is one that some of our partners in the region have actually done quite well in recent years. if you look

like the verses either is in the koran and they're not. and researchers uncritically repeat something that is factually incorrect is indicative to the degree in which they're ignoring ideological arguments. his claim wasn't true but they are repeating it because he said so which shows they are not actually engaging the religious text that these people are supposed to be debating in the first place. likewise, to get to the saudi arabian program, there were a few quotes from the same book that i mentioned which i thought to be a little bit interesting. one of them -- the saudi arabian program it says presumes that the suspects were abused, lied to, and misled by extremists into trag away from true islam and if the state wants to help prisoners return to the correct path it continues. the counseling program seeks to correct this misunderstanding by reintroducing and re-enforcing the official version of -- the official state version of islam. now, the reason these struck me as being a little bit remarkable is because those who are familiar wit

the verses are either in the koran or not.nd the fact that the researcher has been repeating something that is factually incorrect, to me, is indicative of the degree to which they are ignoring ideological elements. his claim was not true. but instead, researchers are simply repeating it because he said so, which shows they are not engaging the religious texts that these people are not -- are supposed to be debating in the first place. likewise, in the saudi arabian program, there were a few quotes from the same book that i mentioned that turn out to be interesting. one of them in the saudi arabian program, it says -- presumes that the suspects were abused, lied to, and is led by extremists and that the state wants to help prisoners returned to the correct path. it continues, the counseling program seeks to correct this misunderstanding are reintroducing and reinforcing the official state version of islam. the reason these struck me as being a little bit remarkable is that because those who are familiar with the official saudi

he told me a story in the koran, his view of how the immaculate conception, which was different from the story i had learned growing up, and we traded the differences in the stories and sounded to be found it to be a point of common interest and bonding. so, i do think we can leverage that, but i would be a little careful of that in here is why. what about soldiers that are atheist or that or buddhist or humanist or fall outside of the three religions? i think we should be able to bond on our common humanity as well as our religion and maybe that should be the floor that we use to come together and not just religion. >> i am from executive intelligence review. if polls are to be believed the majority or a good percentage of the american people today believe that torture works and that we should use it. and i have seen polls saying that something like 60% of people questioned thought that abdulmutalab in the detroit christmas day bombing so-called, should not have been waterboarded. this is really a dramatic departure from our traditions as a nation, even our military traditions. what

and that's the phrase that begins every chapter in koran. perhaps this is a religion of compassion and mercy. and perhaps we can use that end in interrogation if we understand the culture and quickly leaving stereotypes. and this is what we should be teaching our interrogators. the other thing we could improve on is teaching them law enforcement techniques. we could bring in detectives from nypd our lapd, and teach him how to use things like prisoners dilemma. i was surprised when i arrived in iraq that interrogator stood understand that if you catch to people and asked, you can put them in separate rooms and use the statements to play off each other. anybody ever see the move as a confidential? great scene where they use this technique. you can you every night on law and order or in cis. but interrogators are not exposed to these techniques. and lasting i was is we need to put resources into interrogations. if you go to almost any -- i went to three, four different locations in iraq where we interrogated every single one was this a big inte

and they are holding up their korans because they believe the holy book backs them up. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i will see you next week. stay tuned for "reliable sources." >>> victory and intimidation. is the press boosting the president after his health care win and linking the likes of sarah palin to death threats against democrats? >>> tainted cash. why on earth did abc pay $200,000 to a woman now accused of murdering her daughter? >>> junkie journalism. politico's top editors tastes great, but is it less filling? plus tiger talks, should two sports channels have agreed to five-minute interviews? >>> we all thought the health care story would fade after president obama finally got his hotly disputed bill through congress. on that point, we were wrong. the coverage took a dark turn this week with reports of death threats and vandalism against perhaps a dozen democratic lawmakers. some democrats started arguing that certain republicans were encouraging the threats and violence with their overheated rhetoric about the president and h

it's not, i don't know, misreading of the koran, marxism, totalitarianism acumen of world war i.it's about time, but that doesn't mean we can't reoccupy the higher moral ground and roll back of these areas for government is not playing a constructive role. and that's why i always thought, especially after 1994 when the gop republicans won control of congress, one of the things i think we fail to do was focus on the big things. there are a lot of junk programs in washington, tens of thousands. the focus on the big ones, the corrupt tax code, out of the lobby in washington revolves on the tax code. you get something rid of that. huge game against the leviathan. on social security, when younger people to have their own personal accounts with proper safeguards, huge assaults against the leviathan. health care, same thing. education, same thing. you know, having parental control of education. he won the battle and those four areas: health care, education, tax policy and social security. like ali, we are -- the rest we can deal with. on the federal reserve, that was created on the idea

look at the philosophy of al qaeda and others that it's not mistreated the koran, marxism, totalitarianismcame out of world war i. so bad time. but that doesn't mean we can't be we occupy the high moral ground. and rollback of these areas where government is not playing a constructive role. and that's what i've always thought, especially after 1994 when the gop, republicans won control of congress, one of the things i think we failed to do was focus on the big things. there are a ton of junk programs in washington, tens of thousands. focus on the big ones, the corrupt tax cut, half of the lobby in washington recalls around the tax code. you get rid of that, something like the flat tax, huge game against the leviathan. on social security allowing younger people to have their own personal accounts with proper safeguards. huge assault against the leviathan. health care, same thing. education, same thing. having parental control of education. you win the battle and those four areas, health care, education, tax policy, and social security, by golly, we are with the rest, we can deal with. and t

violent jihad which traces its roots to a number of intellectual scholars who believe the role of the koran as the read it is a very aggressive militaristic conquering approach which the great majority of muslims in my view do not accept that very narrow group is of course led by names like osama bin laden, and they seek to draw support from muslim youth and others. most people reject that. you look a place like afghanistan my guess is a great majority of people there would be the delighted if they never saw al qaeda or for that matter the taliban again. but nonetheless that phenology does exist and it is a theology which looks at us as somehow being very evil. it is a theology this is everything that is america is wrong and is a threat. the sea for instance democracy itself is blasphemy. their view is that the law, shariah should come from god and the idea that individuals will create their own law from a space process is in their view a form of blasphemy so almost everything we do from their perspective is contrary to their view how god wants things to be and as a result the take a very v

now in our relations through the pakistani government, if young men are led astray as to what the korany are willing to go and commit suicide, that is going to continue to be a great hindrance to us. we have got to look at this through our northern command as well. the radicalization of young men here in the united states. that means that we have got to be able to find clerics who know what true islam is and are willing to go out and educate the ones that are being radicalized. how do we do that? >> sir, i think that the answer has to lie, needless to say, in the islamic world. it must be islamic leaders who identified the issue you have just raised about the importance of religious leaders who have the courage to deny the extremism as an aspect of islam. those leaders are out there. they are carrying out these initiatives. some of these countries were threatened enormously by extremism, directly diagnosing the threat and taking action. needless to say, that has to continue to spread to address the threat of extremism as you have laid it out. >> countries like saudi arabia can deal with

who said his allegiance was to the koran and not to the constitution. the morale which is so important in a time of war is critical here. and if we can act and we have things like this in the united states army because out of fear we won't be politically correct and may hurt someone's feelings, where have we gone in this country? we can't call it out like it is and say for what it is and this man did not love his country. that he had more loyalty to rad equal islam and that's why he called -- why he killed those 13 soldiers that day. mr. carter: i would also argue that the way this thing has been treated, i would say with kid gloves, makes the next home-grown terrorist, of which we have seen what, two or three in the last few weeks, jihad jane and there is another one now, jihad jenny, these women who are american citizens who are now promoting jihaddist terrorism and the under wear bomber on christmas day. so, these people, i think, are looking at the murder iron a military base, i think encourages them to get involved in this stuff. if they got a scre

knowledge of arabic and muslim history including what might be called muslim prehistory setting the koran in the context to make the case that claims to the contrary notwithstanding made by a slew of intellectuals and by policymakers in both democratic and republican administration, the problems of the middle east, he argues, have little to do with israel, the u.s. or the west in general. instead, he argues, the real problem as he sees it within the politics of the arab world is the notion, legitimacy that force is given within those politics, and lee will do a far better job of presenting his own argument in a minute, and after lee speaks we have the real honor of hearing from men who know the washington policy world and the world of arab politics quite well. we will first hear from elliot abrams who served as senior directer for democracy in human rights and deputy national security adviser handling middle east affairs in the george w. bush administration. he also served in the ronald reagan administration as assistant secretary of state for international organizations, assistant secret

there have been marginal improvements at best for 2007 with 93% of the koran's remained unspent.y have these changes which are major changes to expedite the disbursement of these grants not produced the results we anticipated? we had intense interest in the spirit we had a second hearing. we asked you to report on your progress. we know you worked hard trying to solve this problem. we have not seen the report. it is over six months late. the main concern is the underlying problem. it is hard to get a handle on the problem. >> let me apologize that the report is not to the committee yet. we are working to get that through and to you. " we have done, though, is look at the recipients of this grant funds. regardless of the process between tsa and fema, we wanted to focus on the recipients of these funds. tsa has met with the recipients of 80% of these funds. " what are seeing is that at the local level, these funds are being managed well. the challenge is, they do not invoice and so big drawdown rates do not reflect the progress that is being made with each of the projects. we are a