the koran have unfortunately already the koran and burning the koran and doing other acts like that it only exasperate anti-christian anti western sentiment and if we really want to see the problem britain face depend it sure got in the water just like westboro or anywhere else need to stop their burning burning the koran sessions and they need to handle priority for it is this and they need to see peace but surely surely let me ask you this do you care if the fact. if you burn korans and then people die because if that's what's american lives at risk of perhaps you know that as civilians in afghanistan then die because of it do you care do you feel like your job then that idea here there won't be any dead soldiers on our hands when there is not going to be any repercussions will we burn that qur'an god's arm is not. i surely live as a gleam you're saying you know what do you think that there will be representations if if there if this qur'an is burned on saturday. absolutely i mean just just for that for the viewers to know that for muslims the qur'an is not even acceptable to put on

it's very horrid i have little to retailers are out here so i want to first of all talk about the koran the last chapter the most violent repentance sorry i want to say something i love muslims i have nothing against muslims there is no collective guilt here i have a problem with the ideology that inspires jihad where you have no need to have an open i have no problem you i have another problem with modern the muslim brotherhood and al-qaeda but why do we think that building a mosque building and they all go to gaza is in america to worship is necessarily going to inspire jihad is not the issue here is that the people are scared there we are there with their qualities and i designed the people places of worship we have terrible in staten island i was at that community board meeting i've been involved in that fight the people in staten island were concerned with apart from the zoning the parking and all of the tumbles it would have caused in that neighborhood they were concerned with the muslim brotherhood proxy muslim american society as far as nine eleven goes the ground zero mosque th

been following for about a month here in the show pastor terry jones has agreed to cancel burn the koran day scheduled for this saturday in gainesville florida and the pastor says the instead of burning korans he's going to fly to new york to meet with the a mom over the planned mosque near ground zero to the islamic center in new york has sparked a major upper across the country and there are also reports now that donald trump has offered to buy the building where the islamic center was scheduled to be built now as you may recall we've spoken with pastor terry jones here on this show about a month ago you can watch his interview on why he thought the burning of. iran was needed thank you to dot com slash the loaner ship but again everyone know that pastor terry jones has for now agreed not to burn korans on this saturday and he does for now claim that the mom new york has also agreed to move the so-called ground zero mosque now there are absolutely no officials no official words from now from the mom in new york about any of those plans to move the center but again we will let you know

they forced children to memorize the koran. if a muslim man harasses a christian girl and she reports into the police, no action will be taken. the police will even harasser themselves. -- harass her themselves. >> it is believed that the government turns a blind eye as young girls are kidnapped and forced into muslim marriages. one woman said that it happened to hurt three years ago. >> -- her three years ago. >> on the 17th of august, declared me a muslim. they drew up a contract. i refused to sign. one of the men they're tied me up and -- >> she cannot bring herself to say that she was raped. >> they took me to a hospital because i was bleeding severely. >> the church has built new lives. it is believed that these are victims of a shed we muslim group to bring the girls to islam. attempts to investigate are silenced or denials. victims say that they are afraid to confront the people who did this to them. some of them probably hide a shameful romance. all of the victims are trapped because regardless of why the christian woul

in the koran it's implicitly stated in the holy koran when a young mangos on jiha d and this is a spiritual endeavor to seek knowledge. it could also mean he's going into a group. but he has to get blessings from his mother first and if he doesn't do that it's shameful and disgraceful. after

in the koran it's implicitly stated in the holy koran when a young mangos on jiha d and this is a spiritual endeavor to seek knowledge. it could also mean he's going into a group. but he has to get blessings from his mother first and if he doesn't do that it's shameful and disgraceful. after 911 the taliban had a high desertion rate and they were trying to get recruit groups to fight against intervention and coalition and they went in literally impoverished societies because educated women refused to allow they're sons to fight in theal bonn. you have a less educated mother here. single parent in the difficult system. the higher education a women has the more likely her son is to go on with education rather than getting into violence and drugs and certainly she won't condone her son getting into a gang or drugs. i've sometimes been criticized for that because they say all the 911 hijackers were educated and had university degrees and that certainly is true. but nobody botherd to check they're mothers and nearly all of them were i late rate an illiterate. exciting news and then i have to unf

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invasion of afghanistan, in the same way of burning the koran, yes, globalization brings this issue to bear. very much so. i mention the town where the pastor lived, it's called crocodile. the river runs down the middle. one side has christian neighborhoods, the other islam, christian are baghdad, the islam is called television. they asked me if they misunderstood tel aviv, i don't think so. does israel palestine play out there. in those names alone, you can see the christian community in nigeria very strongly identified with the israelis. of course, you are going to see much of that within the muslim context too. sometimes it's an excuse. osama bin laden we know came to the israel/palestine late. 1998. it wasn't an issue for him before that. in the same way, sometimes israel/palestine can be a political football for those trying to garner their local interest. >> host: blond american woman along "the 10th parallel." >> guest: it was -- dirty secret, it's easier to be a woman than a man. most violence is random. if somebody comes up to your car with their ak-47 and they look in, there'

>> koran is like any holy book; it contradicts itself. you can find in the koran texts of great tolerance and others that sound pretty intolerant. >> which promote conflict. >> and the old testament, too, you can find in these books the text that justify the point of view you happen to have already. >> so when you look at the conflict today, will change come from sphwhim. >> the truth is, i don't know. i do feel that the women are the most uniformly oppressed group in the islamic world and they have a key problem. >> if you go from country to country to country, it is not necessarily what you might expect to who is the most repressive. >> it's true. this is one of the problems when you try and, you know, group all of these dferent cultures under the single name of islam, because they're not -- one of the things that was interesting to me is to see what happens when people move beyond religion. what is in the world now is called secularization and it struck me writing this book that after all, we know of many religions which have ceased to

some, like this koran, were created soon after. this one commissioned for study by some of the first protestant scholars. >> it's the first printed copy of the koran. it was published in 1543 with a preface by martin luther. >> reporter: fr. columba says these ancient texts echo with relevance to our time. christians were dealing with islam and there was a real desire to understand it better. so the result was they wanted a translation of the koran into latin. so that christians could read it and of course it wasn't for the sake of religious understanding, it was for the sake of refutation. this whole question of how western, predominantly christian countries dialog with or relate to a majority of muslim countries is something we've been talking about since 9/11. but what we forget is there are centuries of experience of christians and muslims and in many of these areas significant jewish communities as well, living together. and it wasn't always easy. and these manuscripts tell the story of legal prescriptions which were made eith

my grandmother and my mother and my koran teachers have given me a different set of education from what i would, you know, what i would call, what i would label a western education. western education was individualism. it was responsibilities. it was in a sense of adventure. not just adventure in going, you know, traipsing all over the world, but adventure, for instance, into the unknown. science, reason. that, if for me, is what i associate with the west. and my grandmother, my mother and my koran teachers and preachers educated me and in loyalty to the clan, tradition and loyalty toward god and the hereafter, loyalty to the prophet mohamed and following in his example. so i was educated in both places, but the educations are radically different. >> to watch this program in its entirety, go to booktv.org. simply type the title or the author's name at the top left of the screen and click search. >> richard rhodes, winner of the pulitzer prize and his new book "twilight of the bombs: thets o prospects for a world without nuclear weapons." richard rhodes, realisticallye speaking s there a

korans. >> now he is reaching out to muslims with the love of god. >> call him radical, fearless, whatever you want, ben mathis says ve is the way to reach the muslim world. >> mit cli there is tension between christianand muslims. unless we are willing to step out and meet people of other cultures, nothing is going to change. >> mathis convinced a high ranki hezbollah official to let him partner a christian school in georgia with muslim students foa class cultural students. >> it was my hope getting young people to talk to young people and finding out the thingthey share common, that is the beginning of building a bridge between the stents. >> they exchanged letters, e-mails, gifts and even yped. friendship starts with hello. >> we are totally different. doesn't mean we can't get along. >> we want peace. between each one of us. >> when they saw each other on skype, they wrote signs and held them up to the camera. that is when i had to walk out of the room. >> if many it was the first time they had ever met american christians. mathis believethe seeds of love planted by these students will

supervisor mirkarimi: so the question on access, however it is to be facilitated, does not mean that the koran administration necessarily has to collaborate note -- does not

supervisor mirkarimi: so the question on access, however it is to be facilitated, does not mean that the koran administration necessarily has to collaborate note -- does not mean that the current administration necessarily has to collaborate. >> the administrative staff and elected officials, other than to say that someone was nominated should not be attempting to influence a decision on an appointment. it would be made by members of the board, so any contact with boards would be problematic, but if the mayor's office does not want to cooperate -- supervisor mirkarimi: thank you. president chiu: colleagues, any further discussion? colleagues, why do we not take a vote on what was it. amendment by supervisor daly on what was presented by the clerk? madam clerk: [roll call] there are six ayes. president chiu: it passes. colleagues, any discussion on this as amended? a roll call vote on the underlying proposed process of amendment. madam clerk: supervisor avalos? president chiu: it is an eight-vote situation because we need to change it. madam clerk: [roll call] there are sixayes. -- there are si

each relies on a text, a bible, the torah or the koran to provide history and inspiration.on, yet -- >> we find ourselves now in a time where the world is pretty much mired in conflict in many places and there is tension between members of these three faiths that after all are ee seven almostly cousins. >> for americans, of course, that tension came to the forefront in 2001. >> after the events of 9/11 i worried about the future of my children being american born, i new one thing, i need them to be american muslim and proud. >> at the time new yorker ronya felt isolated. she reached out to suzanne oliver, a christian. their kids shared the same school. >> then here was this lovely muslim woman at my bus stop she wasn't looking like the jihad that we were seeing. >> oliver asked the friend of a friend, a jewish woman to join in. >> we were all strangers to each other. which made the conversations all the more interesting and heightened because there wasn't a friendship of faith. >> the faith club became the backbone of a book. that inspired other faith clubs, like the one we

was a letter in the persian script and said dear compassion of the poor we reviewed your case and in koran education is inor encouraged for all children. it encourages all people to have knowledge and seek knowledge. well, um... with that letter, started getting dozens of proposals especially for girls schools. why is girls education so important? i've gone to the extent now where i say you can drop bombs and build roads or put in electricity but until the girls are implicated, society won't change. several global studies show if you educate a girl to fifth grade level it does three things. reduce infant mortality, population explosion reduction and improve the quality of life and health. if your interested you can look up a guy called, well he wrote a book called development is freedom. it's a fat book. in the 60's another writer had the very foresite to see that girls education would be a process to bring about stabilization of population. he wrote a book called the poverty curve and jeffery sacks wrote the end of poverty in bangladesh a great example, they introduced

invasion of afghanistan, the lunatic holding up the koran and saying he was going to burn it. you know, these images rocket around the world. people do die. people die in kabul. they die in nigeria. so in terms of the ground zero question, because it has not turned explicitly violent here, i have not seen that leading to a lot of violence elsewhere along the 10th parallel. that said, these two sides shape each other. radicals on one side mouth off and they create an equal and opposite reaction on the other side. and that is what is so enably polarizing. this is a true believer. i'm a true exclusive believer. that creates piss yours on the same side. >> host: how much fall the law? >> guest: the northern third follows islamic law. that has proven very little. essentially the call to return to islamic law is so frequently in this area of the world about rejecting corruption. rejecting what's seen as a failed democracy which is failed by the west. we don't think of that. well, it's about the voodoo, the criminal code that says lop off lands, stone people to death. in fact, not. t

from threats to burn the koran in a small american state from the banning of the barca in france to the protests in muslim states, two special reports. first, from egypt. christmas under attack. his father and mother -- his father and mother believe their daughter was kidnapped. >> look at me. i'm dying inside. jesus christ gave me my daughter. he gave her to me, not to them. >> and from switzerland, the marginal station of muslims in the secular state. >> it is sad when people do not accept muslim women to wear the hijab. >> i will be discussing all this with a christian does look, a leading moslem cleric, and a secular some honest. hello. is the world dividing into a muslim middle east and an anti- muslim europe? with ideologies on a collision course, who's to blame, and can we heal the divide before it develops into a monumental clash? we begin with a reminder of some of the flashpoints of the year. plans to build an islamic community center two blocks away from ground zero, the side of the 9/11 attacks, are greeted with fierce opposition. supporters of the project say they aim to bu

investigators believe he has been posting messages and pictures of himself for weeks from his cell atcor koran- corcoran state prison. >> on the surface it looks harmless. but knowing so many inmates are involved in gangs, it's possible these could be coded messages. >> authorities are concerned that inmates could use facebook to coordinate crimes from prison. they are known to use cell phones for such devious purposes. just last year the department confiscated 9,000 cell phones that were smuggled into state prisons. >>> a san jose company is changing the way people can get back in shape. if your fat isn't melting off, how about freezing it away? sounds pretty good, huh? joe vazquez has the details. >> right in here for you. >> reporter: corrine says she works out a lot, but can't seem to lose those annoying last couple of inches of fat. >> whoa. >> cold, right? >> reporter: so she has decided to freeze it off. >> i usually gain a good five to seven pounds around the holidays, so i'm hoping that this will help. >> reporter: it's a new technique just approved a couple of months ago by the fda.

>> there is no verse in the koran to say get one to happen. i wonder why everyone who wishes to go to heaven > [unintelligib] i cannot find adverse. -- i cannot find that first. -- i cannot find that verse. why we always opt for the second jihad? there is something that works there. it is a very complicated discussion and debate. coming back to your point, if omar has a point, i am sure they would not say the precondition would be for you to remove your message. he has no message. he knows nothing except killing. i find it insulting to say the messages of two -- of truth muslims is only killing. there is no vision for this world. we wait in desperation to go to the other world. that is not the message i get from the koran. the taliban is a group. they do not represent the majority. i was fighting the taliban before the intervention of the united states because of my beliefs. we will fight again. >> question here in the front. >> thank you. i am from fox news. i am on the board of the jamestown foundation. if you talk about political kabul and

i talked to pastors and there's a fair amount from the old testament implications and from the koran. i definitely tried to look at those institutions as the historical basis for y. wasting food is wrong and the historical solutions people have had. the idea of gleaning is something that is in the judeo-christian bible. originally you leave the edges of your field unharvested so that the port could come and collect food. it takes on a different meaning nowadays. usually volunteers going out to a field and picking when a farmer isn't going to harvest but the same end goal of getting food to those who need it. any other questions? maybe we will take one other question and then have our big winner. yes? two other questions. >> you hear about a lot of other cultures and countries where meals are a more communal experience and take your time enjoy it wear typically in the united states they are more a quick process. could the speed at which we eat in this country and the fast-food mentality, factor in to our decisions? >> i think that does play a role. having quick meals and not eating tog

john koran our chairman of the senate committee has warned them to expect the primaries.heir least worry right now. i think you'll see americans continue to keep the pressure on parochial spending. >> you doeld me you're not running for president in 2012. what about the guy standing next to you. what do you think? >> i think he might make a good president, so we need to keep our eye on him. >> congressman pence, i know you have a vote. we'll keep our eyes on him. thank you for your time. >>> a huge snub from the united states today on the world stage, and in ohio today. it's a huge day for politics. also tonight, a big statement in sports. that, when we come back. [ sneezes ] you're up next. yeah. aww...that oj needs alka-seltzer plus. fast powder packs are a taste-free fizz-ee way to transform your drink into a powerful cold fighter! there's a cold front moving in, but relief is on the way. into a powerful cold fighter! ♪ when it's planes in the sky ♪ ♪ for a chain of supply, that's logistics ♪ ♪ when the parts for the line ♪ ♪ come precisely on time ♪ that's logistics ♪

but then there's a fair amount from kind of the old testamentrs implications and a bit from the koranso i definitely tried to the look at those institutions as kind of the historical basis for why wasting food is wrong and some of the historical solutions people have had. and so the idea of gleaning isli something that is in the judeo-christian bible where, you know, originally it was you leave the edges of your field unharvested so that the poordg could come collect food.ie come to take on a slightlyou different meaning, nowadays it'. usually volunteers going out to a field and picking what a farmer isn't go ipg to hard -- isn't going to harvest. but it's the same end goal of getting good to those who need it. o so any other questions? maybe we'll take one other question and then we can, we ca? have our big winner. yes. oh, okay. >> that's okay. you hear about a lot of other cultures where meals are a more communal experience and kind of take your time and enjoy it whereas stereotypically in the united states it's more kind of a quick process. could the speed at which we eatt in this

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menu for special people they get a special rug a special skull cap a special zip lock bag delivered koran never touched by an infidel and they have as many as 20 attacks on americans a day at guantanamo bay. about half of them are physical attacks where they try to get one of our guards down, usually navy personnel, and try to get their handcuff chains around their throats and strangle them, the other half are throwing human feces in the face of our troops. what is the punishment? if there happened to be a domestic prisoner in the domestic prison if you continued with that, you'd find yourself in solitary confinement and eventually the punishment would be that you would be locked up in prison for life. but what we do is nothing. there is no penalty if khalid sheikh mohammed attacks a guard every day, the worst we can do to him is cut his outdoor exercise down to two hours a day. two hours a day outside, the rest of the day you're in 75-degree temperature, meals you've chosen and there was one inmate that wanted a bible he converted to christianity. but it was forbid ton bring a bible into

the faith is the believe that muslims should only follow the court's nine -- follow the koran. all members of lashkar-e-taiba have to go to the 21-day training. when they are selected to wage jihad in kashmir, they undergo a special training for three months or six months. that is intensive training. for example, one part of the training is that you have to live in the jungle for 72 hours. in that part, there is nothing to eat. you have to survive on grass and leaves. you are allowed to come back to the kitchens, attack them and snatch food. that is part of the training. unless you succeed in that, you are not allowed to go and wage jihad. during this training, the emphasis is on your knowledge of islam. most people describe jihadists as killers. i would not describe them as killers. that is not the primary motive of jihadists. the primary motive is to become a martyr. on the way to become a martyr, they kill a lot of people. that is the collateral damage. they carry explosives. they are going to die in those attacks. lashkar-e-taiba have not carried out suicide attacks. in the

they are furnished a koran. you talk about torture and i think there should be waterboarding for everybody down there. guest: i think this is more about us and our values, american values. it is about the united states and what we want to stand for and it is about them. -- than it is about them. do we want to ignore our core values and the rights that are encompassed in our constitution in our approach in the fight against terrorism? i think that our values, many have stated, including general patraeus, that our values are one of our best tools in the fight against terrorism. that includes a value that we do not torture. it is against u.s. law. and it is considered -- it is against our international legal obligations. and it is something we do not do as americans and is something we should not do. it makes us stronger that we embrace those values and that we fulfill those volumes in our counter-terrorism policy. host: the advocacy counsel at human rights first has observed the military commission proceedings at

simple, when obama goes out of his way to address muslim society in the religious terms, to invoke the koran on all of this is fine at some humane moral level, but in touch with the muslim world needs to hear from the american president is a secular message played the muslim world does not need the american president to address them on the religious terrain and the second consequence of obama's kind of engagement as a consequence of these strategic realities is that it turns out that engagement usually means 66 he thinks he's accepting society. but he is accepting our regimes. but he is accepting his regime's and you see this in the dissidents of the human rights policy, you see this in with which he and sycophant clinton, anyway, you see this in the warmth and there is a confusion being made as a consequence of this warmer -- obama believes that he is the man from the future. he doesn't like to meet century. he's the man from the 21st century. he stands for new thinking, and our political questions now are in frenzies of new thinking. everything is different partly because the internet and

of the affinities and differences in the worldview, ideology and traditional interpretation of the koran, social and ethnic composition, operational and approach to combat as well as the dynamics of leadership personalities. all thanks to the current debate on the u.s. strategy on pakistan and afghanistan and global terrorism extremism will find a trove of references to extend their particular specific arguments. so i shall not delve into the details which you may address if you have any questions and will only submit some salience based on discussion. first, despite distinct differences of ethnic and cultural backgrounds and political ideological agenda, al qaeda did find a base in afghanistan and was not given up at the taliban in the wake of 9/11. however, there are now more and more voices highlighting redemptions between mullah amar and osama bin laden at that time and war could then averted and the lyrical solutions may have been possible. secondly, a common existential threat and the comradeship of combat over the last nine years have enhanced trust, enter dependability and of cou

and i want to share with you my father was the only one who translated the koran from arabic to heeb and other languages and only candidate to be president of the state of israel in 1957. therefore we are very close and we are very familiar with the muslim attitudes. and we have to remember that when i came here in 1964 the first time, there were only three major television shows. there was abc, cbs and nbc, for you new yorkers, you probably remember channel number 9 that showed movies 24 around the clock, the same movie every two hours. i think that was the only thing we did and we had good correspondents. even though it took two, three days before the news came to america. the most important thing that everyone in the media that time did see the idea to spread his ideology, he felt that his position and his work is to inform and to give you information but not to play as mediator and not to play to someone in your opinion to lead today. todayly tell you the trune, all honest f. i want to hear right wing, i will turn to the fox. if i want to hear the left wing, i turn to cnn. if i d

simple, when obama goes out of his way to address muslim society in the religious terms, to invoke the koran fine at some humane moral level, but in touch with the muslim world needs to hear from the american president is a secular message played the muslim world does not need the american president to address them on the religious terrain and the second consequence of obama's kind of engagement as a consequence of these strategic realities is that it turns out that engagement usually means 66 he thinks he's accepting society. but he is accepting our regimes. but he is accepting his regime's and you see this in the dissidents of the human rights policy, you see this in with which he and sycophant clinton, anyway, you see this in the warmth and there is a confusion being made as a consequence of this warmer -- obama believes that he is the man from the future. he doesn't like to meet century. he's the man from the 21st century. he stands for new thinking, and our political questions now are in frenzies of new thinking. everything is different partly because the internet and partly because of

of the affinities and differences in the worldview, ideology and traditional interpretation of the koran, social and ethnic composition, operational and approach to combat as well as the dynamics of leadership personalities. all thanks to the current debate on the u.s. strategy on pakistan and afghanistan and global terrorism extremism will find a trove of references to extend their particular specific arguments. so i shall not delve into the details which you may address if you have any questions and will only submit some salience based on discussion. first, despite distinct differences of ethnic and cultural backgrounds and political ideological agenda, al qaeda did find a base in afghanistan and was not given up at the taliban in the wake of 9/11. however, there are now more and more voices highlighting redemptions between mullah amar and osama bin laden at that time and war could then averted and the lyrical solutions may have been possible. secondly, a common existential threat and the comradeship of combat over the last nine years have enhanced trust, enter dependability and of cou

and i want to share with you my father was the only one who translated the koran from arabic to heeb and other languages and only candidate to be president of the state of israel in 1957. therefore we are very close and we are very familiar with the muslim attitudes. d we have to remember that when i came here in 1964 the first time, there were only three major television shows. there was abc, cbs and nbc, for you new yorkers, you probably remember channel number 9 that showed movies 24 around the clock, the same movie every two hours. i think that was the only thing we did and we had good correspondents. even though it took two, three days before the news came to america. the most important thing that everyone in the media that time did see the idea to spread his ideology, he felt that his position and his work is to info and to give you information but not to play as mediator and not to play to someone in your opinion to lead today. todayly tell you the trune, all honest f. i want to hear right wing, i will turn to the fox. if i want to hear the left wing, i turn to cnn. if i don't

present day, you keep having people writing that shows us the barbaric nature of islamic culture of the koran of the islamic fundamentalists. they do not respect human life as we do in our western tradition. this is a true clash of civilizations. and so there were so many issues coming up here for me, i've got to try to sort all this out. why do you have the -- you know, the real similarities, the failures of intelligence? why do we have these faults analogies? why -- what can we make of ourselves as people in the modern world? and the way i had come to think of it over the years but was crystallized then was not in terms of clash of civilizations but in terms of or clash of cultures but that modern world itself is a culture. we're trapped in the coils of war. we're in wars and wars and wars and wars. the technology is getting more and more sophisticated and that's why the book i wanted to do was called "cultures of wars" 'cause i wanted to sort this out. it doesn't mean it's all relative. obviously, it's not all relative. but there's a dynamic in the modern wars. and this threw me into it. a

strain of islam, which is referred to by various names, jihad is some code which scholars who believe koran as they read it is a which the great majority of muslims, in my view, but the very narrow group is they seek. you look at a guess is the majority of people there would be delighted if they that matter the nonetheless, that theology that looks at everything that america is strong and is a see for instance that democracy itself view is should the idea that individuals will create their own loss to the democratic process is a nephew a so almost everything we do is contrary to their view of how god wants banks to be in as a result they take a very violent means modern movement within the muslim world. i think our way forward in the muslim world is to support moderate government of our muslims and, ideology. >> host: why don't doing it themselves? >> guest: i are dealing with an al qaeda like movement, was finding it difficult. there's several abu sayyaf, which were terrorizing the people work in partnership with training exercises, carrying the for the islands were abu sayyaf soft power a

they are furnished a koran. you talk about torture and i think there should be waterboarding for everybody down there. guest: i think this is more about us and our values american values. it is about the united state and what we want to stand for and it is about them. -- than it is about them. do we want to ignore our core values and the rights that are encompassed in our constitution in our approach in the fight against terrorism? i think that our values, many have stated, including general patraeus that our values are one of our best tls in the fight against terrorism. that includes a value that we do not torture. it is against u.s. law. and it is considered -- it is against our international legal obligations. and it is something we do not do as americans and is something we should not do. it makes us stronger that we embrace those values and that we fulfill those volumes in our counter-terrorism policy. host: the advocacy counsel at human rights first has observed the military commission proceedings at gtmo.

for example, when obama goes out of its wit -- his way to invoke the koran -- all of this is fine at some humane moral level but in fact, what the world needs to hear from the american president is a secular message, is a secular message. the muslim world does not need the american president to address them on a religious terrain. and the second consequence of obama's kind of engagement, consequence of strategic reality, is it turns out engagement usually means -- he thinks he is accepting society. what he is really accepting is regimes. what he is really accepting and rick -- is regimes. you see that in dissidents in human rights policy -- descendants in human rights policy, and secretary clinton -- anyway, you see this in the war in which they speak of these regimes, confusion as a consequence of this warmer -- the problem is that obama believes that he is a man from of the future. he does not like the 20th century. he is the man from the 21st century. he stands for new thinking. and our political classes are all now in frenzies of new thinking. everything is different -- partly be

the holy koran declares that killing an innocent is tantamount -- one innocent life -- tantamount to killing all of mankind. we know that terrorist are trying to buy, build, or steal a bomb. there is enough highly-enriched uranium in the world to build more than 100,000 bombs. we believe that global 0 -- the only way to eliminate the threat of nuclear terrorism is to drain the swamp. arsenals have been reduced from the cold war high of 70,000 to the 23,000 in the world today. that is the fact that many people do not realize and it sets a precedent that should not be ignored. at global zero we're working to ensure their ratification of the new start treaty by the u.s. senate. that wil -- we will discuss later. i do not think there is a need for me to go into that in detail. over the past few years, since we launched global zero, the movement has grown to 300 leaders, former head of state on national security advisers, defense ministers, military commanders -- from the nuclear states as well as some non- nuclear states and hundreds of thousands of citizens worldwide. our commission has