korea and north korea, for the first time, on the soil of south korea, they bombard. this is how terrible the south korean situation is. north korea's military strip. let me escape out of this. ok. south korea's policies, limit -- let me briefly introduce the policies. became the jae president, our conservative president always pursued a kind of peace. when people look at their policies in detail, they seem to -- in terms of south korea. north korea was hostile to the idea of conservative government. jae's government paid special attention to the -- and the greater unification by peaceful means. this is the basic line of north korean policies. throughout the nuclear crisis on on the peninsula there are four kinds of ideas around or in korea about north korea's change. the first idea is the collapse school. the government represents the kind of idea. the second school is neglect. i think the moon governments belongs in the -- course. even though many south korean , or maybe people in washington, d.c., they isieve the jae government inherited from kim jong-un. i can say

policy of aggression towards north korea as a professor hung about it the axis of evil north korea's place along with iran and iraq in the axis of evil and so as much as you want to see interest in progress it will always be constrained and greatly. impacted negatively impacted by u.s. hostility towards north korea so we have to see these two parallel tracks taking place and i think just bring it back to what the south koreans and u.n. has been saying is we want both denuclearization and pursuit of the peace treaty to go side by side and that we are not going to see the denuclearization of north korea and north korea giving up is when deterrence unless they have guaranteed security and that's going to come in the form of concrete steps including the removal of change and normalize relations between the u.s. and north korea one of the things we'd be remiss if we didn't bring up today is human rights because so many of our community members are discussing that disappear one person on twitter says if monday and truly wants to help north korea human rights talk is inevitable another pers

it's not south korea it's not one of the two koreas and it doesn't have the leverage or the clout thatchina. or the united states does so japan's interest is really in staying relevant in north korea policy game and in a way that benefits when tensions are higher between the united states and north korea because it has been an advocate of the pressure again pain and it is a friend to the hardliners in the administration. mr coe how official looking on at what's happened president when jay and said that he was perplexed but what does the cancellation of the summit if anything mean for north south relations well that's a good question there has been a statement coming out of the presidential blue house today that despite this enormous setback south korea has continued to try and get these important parties to do he's process talking at the same time to go in government will continue to remain committed to improving relations with north korea which according to its own vision was supposed to include significant economic aspects as well the question though at this juncture is where there a

forces in south korea and offshore of south korea. that is going to raise the question, perhaps as early as the summit, subsequently certainly -- what should our response be to that? do we agree to that? or do we basically tell the north, there will have to be taken in terms of agreements and implementation regarding denuclearization before we could begin to talk about u.s. troops? or, you might say, u.s. troops are off the table completely in a denuclearization negotiation? what kind of thinking do you think we should be doing about this? i think this is very crucial. >> chris hill -- >> chris hill has related that he was told throughout the talks, you americans eventually are going to have to come to terms with the issue of u.s. troops with us. that time is about here. as a military person, i don't think we can sacrifice readiness. we have to maintain the rok military capabilities. inould not make any changes u.s. for status contingent on north korea's nuclear status, and on the dismantlement, but they could be discussed as part of

-south korea military alliance? is that still the place if north korea is in the peace treaty with the united states does though legality of the alliance still stand? that's one issue. the other issue is we hear a lot of this linkage that china is making, the lake is between a broader u.s.-china relations and the linkage of what china's position north korea really is. i do see that on both sides because remember a year ago president trump's position was that if china cooperates with us on south korea, the trade deal, they would get much better. guess what one year later it's not that much better. so for the chinese they feel there's a strong sense of grievance unappreciative that china did deliver on north korea but the trade deal is as bad as was mentioned. i think there's a transactional issue here that both sides are avoiding to talk about that isn't there. >> let go back to jenny and then katsu for whatever thoughts they want to share, the things you left unsaid that you are dying to say today. >> i think i said

and north korea. making the case that they are already getting things, and north korea has not done anything yet, but i am not sure how far they want to get ahead of the process. >> another question. >> thank you. so i just have a kind of moral question for the people that are for the proposition. the third time that we are kind of negotiating this. i think that there is a lot of bluster in this administration without tryingt to bias the audience. and what i think is impossible to get a complete denuclearization of north korea. you think that you can -- >> can you -- , so inoral question is the 1990's, you had a lot of people serving, and millions of people died because of sanctions, actions on the part of the international community to get them to the table. i think that happened again. >> no more exposition. get your question, sir. >> my question with this run-on sentence with a lot of comments, use theset moral to things as a bargaining chip when you have somebody who is in a position where he thin

, the united states, south korea, japan and north korea, all aimed at preventing north korea from getting nukes. we've given them enormous amounts of money, enormous amounts of resources and they have nukes. what happened? >> i think that the united states had other priorities, and so what we did was we put north korea almost all the time at the bottom of the list, and so, of course, the north koreans were able to just basically lie, cheat and steal, and we weren't paying that much attention. there were only certain moments that we're concerned. for instance, 1994, when we almost went to war. but you know during the administration of george w. bush, you know, they spent a lot of time on north korea, but for them, the most important thing was integrating china into the international system. the bush administration put, for instance, china at the center of the six-party talks, and because of that, you know, we sort of got an arrogant beijing because we fed their notions of self-importance, and we got a nukedup north korea. so you know you get to the obama era, and basically it's in the too-

intend to war with south korea. what matters is the capabilities. capabilities. we are not going to see any diminution of the capabilities in the north or south for quite some time the good news is the south doesn't have the conventional military capabilities to affect unification on their terms. the other good news is the south koreans have a strong u.s. ally at their the back. i'm not so worried about the north koreans sort of having to disarm as a prerequisite for peacemaking. i think it's an unrealistic expectation. i think there should be and will need to be some kind of a piece declaration, peace regime established early in the process. it's going to have to involve china because not only did the chinese general signed the armistice agreement but you just can't practically ended the korean war without china's support. eventually the chinese want to sign on the dotted line and they will be crucial in providing security assurances to north korea that gives north korea the confidence to proceed down a peace proce

position between south korea and north korea. a considerable level of trust between these leaders, since -- seems to be established. talks through the exchanges. a certain to have confidence this moment some may be quite serious. withe in negotiation president trump. anticipate something positive afterwords. .his is their sense we are not sure because we have not seen the outcomes. this is the decision. the north korean leader hopes to shift to economic development thethe completion of military and the economy. on third one is confidence domestic probabilities with south korea. are focusingt they on how to improve between the south and north korea. the main focus is to build a better relationship with south korea. is -- he triede over for the left north korea summit. south korean government, particularly president moon credit tonts to give president trump. we didn't have any detail guidelines or policies about denuclearization. just basic principles and may be policy directions. over forerything left the u.s. north korea summit.

i'm from democratic party of korea. as, we are facing north korea-u.s. summit i am very honored to be here. i will provide an assessment of the inter-korea summit. you've seen stories about the success of the summit and expectations for the upcoming u.s.-north korean summit. i believe president moon's vision of peninsula driver was a major factor in carrying us this far. perhaps you've seen the news, . during the summit meeting kim and moon agreed to complete the denuclearization of the korean peninsula. perhaps you have seen the news, former first lady lee told president moon he should receive the nobel peace prize. president moon responded the peace prize should go to president trump, we will take the peace instead. the response highlights the good intentions of president moon. last year president moon gave the party a speech in which he spoke of his vision for peninsula driver and since he has followed through, followed through. during the pyeongchang olympics, he made room for the participation of north korea, by delaying a u.s.-south korea joint mil

and north korea. the pipe has many loopholes, and many funds or goods diverted to government programs. there are so many loopholes. because china is constraining the entire flow the amount of , water leaked from the pipe appears to be small, but once the overflow levels return to the previous volume, we will have the same problems. north korea, they are connecting -- their agents are connecting to programs for illegal procurement activities. they are still there. north korean nationals are living in luxurious apartments and are still there. i don't know why. north korean possessing cambodian passports and traveling around the world. no government stops the activity effectively. dialogue, thethe international community has never been good at implementing effective sanctions, so this relates to the future of the regime. it's not only about north korea but how do we take control of risk of the verging many commercial quantities of technology? no country in the world has been good. i see no good examples

and north korea. so if this occurs japan would be abandoned to make financial contributions to the denuclearization towards north korea. i'm not sure the japanese public would be willing accept to having pay money and so it is not easy for the japanese public to accept the change without taking japanese interests because it might affect the security environment in the whole of asia including japan. what should we do? i think there is still time for japan to get involved in the pros fess and contribute to it. there might be also possible to create concurrently with, so one of the ideas it is worth trying for japan is proposing a framework like six-party talks and. that does not seem be in favor of much lateral due to the previous failure and perhaps the instinct in favor of a sticking to a one-two negotiation. japan would make iaea, in japanese, japan makes financial contribution to the iaea in area of human resources as well. so japan and north korea already have 2002 declaration by prime minister koi

korea. now currently we only have the discussion about whether we do until the summit is completed or we give everything up after the total disarmament. quite the advantage that they didn't have 10 years ago. we have only been talking about two different options. if you are concerned about the salami's ice coming, we can do this thing. we also have to ensure long-term monitoring to prevent north from using the capabilities they have already were hired. south africa, almost 20 years to satisfy that south korea is suddenly committed to nonproliferation. rack, u.s., george bush administration ran through a rack, the group consisted of 1400 experts supported by military and took less than two years only to prove that they existed in iraq. you have to be realistic about the scale that you're talking about when you talk about north korea. and also the long-term commitment that would be required for us. sanctions to lift all awe might expect to see revival of the recent play of a rack sanctions. we

is that -- >> north korea has enough. >> one thing south korea north korea agreed in the declaration, but there's unspoken part which we don't have a fulltext is that the west coast where there were neighbors skirmishes happen, there are a lot of small islands just like already exist natural atolls, are there. now it's included and basically water, air, ground, all the confrontational manners and behaviors should change. so there could be an interesting deploy of our post, but not like china. because north korea kim has a focus in word to make every angry elites and people to be satisfied with the economic development. >> thank you so much, everyone. we are out of time but wataru, katie and sue, thank you so much for being on this panel. [applause] >> you get to speak again after the summit. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> this fors and asian securityn a short break on another panel of speakers gets set up. while we wait for that abou

forces in korea. with regards the information agreement, that practice was not so, the japaned team being a contingency from time to time, so frustrating. that oh, we don't get direct information from the counterparts south korea. and even u.s. forces in korea. such a dialogue was solved. i asked korea, let's set up a meeting. between military and japan, that was smooth and set up. u.s.,n south korea and already set up. but on our side, it was not formalized at this moment. however, we really needed and we asked. the u.s. side was easy. but the korean side had a huge pressure. the exercise was really helpful, however, i remember is the korean side spokesperson said we are prisoners of public opinion. challenge as to how the korean government can cooperate with japan. and i think that is a big lesson. there is a big lesson we have learned. two, plus two plus two, big help. for the setting up of sharing information and strategy and sometimes, itso, is very good for creating trust. it was a big achieveme

korea to the north korean people after vilifying the u.s. for so long. well they will portray it as the result of the peerless genius of their leader kim jong un you know ears fashion the summit he's brought the u.s. to a summit through is careful diplomacy and of course the military power that he has consolidated for the democratic people's republic of korea so that will be how they how they spin it domestically. really it's interesting to watch how it's being spun on the u.s. side. several hints dribs and drabs coming out the last couple weeks about where it might be and when the summit might be and yet very little confirmation so we're having to do a bit of tea leaf reading with both north korean and u.s. media under a really good to talk to you many thanks indeed for being with us you're looking at live pictures there from the joint base andrews this is ours iraq with live coverage of. the three americans freed from prison in north korea have just landed at the joint base andrews in maryland president donald trump there to receive the le

north korea also counseled a meeting with south korea into test a military exercises being conducted by seoul and washington. history being written only a few weeks ago at the summit of the north and south korean leaders. where pyongyang said it was prepared to denuclearize. but now north korea has put the brakes on that. in a possible sign of growing problems the north perspire a shared jeweled summit with south korea. the reason. the it's the annual us south korea joint military exercises this is taking place south korea was surprised and disappointed by the delay. it's regrettable that north korea has decided to unilaterally postpone you. it also caught us off guard we have not heard anything from that government or the government of south korea to indicate that we would not continue conducting these exercises or that we would not continue planning for a meeting between president trump and kim jong un next month trump has taken credit for shepherding the korean peninsula towards peace here meeting newly freed u.s. citizens who had been held prisoner in north korea their release wa

north korea? >> i will guarantee his safety. yes, we will guarantee his safety. and we've talked about that from the beginning. he will be safe. he will be happy. his country will be rich. his country will be hardworking and very prosperous. they're very great people. they're hardworking, great people. look at what happened with south korea. don't forget, we helped south korea. we have spent trillions of dollars, not billions, trillions of dollars over many, many years. we helped south korea. and south korea is one of the most incredible countries in terms of what they do. you know that. that's what you are. that's where you're from. same people. same people. so, yeah, i think that he will be extremely happy if something works out. and if it doesn't work out, honestly, he can't be happy. but he has a chance to do something that maybe has never been done before. and i think it would be, if you look 25 years into the future, 50 years into the future, he will be able to look back and be very proud of

north korea summit. i believe president moon's vision was a major factor entering the summit meeting. kim to complete denuclearization of the korean peninsula. former first lady told the president moon that he should receive nobel peace prize. president moon responded the peace prize should go to president trump and we will take the peace instead. that response highlights the good intentions of president moon. last year, president moon gave a speech and since, he has followed through. during the olympic, he made room for participation of the north korea by delaying a korea u.s. joint military exercise in consultation with the u.s. after the olympics, president moon followed through by sending a special envoy and a special meeting and the message was relaed to president trump. that laid the foundation for the upcomi upcomi upcoming u.s. north korea summit. president moon arranged the meeting. what distinguished this that they are connected with u.s. north korea summit. the previous summits are limited in

it's not south korea it's not one of the two koreas and it doesn't have the leverage or the clout thatchina. or the united states does so japan's interest is really in staying relevant in north korea policy game and in a way that benefits when tensions are higher between the united states and north korea because it has been an advocate of the pressure again pain and it is a friend to the hardliners in the ministration. mr kerr how it fell looking on at what's happened to president hu and jay and said that he was perplexed but what does the cancellation of the summit if anything mean for north south relations well that's a good question there has been a statement coming out of the presidential blue house today that despite this enormous setback south korea has continued to try and get these important parties to do he's process talking at the same time to go going to government will continue to remain committed to improving relations with north korea which according to its own vision was supposed to include significant economic aspects as well the question though at this juncture is wher

right now we are looking at two korea's, two very successful korea's. you can have a successful north korea and you already have a successful south korea. south korea was in a condition as bad as north korea when they started this experiment that worked out well for them. now you look at samsung and lg and the ships they are building. when i was over there, i flew over plants that are incredible. see two korea's and ultimately maybe someday, it would not be now, but maybe they will get together and go back to one korea. that would be ok with me, too. as long as they both wanted that. thank you all very much. thank you. >> how do you anticipate -- ate buys theagain, tremendous amount of parts for their telephones. the fourth largest in the world. they buy from american companies. immediately when i looked at it was my administration a close them down. when i looked at it i said, they can pay a big price for that -- a big price without damaging american companies, which they are. you're talking about tremendous amount of money and jobs. large -- newvery m

we don't want war with north korea. we need cooler heads to prevail and stick to the strategy of amying pressure and getting them to the table sflmpt. >> reporter: some suggested part of the reason why there have been changes in the president's approval ratings has to do with the fact that we were seeing progress here with north korea. do you think this will hurt the president at home in. >> people want peace. it will hurt the president at home if it seems like we are getting back to the posture we were at before where he is insulting kim jong-un and threatening to use our nuclear arsenal. this seems to be a solvable issue. if we can continue to work with the south koreans, japanese and chinese we can solve this crisis. we should seize that opportunity rather than go back to the childish impulsive behavior. >> i know that the congressman can't hear you. is there a question you would like me to ask here? >> we are talking about north korea. i would love to eric on another big headline happening that we haven't talked abo

but swift reaction from south korea. it's midnight in seoul, and the president moon sjae-in called a emergency meeting of his staff. calling them all together to try to make sense of what has just happened. they were effectively blind sided. they say they're still trying to make sense of what president trump's intention is. in issuing this letter, saying that the summit has been called off. in the last couple of days -- and he met with moon jae-in a couple of days ago. you'll recall the comments president trump made about president xi in china, how he wasn't happy with the second meeting between xi and kim jong-un. said he didn't like the change in tone or attitude by kim jong-un that followed that meeting. suggesting that perhaps china was getting out of line in trying to take on a role in this summit that he didn't want to foresee. so we might be seeing some vailed reaction in this to china, and it will be interesting to see what their reaction is. all along they've been pushing for some sort of cdialogue. they don't w

north korea summit we're going to have more global reaction. and why this american boxing champion has been given a posthumous pardon by the president. from a fresh coastal breeze. to watching the sunset on the australian outback. welcome back across central and southern parts of china we've got an area of rain affecting up towards the yangtze river valleys stunning towards shanghai cism heavy downpours are likely here further surfers all working fine for food for hong kong and across in taiwan also looking at conditions further south once you get into vietnam and more particularly into words less then you start to see some pretty heavy showers in those respects as it continues through saturday about staging see the rain extends a bit further towards the south across china affecting chain do and hand as well for southeastern parts of asia we've got germany fine conditions across more northern parts of the philippines so for luzon it should be fine temperature in the mid thirty's there for manila further towards the south so for southern parts o

we have the meeting between north korea and south korea. we have the upcoming meeting with the u.s. and north korea. what is the point of doing all this if we cannot have denuclearization? the table is set, the time is right. we have had everyone do their thing with threats. now, let us step back and do what we need to do to make sure that we can come to some decision and agreement on denuclearization. understanding the past is important. important. it should not convince you to not make progress in the future. for that reason i know you will all vote for the motion that negotiation can >> thank you, bonnie jenkines. our next debater will be speaking against the motion. ladies and gentlemen. [applause] there is no bargain that can fully denuclearize north korea at the negotiating table. that is what you are arguing tonight. opponents can convince you of the opposite, that there is a clear deal that kim jong-un would prefer over his now thenete nuclear arsenal, you should vote for this motion and against our position. thishroughout this debate evening, we ask you to keep in mind one

the fifth one, in the past the south korea always blamed north korea. they agreed on declarations and agreements but they never kept those aagreements. this time kim jong-un raised that issue. we have adopted so many agreements and declarations but they were never kept and implemented. this time we wish to keep our agreements so that we do not lose face. and that's very interesting development on the part of north korea. also they had become much more specific. in the past they adopt declarations. then as details they would this time the talk about specific scattering of korean months. for example, this month in may, north-south korea will have high level talks and military talks and general level military talks and those talks will be continued and there will be reunion of separate families between north and south and either september, october, president moon will be visiting pamunjom. there is difficult the scheduling. that is really aspect separate pan munjom summit from the other summits. if you look at this kind of differences you can come up with

it's not south korea it's not one of the two koreas and it doesn't have the leverage or the clout that china. or the united states does so japan's interest is really and staying relevant and north korea policy game and in a way it benefits when tensions are higher between the united states and north korea because it has been an advocate of the pressure a campaign and it is a friend to the hardliners in the administration mr coe how it's still looking on at what's happened president who said that he was perplexed but what does the cancellation of the summit if anything mean for north south relations well that's a good question there has been a statement coming out of the presidential blue house today despite this enormous south koreans continue to try and get these important parties to do he's process talking at the same time to go in government will continue to remain committed to improving relations with north korea which according to its own vision was supposed to include significant economic aspects as well the question though at this juncture is whether any of this is really going

and north korea, within a month usi getting north korea to abandon its nuclear ambitions. if there were to happen that would be big-league peace prize stuff. is it even likely? where is the trust? where's the incentives for each side to come to the table. just diplomacy have a chance given the past, given the personalities, given the stakes. to us it sounds like the makings of a debate. yes or no, negotiations can denuclearize north korea. i am john donvan with a special edition of intelligence squared u.s. we have four debaters will attack this question. first, i want to welcome a journalist and best-selling author in 2011 when undercover north korea, posing as a missionary an english teacher to the sons of the north korean elites. please welcome, suki kim. [applause] >> hello. i just gave away a little bit of your biography in your standing story. which, i as a journalist went to some of these similarly dangerous, oppressive places but never making anything like the commitment you made for taking the level of risk you took. the fact we are here at the museum which is mea

we have the meetings between north korea and south korea.we have the meetings with north korea and china. we have the upcoming meeting with the u.s. and north korea. a lot of this would've happened if we do not think it was possible. happened if weve did not think it was possible. what is the point of doing all this if we cannot have denuclearization? the table is set, the time is right. we have had everyone do their thing with threats. now, let us step back and do what we need to do to make sure that we can come to some decisions and agreements on denuclearization. understanding the past is important. but it should not prevent you from making progress in the future. for that reason, i know you will all vote for the motion that negotiation can lead to negotiation with north korea. [applause] john: thank you, bonnie jenkins. our next debater will be speaking against the motion. negotiations can denuclearize north korea. that is mira rapp-hooper, scholar at yale law. ladies and gentlemen, mira rapp-hooper. [applause] mira: there is no bargain

going into north korea. that will be a mistake because president trump is clearly mentioning there will be no ease of sanction until thort yee steps into the right direction and start denuclearization process. so i hope the president trump and president xi and are on the same page talking about the denuclearization process. and i hope the north korean leader gets on this board. on our side. and make sure that they're on the same page. how the denuclearization process should take place. >> thank you so much for being with us. we're almost out of time. >> we are. jeff zeleny. we have less than 30 seconds for you. what comes next? >> what comes next is really the planning of for that historic summit. the time and date will be announced in the coming days. we believe based on reporting from officials that singapore is a likely spot for the. the question now is that the stakes have been raised, so extraordinarily high with this. the hard work begins and the president clearly he'll be meeting with the south koreae

in south korea there is enormous hope that a seismic shift in the relationship between the two koreas is afoot. because of all the global attention i believe the unification move forward to government is making efforts and i think people are rooting for it. but there is also skepticism and a wait and see approach. is a priest and an activist who participates in frequent protests that she disagrees with president moon's policy of engagement with north korea she worries he's giving kim concessions without compromises in fact she doubts the legitimacy of moon's presidency she says his predecessor president park geun hay was unfairly impeached and removed from office in twenty seventeen in the largest corruption scandal in south korean history. unknown is she knew he lovato. was a cadaver dog major term other would you know able to pick each pair tom tom are you there i'd like to talk a little bit if you don't mind about north korea and the attitudes and feelings that you grew up with with regard to the country later on and to true things even are now under your i wonder you get there wyn

koreas.-republic of alliance has been fortified by the trials of history and is unequivocally stronger than ever. women of theen and u.s. are deployed in korea as part of the ironclad commitment to korea and the entire region. the prospect of peace and security in the korean peninsula and asian region is why we have stood shoulder to shoulder for more than six decades. i have had productive discussions with kim jong-un in preparation for president trump's summit within feud -- summit with him. it was my honor to return with three u.s. citizens and return them to freedom. we wish these americans and their families the best as they reconnect after a very difficult time apart. on behalf of the american people, we say welcome home. these threeof citizens helped set the conditions for successful meeting between president trump and chairman kim. we look forward to continued preparations to make the summit in singapore on june 12 a true success for the american and korean people and the world. i con

of security to north korea they can provide also economic benefits to to north korea of course they cannot completely sums substitute the u.s. but it could be the the core could be moved to china to having a better sense and this comes on the day when we had the reports of journalists going into north korea and seeing tunnels to the supposedly to the north korean nuclear facilities being destroyed so you've got a picture of at least what north korea wants us to think of them trying to get rid of their nuclear weapons research and then you've got the u.s. president canceling a summit with kim jong un so who looks how in this picture i think both sides are to be blamed it's only one side but obviously the north koreans are very much interested in going into the negotiations was an important gesture even though some people say the facilities have been working anyways and that it was an important gesture of good faith by north korea. as they also released the prisoners the u.s. prisoners and all the other things and not so much has been coming back from the u.s. until now and that's wha

president moon of south korea by inviting north korea korea to plicgames was a great ice breaker. let's move forward. the goal is to help facilitate some kind of agreement between north and south korea that we can have a de-escalated and denuclearized korean peninsula. >> our guest with us if you want to ask questions 202-748-800. 1 for republicans and independents 202-748-8002. aside from north korean summit what was your response about the decision to pull out of the iran nuclear deal? >> i think it is something we should have never been in that deal. it was an agreement between president obama, john kerry, susan rice and the iranian regime. it was a poorly written deal. we got nothing out of that m. we heard that for the last 35 years. they have already received three prisoners back whereas iran still has american hostages. one of them is the longest held hostage in our history. iran got pretty much everything they wanted. >> some said they were holding up their end of the deal as far as elements of inspections and in light of that why do you support a pull out of it? >> it was

had said about -- north korea had said about south korea, et cetera. i must say, in watching this press conference, he seemed pretty relaxed. he seemed pretty confident. he seemed pretty positive about it all. he said we'll have to wait and see, maybe it will happen, maybe it won't. he said way more positive things about the prospect of a deal than negative things. he wasn't defensive at all about it. i actually took that as a sign that he's positively disposed that this very well could happen. certainly as hallie says behind closed doors i assure you president moon is telling them everything's good, we've got this, this is going to be great. i'm sure that's the message coming from the south koreans. >> gym, i wajim, the president a change in attitude he witnessed with kim jong-un after that second meeting with china's president. did you notice a change in attitude? >> well, first of all, i noticed that in the press conference. you know, when he is with the foreign leader, it is a roller coaster ride. you never know what's going to happen. this happene

forces there north korea is threatening that they might pull out so we're seeing both north korea and the united states kim jong un and donald trump you know playing a hard negotiation game in the lead up to this planned meeting north korea has repeatedly demanded and to the military drills recently counseling a meeting with the south over them and despite pyongyang threatening to pull the plug on the summit with the u.s. as well the pentagon insists the war games will continue the director of the nuclear studies institute at the american university peter things this could easily stop a top of the summit there's a real possibility the june twelfth summit meeting might be canceled the drills have been planned long in advance of the summit however was a mistake for the trumpet ministration stage these kinds of drills on this scale at this point is her round of war games these military exercises going on between the united. that's in south korea so that's another major provocation to north korea and the hardline statements by john bolton were enough to fuel to actually give more leverage

north korea. he realized if a trade war with china did heat up, china was going put pressure on districts in the united states trump needed in 2020 and beyond. and last but not least, it probably hit his pocketbook. he's got a deal in indonesia with one of the biggest developers there, hare obedobie, and trump's name is on the golf course associated with that project. i think all of this came together in his mind, and he abandoned policy. he abandoned strategy. and he tweeted that he had changed his mind. >> malcolm, the chinese have been studying donald trump and doing a crash course and studying donald trump since he became a front-runner in the presidential campaign. and so they no doubt have a book on him and a book on potential incentives, including his businesses around the world. >> yeah, i believe that, absolutely. you know, in the intelligence community, we work up these biographical dossiers and psychological profiles of national leaders. donald trump's has to be a multivolume set. but i

is ready if serry likewise have spoken to south korea and japan. and they are not only ready should fully sure reckless acts be taken by north korea but they are willing to shoulder much of the cost of any financial burden any of the costs associated. by the united states in operations if such an unfortunate situation is forced upon us hopefully positive things will be taking place with respect to the future of that korean but if they doubt we are more ready than we have ever been before north korea has the opportunity to end decades of poverty and oppression by following the path of denuclearization and joining the community of nations and i hope that kim jong un will ultimately do what is right not only for himself but perhaps most importantly what's right for his people who are suffering greatly and needlessly all of the korean people north and south deserve to be able to live together in harmony prosperity and peace that bright and beautiful future can only happen when the threat of nuclear weapons is removed no way it can happen other ones if

troops in south korea. i don't believe that, but there are those, and i think apparently kim jong-il talk to present that american troops are needed in south korea or on korean peninsula to keep the two koreas separate as well as to check on china. and so strategically, i think there is a lot of questions asked, and to me i tend to imagine that eventually, and i think the professor said this, eventually when everything is said, i would imagine there will have to be questions on the troop presence. clearly, in south korea also there is an extreme group of progressives who did believe that koreans don't have full sovereignty and tell there are no foreign troops in south korea. i think it's a belief among many of us that if there is a peace treaty, certainly china and possibly north korea will demand that there will be no troops there. so it's been a question. it's become a question within the united states, and historically, that has always been true. remember jimmy carter wanting to reduce the troop presence

we have seen that we held the line with both korea and amazingly, north korea has returned three prisoners, even though turkey is a nato ally, they are not responding to specific demands from the president himself. i think we have to do sanctions, we have to hold the line and we have to let turkey know that if they are going to act like an enemy by continuing to hold pastor brunson, we have to terrorist reading that mike one. >> shannon: i know this came as a blow to his family, friends, loved ones, finding out they were shutting the stone again. he's been held for a long time. in the meantime, the president has had good success, the president getting people from dangerous areas where they were being held against his will. he is continuing to intervene, as you are. cece heil, please keep us updated. >> thank you so much, shannon, for covering this really important case. >> shannon: thank you very much. it is time now for where in the world. the families of americans being held in iran now are speaking out in hopes of getting the trump administration to push for their loved ones released. f