so what you had in kosovo is a situation where neither side came off very well and backing the kosovo liberation army the united states and the european union made itself complicit in mass ethnic cleansing in other atrocities. i fear that that's a possibility in libya and that we don't really know that much about the opposition and we've got a clearly more market doth he's a very unsavory and brutal leader we know that but there is a danger that the opposition may also commit ugly atrocities and then backing the opposition which again we just don't know that much about the west may be setting itself up for becoming and that's a very just moment let me jump in here and see if we go to a short break after the actual break we'll continue our discussion on the intervention in libya stay with our. there is not enough space for them on the ground. down to. get things nonexistent under the sun. fill the gap of adrenaline to. discover deeply hidden secrets. they are seen to. find. and even. talking to god. from. under the road to. wealthy british soil samples and pass the time to the times. m

's broke away from serbia unilaterally three years ago -- kosovo broke away from serbia unilaterally three years ago. to addressempting day-to-day issues. >> after three years of conflict, this was the first time that syria and kosovo had engaged in face-to-face talks. led by the european union, the hope is that today are moving closer to membership -- the hope is that they are moving closer to membership and make give ground on certain issues. they will skirt around the core issue of independence. serbia says kosovo is still its own province, but those of us as the issue of independence is not negotiable. >> there are some great proposals from both sides. we will continue working on them and the implementation when the time comes. what i need to say now is that there are some topics on which we are getting closer than some others. >> a first try perhaps to address the practical issues which might have improved the lives of citizens, advance our agenda to the european union. >> so they left, buoyed by a seemingly fruitful burst round, a hugely significant moment for both -- first rou

so what you had in kosovo is a situation where neither side came off very well and in back of the kosovo liberation army the united states and the european union made itself complicit in mass ethnic cleansing and other atrocities. i fear that that's a possibility in libya and that we don't really know that much about the opposition and the ghazi clearly moammar gadhafi is a very unsavory i do the leader we know that but there is a danger the opposition may also commit ugly atrocities and then back into the opposition which again we just don't know that much about the west may be setting itself up for became infamous here in just a moment let me jump in here so you know sure break after the actual break we'll continue our discussion on the intervention in libya stay with our. case. into the country. in the invasion by means of. tradition. the language is really you. just did the beat. and culture. thing is that the how the germans are still unaware of what's going on in their minds silastic much. i don't know anything about alaska the great. h. i'm arriving here broadcasting live from was

so what you had in kosovo is a situation where neither side came off very well and backing the kosovo liberation army the united states and the european union made itself complicit in mass ethnic cleansing and other atrocities. i fear that that's a possibility in libya and that we don't really know that much about the opposition and we've got the clearly more market duffy's a very unsavory and brutal leader we know that but there is a danger there at the opposition may also commit ugly atrocities and then backing the opposition which again we just don't know that much about the west may be setting itself up for became infamous at the very just moment let me jump in here and say i want to assure break after the actual break we'll continue our discussion on the intervention in libya stay with r.t. . if you. think you can. keep your social and he have your i pod touch from the q sampson. our chief all. video on demand tease minefield costs an r.s.s. feeds now in the palm of your. question. call. for the full story we've made for. the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the

so what you had in kosovo is a situation where neither side came off very well and backing the kosovo liberation army the united states and the european union made itself complicit in mass ethnic cleansing another atrocity and. i fear that that's a possibility in libya and that we don't really know that much about the opposition and we've got the clearly more market duffy's a very unsavory and brutal leader we know that but there is a danger that the opposition may also commit ugly atrocities and then back into the opposition which again we just don't know that much about the west may be setting itself up for it became infamous here in just a moment let me jump in here and we're going to assure break after the actual break we'll continue our discussion on the intervention in libya stay with our. case. ok charlie here broadcasting live from washington d.c. coming up today on the big picture. the low. bringing you the latest in science and technology from around the world. we. covered. if. it is easy to. leave. the ultimate. leg. length the welcome back to cross talk about remind you we

serbia and kosovo are holding talks for the first time since kosovo declared itself independent three years ago the e.u. is mediating negotiations as relations between the two sides remain tense with serbia denying kosovo sovereignty for that reason the focus will be on more day to day issues including trade an air traffic conflict between the two lead in the one nine hundred ninety s. left thousands dead most of them ethnic albanians before kosovo was placed under un control. dozens of exiled tibetan activists have been detained by police at a protest outside the chinese embassy in india around sixty tibetans took over a lawrence near the embassy where they shouted anti china slogans the demonstration was held on the eve of the upcoming anniversary of a failed to bed an uprising against chinese rule in two thousand and eight in which twenty two people were killed. finally this news block exposing government secrets is risky business as the founder of wiki leaks found out and even in this dangerous field there are a few veterans lauren lyster takes a tour with one old school whistlebl

serbia and kosovo are holding talks for the first time since kosovo declared itself independent three years ago and he was mediating negotiations as relations between both sides remain tense with serbia denied. in kosovo sovereignty for that reason the focus is on more day to day issues including trade an air traffic conflict between the two with the ninety's left thousands dead mostly ethnic albanians before kosovo was placed under un control. dozens of to bed now act of exiled tibetan activists have been detained by police at a protest outside the chinese embassy in india around sixty tibetans took over the rons near the embassy where they shouted anti china slogans the demonstration was held on the eve of the upcoming out of a story of a failed to bed an uprising against chinese rule in two thousand and eight which twenty two people killed. me to read dimitri medvedev goes up next with our latest business news stay with us here on our. own welcome to business i'd say good to have your company russia's economy seeing a windfall from the steep rise in global energy prices that's on t

another conflict in which the pleated you raney and weapons were officially used was the war in kosovo in one nine hundred ninety nine. in reprisal for ethnic cleansing policies against albanian coasts of ours nato planes bombed serbian forces and yugoslav infrastructure. in that campaign survey in armored tanks in vehicles were attacked with the human issues. a few months later the media reported an unusually high rate of leukemia and other cancers in the european veterans who had served in kosovo talian french spanish and others the term balkan syndrome was coined several organizations began to call for a ban on de u.s. . naval had to call a meeting of the atlantic council to appease its allies once again the message was contradictory they had knowledge the risks but downplayed them. we are confident that there is little risk for dui munitions but we refuse to be complacent. existing medical consensus is clear the hazard from depleted uranium is both very limited and limited to very specific circumstances but nature is doing everything it can to ensure that relevant information is ma

even going back under kosovo war. i guess one big problem i have with this particular intervention is that it's being sold as a humanitarian intervention but at the same time it appears that we some of the coalition partners are interested in regime change and they really want to get out so it's not going to protect civilians you know. and it's unclear and i'm not supposed to be the humanitarian mission for the war but it's unclear how the war until is supposed to be achieved humanitarian effect we're going to create a partition in libya or to throw it are you working do something else. that my biggest problem in terms are referring to this as a humanitarian by now i think we should honor to take everything with a grain of salt however they try to label it for us right we found out there are no w m d's in iraq you find out that there wasn't necessarily genocide there was a civil war going on in kosovo and here also you have to question yeah quick point i mean there is a great lawyer within the american political tradi

joined our nato allies in airstrikes against serbian forces responsible for the brutality in kosovo we have acted with resolve for several reasons. we had to protect thousands of innocent people in kosovo from a mounting military offensive we act to prevent a wider war just how lied that war got continues to be debated was and then there's somalia intervention there led to the death of nineteen americans two black hawk helicopters were also shot down and the civil war there is pretty much still going on so much of the american people expect well if history is any indication then what is limited is also relative. christine for is now r t. so gentlemen no one can seem to make up their mind because nobody has the answer as to how long this might last what is obama going to say tonight what should he say tonight to try to address some of those concerns he's going to say it's not our fault that his entire plan is i'm not responsible this this is not america's war this is the international community's war so we're handing off control we'll provide support and we want to save those civilia

police say the suspect, 21-year-old arid uka is a citizen of kosovo, an airport employee and a devout muslim. they say he had argued with the airmen outside the terminal before pulling out a handgun and

first talks since kosovo declared itself independent three years ago serbia has refused to recognize the sovereignty but the e.u. mediated talks were reportedly sidestepped that you spew instead discussions will focus on issues including trade an air traffic control thousands of people were killed in the conflict between the two when the ninety's kosovo was later placed under the un role. a massive explosion in pakistan's third largest city has killed at least twenty people injured one hundred police a car bomb was detonated at a petrol station causing several gas cylinders to explode resulting blast flipped cars and collapse nearby buildings authorities say the nearby offices of the country's main intelligence agency may have been the target. australia's state of queensland is once again being hit by torrential rains spawning yet more floods there's been one confirmed death after a woman was swept from her car when she became trapped in the raging floodwaters hundreds of homes and businesses are again deluged in the region recovering from statewide floods and more recently the devas

of the thousands dead most of them ethnic albanians before kosovo was placed under un control. dozens of exiled tibetan activists have been detained by police at a protest outside the chinese embassy in india around six. the tibetans took over the lawns near the embassy where they shouted the china slogans demonstration was held on the eve of the upcoming anniversary of the failed to but not rising against chinese in two thousand and eight in which treaty to kill. thousands of muslim refugees escaping violence in north africa found their way to europe what they will find our nations already struggling to live with immigrant populations in the british television their knowledge of muslim community is now being confronted by strong far right sentiments artes nor emmett's takes a look. mosques hate jobs and how well neat shops as seen straight from the bazaars of the orient but this is luton north of london home to some twenty five thousand muslims of british and other origins one of them was time or. better known now as the stock home bomber abdul qadeer pax knew him and describe

the gunman, a cause of the naonal, is now in police -- a kosovo national, is now in police custody. >> the vessel came under attack outside frankfurt airport's terminal 2. the suspect approached the bus and shot the first victim outside the vehicle. he then shot and kild the driver in his seat. two other soldiers were seriously wounded. police arrested the suspect, who they identified as a 21-year-old man from kosovo who lives in frankfurt. the state interior minister said the gunman's motive was not yet clear. >> i have no way of determining whether there was a terrorist, the hottest -- jihadist, or islamist background to the shooting. >> authorities have stepped up security. >> german chancellor merkle has confirmed a minor cabinet restructure after the resignation of defense minister karl-theodor zu guttenberg. the current interior minister, thomas de maiziere, will take over the defense portfolio. he will be replaced as interior minister by friedrich, the minister of the csu. earlier, we talked to our political correspondent and ask how strong the cabinet looks now, after this res

joined our nato allies and air strikes against serbia and forces responsible for the brutality in kosovo march two thousand and eleven america's next democratic president and a new coalition of the willing attack libya the un security council passed a strong resolution that demands and to the violence against others. it authorizes the use of force if it was sanctioned by the one security council in contrast to the bombings of the slavia there was no such greenlighted in one thousand nine hundred ninety one means one led by nido the first time a military alliance atop a sovereign nation a non nato member causing no threat to the group similarly libya poses no external threat and there are other striking parallels between the conduct of these wars the enemy then slobbered on the loss of each job the new hitler the enemy of today the eccentric moammar qaddafi and power for over forty years as much as kathy is does john galliano trashed freak show he modernized leave us for a while now similarly villainize to pry the us colonel qadhafi base to step down from power and leave the goal now and

we've done if in kosovo, iraq, we caged saddam hussein. there's a possibility -- >> should under what a no-fly zone is. no fly means the enemies cannot -- the case of gaddafi, he cannot fly, but we can fly. that's what no-fly means. it doesn't mean we can't fly. it means the enemy can't fly. that's what obama wants. that's what he has got. >> it's not the first time that the u.s. has done that. we've done that in bosnia, in kosovo, in iraq. >> and hillary clinton said it never worked. [everyone talking at once] >> go ahead. >> by the way, we've done these no-fly zones over the former yugoslavia, iraq. it doesn't necessarily prevent the kind of humanitarian slaughter that we're trying to prevent here. two differences between reagan and obama. number one, american ready. reagan didn't wait for international stamp of approval to move. and number two, with reagan, there was a clear mission, a clear strategy, and clear american presidential leadership. we've had none of that in this case. >> that was before 9/11. >> it doesn't matter! you can a

his parents moved to germany decades ago, from kosovo. last night, his relatives in kosovo said they could not imagine something like this could happen because they said, americans are their brothers. this investigation is continuing. but as of now, officials say there's no reason to think that the gunman acted as part of a larger terrorism plot. peggy and mike? >> all right, emily. live from washington this morning. thank you. >>> in libya, the fighting between rebels and forces loyal to mommar gadhafi is escalating. gadhafi is making good on his threat to quote, until the last man or woman. thousands filled the square in the heart of tripoli last night, waving the libyan flag. gadhafi threatened to turn his country into another vietnam, if the u.s. intervened. >>> and there's been a legal setback in efforts to free a cia contractor held in pakistan. a court ruled today that ray davis is not protected by diplomatic immunity in the shooting deaths of two pakistani. a higher court could reverse that decision. davis says that he acted in se

we've done if in kosovo, iraq, we caged saddam hussein. there's a possibility -- >> should under what a no-fly zone is. no fly means the enemies cannot -- the case of gaddafi, he cannot fly, but we can fly. that's what no-fly means. it doesn't mean we can't fly. it means the enemy can't fly. that's what obama wants. that's what he has got. >> it's not the first time that the u.s. has done that. we've done that in bosnia, in kosovo, in iraq. >> and hillary clinton said it never worked. [everyone talking at once] >> go ahead. >> by the way, we've done these no-fly zones over the former yugoslavia, iraq. it doesn't necessarily prevent the kind of humanitarian slaughter that we're trying to prevent here. two differences between reagan and obama. number one, american ready. reagan didn't wait for international stamp of approval to move. and number two, with reagan, there was a clear mission, a clear strategy, and clear american presidential leadership. we've had none of that in this case. >> that was before 9/11. >> it doesn't matter! you can a

forces joined our nato allies in airstrikes against serbian forces responsible for the brutality in kosovo president george w. bush said it was weapons of mass destruction that threaten the world and invaded iraq in what was supposed to be a quick and limited campaign on the orders coalition forces have begun striking selected targets some military importance undermine saddam hussein's ability to wage war most thought it would end there with president obama running on an anti-war platform he has spent most of his presidency trying to end the wars started by his predecessor until now the u.n. security council passed a strong resolution that demands an end to the violence against such pts. it authorizes the use of force in the timeline of recent history there have been some glaring similarities when it comes to the youth of course are u.s. presidents none have been in response to a military attack or even threat of an attack on u.s. soil none have ever been formally declared wars we have to protect thousands of innocent people who kosovo from a mounting military offensive we are determined t

soil and none have ever been formally declared war we are to protect thousands of innocent people in kosovo from a mounting military offensive we are determined to knock out saddam hussein's nuclear bomb potential we will also destroy his chemical weapons facilities self defense is not only our right it is our duty the definition of duty often changing the result eerily parallel thank you god bless you. god. thank you very much christine for r t. russia as the u.n. military intervention in libya is a result of colonel gadhafi his crimes against his own people but president michel medvedev also criticized the coalition bombing saying the no fly zone was meant to strengthen peace and that civilians should not be put at risk. just like everything that's happening in libya is a result of the shameful behavior of its government and the crimes against their own people we shouldn't forget that everything else is just a consequence of that we supported one of the un security council resolutions and allowed the other resolution to go through this was done consciously to prevent the escalation of vio

and none have ever been formally declared wars we had to protect thousands of innocent people in kosovo from a mounting military offensive we are determined to knock out sat on hussein's nuclear bomb potential we will also destroy his chemical weapons facilities self defense is not only our right it is our duty the definition of duty often changing the result eerily parallel thank you god bless you. god. thank you very much christine for sound r t. russia has rolled out participating in the coalition operation in libya saying it is not producing the expected results from mr putin agree the protection of libyan civilians is paramount but simply achieves at a cost to innocent lives. there's a civil war going on in libya the proposal of a no fly zone was aimed at preventing gadhafi from firing at his opponents and so protect civilians such a decision applied to a sovereign state is a difficult one but the aim was well intentioned but what are we seeing now that it is strikes on the entire territory of the country and how can it be aiming to protect civilians such means are choosing not to

and none have ever been formally declared wars we are to protect thousands of innocent people in kosovo from a mounting military offensive we are determined to knock out satam hussein's nuclear bomb potential we will also destroy his chemical weapons facilities self defense is not only our right it is our duty the definition of duty often changing the result eerily parallel thank you god bless you. god. thank you very much christine for r.t.d. . more insight into the situation in libya coming up next hour in fact unpaid lavelle show cross tool which offers a variety as ever of opinions on this edition some very intense debate. we're seeing a complete meltdown of authoritarian rule in north africa and in the middle east what does the united states or our allies do sit back and let it occur when people are rising up and asking for help in atrocities are being made against their people by their own governments this is essentially dressed up as a humanitarian mission and the days and weeks to come will show that the libyan people will pay a very heavy price not only for a couple of these cr

and none have ever been formally declared wars we had to protect thousands of innocent people in kosovo from a mounting military offensive we are determined to knock out saddam hussein's nuclear bomb potential we will also destroy his chemical weapons facilities self defense is not only our right it is our duty the definition of duty often changing the results eerily parallel thank you god bless you. god. thank you very much christine r.t. . u.s. congressman dennis kucinich it's time for washington to think of diplomatic methods to ease tensions in the muslim world rather than cultivate conflict. we are in a fourth war here a fourth priest got a compact plus iraq and afghanistan. we do these wars and the united states does not have unlimited power we should be trying to find a way to effect. with the muslim community worldwide which means getting out of afghanistan out of iraq out of. away from the explained current and pakistan doesn't mean ceding to terrorism and work with the world community and this is a massive intervention already in the name of a no fly zone which isn't like tell

and one that's ten years ago the same for iraq we've taken in two thousand and three we're still in kosovo after the attack of nine hundred ninety nine once you start an intervention it's very difficult to win and i'm afraid i'm appalled to see that once again western states are making this mistake they're going lightly into war and not thinking about the future or how to get out of the situation that they've created and indeed you are not the only expert drawing parallels between iraq afghanistan and libya john laughlin live from paris thanks for that. well to me david video says developments in libya a result of the shameful behavior of the country's government and crimes against its people russia's president has also called for extreme accuracy when judging what's happening in countries like libya. and should give it a whirl and that is because i would like to see viewers worries about the situation that we currently have in libya and iran libya is used to the russian federation from the very beginning little when one in your problem really there is solution of this problem to take plac

serbia and kosovo have started their first talk since the breakaway region unilaterally unilaterally declared its independence three years ago discussions will focus on the political issues of regional cooperation reform freedom of movement and the rule of law kosovo was rejecting any questions over its sovereignty which serbia still doesn't recognize talks follow pressure from the e.u. which both countries hope to join. scuffles i've broken out between refugees a new tunisian border camp thousands of foreign nationals from bangladesh and vietnam are trying to leave the refugee camps having fled from the violence in libya some hope to fly out of the country today but witnesses say there are still about sixteen thousand people still there. and in ten minutes time the kaiser report is in north africa to wonder whether a full scale economic growth old could be the solution to toppling corrupt bigwigs in big banks. max geyser this is the kaiser report coming to you from cairo egypt behind me the october sixth the bridge this is where millions of revolutionaries stormed in and took over a

resulted in hundreds of civilian deaths so it did manage to forcibly draw of yugoslav forces from kosovo let's talk to our balkans expert. to see if any parallels can be drawn. marco and we know it was a typo and yugoslavia at the time caused a lot of criticism from nations and human rights groups to do just justified such monetary admissions like we saw maybe like we're seeing now. i would say that such interventions are. never justified because they represent a huge investment on the part of those intervening and that they only justify themselves in terms of their ability to achieve the aims of the intervenors which are always strategic designs of position themselves into occupation positions in strategically vital areas of the world so in terms of how they benefit the local population the answer is not at all in fact they are always very negative afghanistan in one thousand nine hundred ninety interventions then led to the thirty years and still ongoing instability in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine is still a fake state of desperate poverty and desperate crime in all that entir

soil none have ever been formally declared wars we are prepared thousands of innocent people in kosovo from a mounting military offensive we are determined to knock out saddam hussein's nuclear bomb potential we will also destroy his chemical weapons facilities self defense is not only our right it is our duty the definition of duty often changing the result eerily parallel thank you god bless you. thank you very much christine. our team. still ahead an r.t.s. striking hard in libya american and allied forces pushed to quote liberate civilians but is this really a humanitarian intervention or the opening up the floodgates to yet another american war. plus while the united nations calls for protection of human rights in libya what about the rights of an imprisoned whistleblower right here at home after next see how far protesters went this weekend to plait private first class bradley manning the dramatic arrest i want to go marine base coming up next. a charmer over here broadcasting live from washington d.c. coming up today on the big picture. so the subsidy it's the. fees so what driv