i think there is an also legitimate conversation debate to be had when dan sachi koto is not the bestage. lz said he has always been in your face kind of guy but i would say he has gone further than in your face. he licked the door nobodi knobs previous candidate to get a candidate sick when dan savage was himself sick. he is way behind a journalist and much more like an advocate and beyond an advocate. we shouldn't be surprised but i don't think his role is something wholly accepted and embraced. >> it makes you wonder, lz, why this guy was invited to speak before a group of high school students. >> right. >> well, as i said, i mean, he is a really good father for one. two, he's a very strong advocate for kids. so we shouldn't confuse the work he has done over his life span with this or other incidents in which he has taken it over the top. at the core of his work, if someone is very passionate about protecting people who don't have a voice for themselves and i would hate that campaign to get tarnished what he did at the high school because he really is a very strong advocate, one of