in their survey -- not one said that they had heard about the computer science field through /koupcounselor at their school. now, that's problem /ph problematic. no one had told them so it really is educating our high school counselors, or college and career counselors, our career tech education folks on -- these are viable opportunities for our students and we need to present it to them and find places to expose them to this because 75 percent of engineers say they come from families of engineers and so they need that exposure and we want our students to have that exposure. and that was our only topic and again it was deep and it was interesting and we had lots of different perspectives so again, i wanna thank the leadership for bringing this tommic and inviting the special guests to comment on it as well. >> thank you for that report. commissioner wynn from the budget committee. >> thank you. so we met last week. we mostly just talked about -- our deputy superintendent gave us an estimate that they would be recommending or trying /o -- we would be trying to find in our budget the ability