liz: steve, when you heard gary kozlowski hearing go with the safe haven plays, what do you advise yourents right now? >> just picking on the china theme, i want to emphasize they've had zero correlation to the u.s. stock market, and while the u.s. stock market has been hitting new highs, china is still 40% off of its all-time highs. china's up about 30%, but the last few times it was up -- liz: well, then would you go with what we have on the screen which is the fxi, you can buy a bassett of chinese-related stocks, and you're not buying -- well, you're close to the year high, but you're still buying at a slight discount to the all-time high. >> right. in the case of fxi, you're buying hong kong-listed china companies. i think that's a much safe or play in single digit multiples, but i would recommend buying locally. in the u.s. you can buy ashr, and you'll have much more upside potential in the local chinese stocks than the fxi. liz: the annual high for that, ashr, is $36, and it opened today at 32. >> but it's 40% below the index it tracks. liz: right. okay, there you go. a nice year-