kpix channel 5. if you want to purchase books or cds there is the e-mail address and phone number or call ... >>> we are talking with dr. jeff burns. i will hold up his book this is one of the ones published in 2003, it is a very eclectic collection of essays, published in the archdiocese of san francisco newspaper that year. where you know, really we have experienced the recession in the beginning of this year, and wanted to talk about the last historical depression. what was archbishop hanna's role in the 1930s? >> he became archbishop 1915 and was the most beloved of all the san francisco archbishops. people loved him as a personment now they are past that but before it was archbishop hanna he was very good with the people so part of what he did was similar to roosevelt was to lift the spirits of the people, as sure them even though these were difficult times he would be there with them. he served in a number of capacities in a state level, state committee for unemployment and so forth but this la