everything from tiny pockets of land in the netherlands, like the kraansvlak being rewilded. now in europe as there are in north america and almost ten times as many brown bears, which are a cousin of the grizzly, than in north america. europe is showing the way as to how we can live with wilder landscapes again and apex predators. so the whole sort of shebang, the whole hierarchy of life is now kicking off in europe. and we're showing how densely populated countries can now live with that wilder landscape. a final thought. in this interview, you've said to me several times, "we have to understand our planet is burning." and you describe this in a way as some sort of reaction to the urgency of the climate change challenge. but i would put it to you that, in a way, the existential, urgent climate emergency surely overwhelms what you are doing, because however hard you try to reintroduce lost species to this particular chunk of land, if warming is happening at the speed and at the scale that we believe it is, no amount of efforts like yours are going to undo the damage to ecosy