this morning we had a guy named, this guy on frayed kraemer on "access hollywood live" this morning. love the idea that kraemer is protesting with george and they both end up in a paddy wagon going to jail. sounds like seinfeld. they do get into the paddy wagon together and fred kraemer was telling us how george was loosening up the crowd and keeping things warm in there and because they were on government property they were arrested by secret service and not the police. and when they asked for their names clooney spat out brad pitt to try and set up his pal and take a pass. they all went in and shared a cell together for a matter of hours. you've got martin luther king iii and you've got, you know, government reps, a serious group of people in here and they said what they did is used the time wisely. they pulled up a table and chairs and they got around together and they discussed what's the next step in our stance against the sudan government? they used it wisely and there turned out to be i think sometimes it's hard getting a lot of powerful people in a room together. >> yeah. how

since we have been gathering information, at least that is relatively accurate, use kraemer is at its lowest point ever reported. whatever has happened and no one has a complete explanation as to why that has occurred. it has occurred nationally and in san francisco. however, in saying that, i also may want to address some things that may be related and may not be related to why that crime wenrate went down. much of our public policy has been based on the idea that if you pass harsher laws, incarcerate more people, that will drive down the crime rate. i can tell you unequivocally, there is no research that supports that and not in the area of juvenile justice. my agency has been tracking this for 15 years. as the state of california has been essentially eliminating its youth correctional system, what we used to call the california youth authority, we call the division of juvenile justice in our system -- our system of 11 institutions, there are three. we have gone from 10,000 kids in cursor did to 1000 today. it is continuing to drop and the governor is pushing for the proposal to clo