and what i did was i traveled to krakow and in krakow, the former concentration camp is not existing anymore. what you have there today, there's only a statue, a memorial where you can go. and when i understood that i have to leave the past behind, but i don't want to forget, i felt that it would be a good thing to lay there flowers, to lay flowers, to have a symbolic act somehow to go on with my life, but not to forget and to honor the victims, but to go on and live in the future and try to see what i can do with my story. and somehow turn it around, you know, make something positive out of it. >> c-span: you tell us in the book you were born in 1970. if i do the math correctly, that makes you 45? >> c-span: when did you find out about the fact that your great - your grandfather was amon goeth? >> guest: i was 38. >> c-span: and you lead off the book with it, but where did - where did it happen and how did it happen? >> guest: it happened on a sunny day in august and -- >> c-span: what city? >> guest: it was in hamburg. it's still - it's still my hometown. it was regular, an ordinar