how local officials judged absentee ballots on election day and there are about 10 citations to the kranick script where i tried to get that evidence in, and repeatedly could not. it refused to admit absentee ballots that failed to meet script -- script -- strict compliance standards. i couldn't get it in, i tried to the point where i strained the court's patience. i don't want to go further than that. these judges were well tempered. >> let me explore that with you. i am still hung up on this c-1013. let me put it this way. is it your contention that all you need to show is that there is a ballot that doesn't have a signature on it to prove up that it was -- that it was improperly accepted by an election official? or do you concede that you have to show that it was otherwise improperly accepted? what i am getting at, there could be other explanations. as al franken's lawyer argues, every ballot tell the story. we don't have the story so how do we judge? >> first of all, that might be the biggest non sequitur in anglo-american jurisprudence. every ballot doesn't tell a story. whether a ball