then charles krauthammer on how much millionaires should pay in taxes. factor continues after these announunununun developing stories coming out of poverty land as well as north korea. >> thanks for staying with us. i'm bill o'reilly in the is it legal segment tonight. main now legal in colorado washington state and colorado. will drive under evident continuably under the influence of pot. in denver they haven't defined any drugging and pot laws that is incredible. joining us now from new york attorneys and fox news analysts lis wiehl. are you kidding me wiehl? you can get stoned in colorado, rockie mountain my. get in your car, all right? zoom around and the cops pull you over, nothing happens to you. >> well, not exactly, yes, they legalize marijuana. they did not legalize driving stoned. the problem is they didn't pass a law. the legislature did not pass a law saying what driving stoned means. >> let me stop you. what do you mean not exactly. i described it exactly the way it is. there is no law on the books about driving under the influence of mariju

then charles krauthammer on how much millionaires should pay in taxes.ctor continues after these announunununununun developing stories coming out of poverty land as well as north korea. >> thanks for staying with us. i'm bill o'reilly in the is it legal segment tonight. main now legal in colorado washington state and colorado. will drive under evident continuably under the influence of pot. in denver they haven't defined any drugging and pot laws that is incredible. joining us now from new york attorneys and fox news analysts lis wiehl. are you kidding me wiehl? you can get stoned in colorado, rockie mountain my. get in your car, all right? zoom around and the cops pull you over, nothing happens to you. >> well, not exactly, yes, they legalize marijuana. they did not legalize driving stoned. the problem is they didn't pass a law. the legislature did not pass a law saying what driving stoned means. >> let me stop you. what do you mean not exactly. i described it exactly the way it is. there is no law on the books about driving under the influence of marij

so charles krauthammer and bill o'reilly are right on the same page here. we don't mind laws that will work. but just laws that give the government more power and take the power away from the individual, no. >> and bring me impeercal evidence. >> bill: next up, lou dobbs on the latest and the outrangeious budget debate. will libya deal before we get hammered? is it legal investigating how that mother of the newtown killer was able to obtain an assault rifle. we're coming right back >> announcer: 'tis the season of more-- more shopping, more dining out... and along with it, more identity theft. by the time this holiday season is over, an estimated 1.2 million identities may be stolen. every time you pull out your wallet, shop online or hit the road, you give thieves a chance to ruin your holiday. by the time you're done watching this, as many as 40 more identities may be stolen. you can't be on the lookout 24/7, but lifelock can. they're relentless about protecting your identity every minute of every day. when someone tries to take over your bank accounts, d

then charles krauthammer on how much millionaires should pay in taxes.actor continues after these announcements. >> this is a fox news alert. hello, everyone. i'm marcel neville reporting from new york. we are following breaking news. in portland, oregon, where a person opening fire inside a mall. now, police say at least one person is dead and unknown number of other folks are injured. you can imagine this happening on wednesday before -- tuesday, pardon me before christmas, big christmas weekend shopping. kids are there to see santa friends are there taking families to mall. it's happening outside of the food mart. it's happening at the clackamas shopping center. the gunman -- we don't know the gender yet but has been neutralized. policemen not confirming whether or not the gunman is dead. just saying that the gunman has been neutralized. people on 00 scene are saying at least 60 shots were fired. the gunman was using a semiautomatic rifle wearing cam fallujah outfit and a mask. several ambulances are are on scene there entrances to the mall have been

charles krauthammer will tell us where the all money is going. also tonight a mother in louisiana puts a nude picture of her teenage daughter on facebook. is it legal on the case? caution, you where to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly, thanks for watching us tonight. america and personal responsibility. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. immediately after belcher killed his girlfriend and shot himself excuses started. trotted out by a variety of pundits. here is the fact. belcher is solely responsible for the horrendous crime which orphaned his baby daughter. he did it he knew right from wrong, he he chose, he chose to inflict lethal damage. there is no question that belcher was mentally imbalanced you don't do what he did when you are in control of yourself. to blame society or guns or football is grossly irresponsible. tomorrow bob costas will appear on the factor to explain his remarks. he finds himself in the middle of a controversy we are anxious to hear his point of

krauthammer on deck. how much should millionaires pay in taxes? how much should we pay?rles up next. [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus presents the cold truth. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ sighs ] thanks! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus. ♪ oh what a relief it is! ♪ [ male announcer ] to learn more about the cold truth hannity at 9:00 and i will keep you updated. >> back of the book segment tonight, president obama insists he will raise taxes on wealthy americans. but how much is fair? here now fox news analyst charles krauthammer. let's break this down. fair is a subjective word. anybody is say that is fair. that's not fair. i would say most millionaires in america pay between 20 and 30% for the federal gove

charles krauthammer and i will discuss it. >> he is not a gun runner and you know. he should be released immediately. >> bill: with seven days until christmas, will the mexican government release marine corporal jon hammer from prison? this is a terrible miscarriage of justice. and president obama should get involved. we'll have the latest from the corporal's parents. >> i know what you're thinking. did he fire six shots or only five? ask yourself one question, do i feel lucky? >> bill: do you recall tradition violent movies and video games incite psychopaths to commit crimes. quentin terrentino and jamie fox are under pressure. we'll tell you what's going on. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. "the factor" begins right now. >> bill: hi. i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight's. the truth about guns, murder and children in the usa. that is a subject of this evening's talking points memo. emotions running high after 20 children were murdered in newtown, connecticut. the president, congress and we the people all want to do something construct

so charles krauthammer and bill o'reilly are right on the same page here.don't mind laws that will work. but just laws that give the government more power and take the power away from the individual, no. >> and bring me impeercal evidence. >> bill: next up, lou dobbs on the latest and the outrangeious budget debate. will libya deal before we get hammered? is it legal investigating how that mother of the newtown killer was able to obtain an assault rifle. we're coming right back we are the house when it comes to the big game. yeah. it's his thing. i don't even participate. boom! here it comes! bring it back! bring it home! [ male announcer ] when you combine creamy velveeta with zesty rotel tomatoes and green chilies, you get a bowl of queso that makes even this get-together better. but since i've been on alli, am i on this one? nope. am i on this one? no, no, no, no, no. i am on this one. [ male announcer ] for every 2 pounds you lose through diet and exercise alli can help you lose one more by blocking some of the fat you eat. simple. effective. belt-frien

he was getting counseling. >> i am not as smart as charles krauthammer but i will say this.w how to smash his computers he knew how to get body protection, he played a an especially brutal game. it breaks up marriages. if my kid was mentally unbalanced i was working 24-hours a day to make them unbalanced i would not train them to use lethal weapons. >> wouldn't you have locked your guns up? >> are we assuming -- we are doing the exact thing aren't we jumping to a conclusion he was mentally ill. clearly he had issues. was he diagnosed? was he on medications? >> i can't remember if it was written byron in the national journal or tweeted by him. it was about let's not jump to conclusions here about a link i think he was saying in the "washington post" there isn't necessarily a link between autism and violence or asperger's and violence. i think it's smart to take a step baccalaureate the investigators do the police work they kneed and let's get some psychiatrists, people together to see what do we need to do to try to help these families prevent tragedies like this. >> started

charles krauthammer is here to analyze the anointed >> after he so selfishly cut short his christmashe's back in washington for the last minute fight over the looming fiscal cliff. but both sides of the aisle say there's no deal in site. it makes us wonder what has the president been doing and what has he accomplished up to this point? should he have jetted off for a tropical vacation and a little r and r this joining me now, the one and only charles krauthammer. charles, merry christmas and happy new year. >> thank you very much. you too. >> let's look at the politics of this. we saw what happened with the plan b. the senate has not passed a budget in over 1300 days. president goes off, 18 hours on the golf course, 20 hours in the air. how do you view this politically and should republicans even consider that? >> well, i don't begrudge him his holiday. i do begrudge what he's done in this fiscal cliff talks. it's been very clear from the beginning that he had no intention to solve the fiscal issues. he's been using this, and i must say with great skill and ruthless skill and success

this week, charles krauthammer pick won with 74% of the vote. get to that in a second.latest on the supreme court and gay marriage. nina, the supreme court will take up a couple of cases in the spring session. one about proposition 8 in california, defense of marriage act. how do you think the supreme court will rule here? give me a bet. if they uphold the lower court rulings does it oop the flood gates? >> the reason that gay marriage hasn't provoked a civil war the way abortion did, it hasn't been imposed by the supreme court or major could recall. what is done is we have been going state by state. mostly by voters. couple cases state court but mostly by voters. if the court does impease gay marriage throughout the country, it will be an, explosive political issue. >> john: charles? >> the supreme court signaled today it's ware of that dange danger. out added two questions this the party themselves had not added to the case asking whether or not faye, the federal court should have jurisdiction over this. whether the parties were appropriately before the court et ceter

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time now to take a look at who is talking and this morning we are hearing from charles krauthammer. >> last night on hannity he was talking about the looming fiscal cliff and the president's approach to negotiations. krauthammer giving his take on why a deal has not been reached yet. >> it has been very clear from the beginning that he had no intention to solve the fiscal issues. he has been using this and i must say with great skill and ruthless skill and success to fracture and basically shatter the republican opposition, the only redut of the opposition is the house. his objective from the very beginning is to break the will of republicans in the house and create an internal civil war. he has done that right up until now obama has what he wanted which is a partisan political success. he has been less worried about the fiscal issue for two reasons number one he does not care about debt. he hasn't in the four years, and number two, he thinks he's a political winner if we go over the cliff. he thinks he's holding all of the cards. >>> house gop leaders have decided to have the house o

charles krauthammer writes this in "the washington post." "roots of mass murder. entertainment culture soaked in graphic, often sadistic violence. older folks find themselves stunned by what a desensitized youth finds routine, often amusing. it's not just movies. young men sit for hours pulling video game triggers, mowing down human beings en masse without pain or consequence. and we profess shock when a small cadre of unstable, deeply deranged, dangerously isolated young men go out and enact the overlearned narrative. if we are serious about curtailing future columbines and newtowns, everything, guns, commitment, culture, must be on the table. it's not hard for president obama to call out the nra, but will he call out the aclu? and will he call out his hollywood friends?" i couldn't agree more. >> how exciting to me that a guy i have deep respect for, that a lot of liberals just don't like. charles krauthammer, my favorite columnist, how exciting that he's talking about a plan that looks at guns, at mental health. and at graphic violence. and he put it best. i me

charles krauthammer, thanks so much for being with us.reciate it. >> it's a pleasure. >>> coming up, jones makes a grand return and gloats about the victory in the election. his speech was nothing short of offensive. we'll play it for you. you'll hear the less than civil rhetoric being spewed by the former green jobs czar. the situation in syria has hit critical mass that president assad is ready to launch chemical weapons on his own people. president obama issued a warning to assad. to assad. will he stand by his own try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. >> we cannot have a situation where chemical or biological weapons are falling into the hands of the wrong people. we have been very clear to the outside regime, but also to other players on the ground that a

throughout the evening, senior writer for the weekly standard, steven hayes, and nina and charles krauthammer. these are tough to listen to. charles, we have listened to this a few days and this is the challenge of the president as he is ready for the rare service. any thoughts? >>reporter: you have a human tragedy and the family tragedies, community tragedy and then a national tragedy because of the way the news is spread. the president's role is to try to crystallize that. i am glad to hear from ed henry this is not a time to speak about politics. there is something obscene about jumping in at a time of great national grief and in some ways disorientation with a program of political action before the dead are even interred. some decency requires people should at least step back, wait for the emotions to pass, not that you can't do analysis and try to think through what is behind what might have contributed, but, before people enact agendas they should allow the mourning to take place. >> this is, really, a consoler-in-chief role for president obama. that community...we have just scratched t

syndicated columnnist charles krauthammer.your lightning round topic but we are moving it up so you start us off. are we going to get a deal before the 2nd of january or go tumbling off the cliff? >> it looks more and more likely that we will go off the cliff. president obama will make an evident at a band aid. disappointing deal. won't get debt reduction, or affect the entitlement liability. it's very disappointing the situation we're in. no one tried harder than boehner to get a deal but it's beyond his criminal at thi cont. president obama plan "a" was nev enough. they don't like raising taxes and to get debt ceiling increase put off for a year or two they are looking for deep spending cuts. they don't want to waive the sequester or pause sequester. they want in addition to the sequester another $1 trillion in cuts. so the two sides are so far apart. if president obama wanted toresd by offering much cheaper cuts. moving the marginal rate threshold up to $500,000 or $600,000. unchaining the cpi protection as he is trying to

the question is, did the president know and as charles krauthammer outlined, you know, that he was going to crush the republican opposition, listen. i'm going to toot my own horn a little bit. i wrote about this two days after the election. what the president has done is take a battlefield victory and pursued the enemy in the woods and routed them. the advisers know that john boehner could not, cannot, would not pass a bill in the house of representatives to raise tax rates. john boehner came out the day after the election and tried to preempt that. he knew it was coming and trying to raise revenues closing loopholes. we won't raise tax rates, however. the president has compromised. he's gone from 250 to 400. he's changed some other things. he put the social security benefit reductions on the table. the so-called chain cpi and they knew all along -- i don't know if this was third intention or overt thinking but they're very smart people and no wriggle room, no flexibility for john boehner and pressing him, the party was going to explode ear and parentally that's what's happening in the h

charles krauthammer, thanks so much for being with us.reciate it. >> it's a pleasure. >>> coming up, jones makes a grand return and gloats about the victory in the election. his speech was nothing short of offensive. we'll play it for you. you'll hear the less than civil rhetoric being spewed by the former green jobs czar. the situation in syria has hit critical mass that president assad is ready to launch chemical weapons on his own people. president obama issued a warning to assad. to assad. will he stand by his own the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more cash. but i'm upping my game. do you want a candy cane? yes! do you want the puppy? yes! do you want a tricycle? yes! do you want 50 percent more cash? no! ♪ festive. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on every purchase plus a 50% annual bonus on the cash you earn. it's the card for people who like more cash. what's in your wallet? [ male announcer

senior writer for the weekly standard, steven hayes, kirsten powers, nina easton and charles krauthammerout what the president wants to do tonight. >> i think his main message is to communicate to the people across the country that we're altogether in this. that we're with the people in newtown, that we're thinking about you, we're praying alongside you. he really does have to be the consoler in chief. while it does seem odd to say it this early because the pain is so raw and so fresh, it's inevitable that this service will probably be the first step in what will be a long and incredibly difficult recovery process and the president's job in some ways is to begin that process with words of healing along with leading clergymen, clergy folks with him tonight. >> bret: charles, we've heard from ed henry that this will not be a policy speech, that this will be a consoling speech, this will be a uniting speech. we heard a lot on the sunday shows, about policy projections going forward, but not tonight. >> not tonight, but i do think that this event is likely to be a watershed, i mean, it's har

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clinton to the mix, and it gets even more political, and i will call your attention to charles krauthammerto say where were you, what were your orders, but apparently she is suffering from acute benghazi allergy which causes light heatedness when she hears the word benghazi. >> ever-sensitive charles krauthammer. i think the help of a clinton has depoliticized. there are many people that would do anything to avoid taking her on, so they're going after susan rice, which we saw. what's frustrating to me is i still don't actually know what happened. i think that we're all sort of trying to sort out where did this attack come from? there's clearly terrorist action. who was it? how do we know? where is the line between the department of defense and the secretary of state? how should we be protecting our diplomats? those kinds of questions don't come up at all. some of it is because of the urge ens around particularly on the republican side trying to find anything. they're looking for a foot hold, and this does in this sort of abstract nature of it all provide one. we don't really have any answe

think so far, the media with exception of a few reporters haven't caught on, but we see charles krauthammerandrea tantaros, watch out. you're being snookered. >> and pushing republicans towards tax increases and john boehner said we're up for revenue-- >> as several have pointed out the democrats won the election and that means that there are consequences and financial consequences that flow from that, and if the president wants 1 trillion 600 billion dollars worth of new revenue which the wall street journal was one of those to point out in the editorial he's entitled to get it at least what the democrats think and therefore, the republicans are on the defense. >> worth pointing out though that the republicans still won those, the majority in the house so they won an election, too, and the president, what strikes me as odd, the president campaigned on the tax increase proposal for the highest, you know, the highest couple of percentage of american taxpayers, that would raise, as i understand it, about 850 billion dollars, but he comes out with this proposal that's twice that so he's double

you flip the script, yeah -- >> stephanie: you quote krauthammer.y are -- they admit she did not generate this -- intelligence about baghdad which turned out to be wrong. the 100% concede she was merely repeating the talking points on television. on one sunday. so condy rice, charles krauthammer gave her a pass to be secretary of state because she didn't generate the bad intel. she just was a consumer of it. susan rice did not generate the intelligence about benghazi. she's a consumer of it and therefore that -- this qualifies her to be secretary of state on fox news. i mean i don't know how much more black and white the hypocrisy -- >> stephanie: as you and others have pointed out, the iraq war obviously cost us god knows how much blood and treasury in the final analysis. the benghazi attack, as horrible as it was compared to the iraq war, not even close right? >> right. so condy rice helped initiate a war plus $3 trillion, 4,000 american lives untold number of iraqi dead and susan rice was reacting to a terrorist attack that killed four americans

. >> i paid attention to what charles krauthammer said on fox, i think i heard you say the other night it that the cliff is the only leverage the republicans have. >> not really the only leverage. both sides are invulnerable. but i disagree with my colleagues that it is pox on both houses. right after election day, the speaker of the house offers a peace pipe, saying i'm willing to raise revenues. it is a break in what republicans have held to for several decades. the response the administration gave on thursday, it said timothy geithner to offer the following -- a hike in taxes of $160 billion that the congress gives up any influence over the debt ceiling and, rather than proposing any cuts in spending whatsoever, the administration wants to spend an extra $50 billion on stimulus. now, that is an insulting offer, and republicans will and should walk away from an offer after they had offered to compromise on taxes. obama has said that he wants a balanced approach. where are the cuts? >> grover norquist, president of americans for tax reform, author of the no-tax-hike pledge, but some p

stoddard and syndicated columnist, charles krauthammer.u make of syria and russia getting cold feet. >> there is not mutual left for writing on the wall. they have gaintory and most importantly the military facilities they capture weapo weaponry. for assad he is looking at the high level defection today. this is extremely high level. head of the military police. what he said is interesting. there are others high in the government to affect it but they can't. that could apply to assad himself. it is possible he will give asylum, probably in iran. maybe russia will change its mind. if he escapes. if he tries to escape it's possible his own people will kill him on the way to the airport. if he stays when the regime collapses, it probably will within the next few weeks or months. the others will kill him. opposition. he will get as much of a trial as gaddafi did. the last option is one i mentioned last night. he could try to re-establish himself in tartus, in canton protected by points on the east. he might be able to exist in a while in iran,

syndicated columnist charles krauthammer.nt head interesting statements saying that the situation we're in after the connecticut shooting the environment that the country is in that americans should compromise. >> this is logical non-sequitur. like benghazi report proves we should send a man to mars. there is no connection between the two things. the assumption that obama is working from is only he is looking to compromise for the greater good. the only way they can prove they are going to compromise the greater good is take up the white house position. this is outrageous to tie it to the massacre. all the conversation about the massacre has been repugnant to me in the last week. but i don't know, i don't think this will work for obam obama. when he says the republicans are saying this because they have a problem with me personally. that is narcissistic and dog whist to imply malintent or bad motives on the republicans. >> bret: often as we do at this table, if bur george w. buh had said of a school shooting in his term after

rush limbaugh and charles krauthammer want republicans to walk away and let obama own the mess. >> thething to do is back out of this and let obama and democrats have it and do what you want to do. that will happen anyway. i don't know about you, i don't want my fingerprints on this. >> this is almost unheard of. what do they expect? they think the republicans will cave on everything. i think republicans should walk away. >> eric: so on tuesday, i remember -- >> andrea: i floated the idea and i said why can't republicans vote present? let obama have his bill or not show up. a lot of members wouldn't show. they would book dentist appointment or pull a hamstring and let him get his way and own the fiscal cliff debacle. >> eric: it's not a bad call. this could be terrible for the economy and hurt jobs and businesses. but honestly, if you are ready, america, if you are ready, hold your nose, take a deep breath and take the medicine. it will fix the problem and the deficit problem as long as everything in the fiscal cliff happens. as long as sequestration happens it will hurt defense. tax r

charles krauthammer says the benghazi report is now complete, that means it is fnow time to hear from secretary of state hillary clinton. >> five days after the attack she was not out there to address the american people. she sent out somebody whom the president himself said had no idea about benghazi. now she is supposed to speak to the congress about this she has an illness now. i am not going to say she doesn't have one. i would be hap tee to give her a neurologic exam. on the absence of that i will take her word. she did say i take full responsibility for the attack in benghazi. she said that during the campaign which is completely utterly meaningless. what does that mean? the secretary resigned over it even though it was fog as a matter of principle. she won't even speak about it which ought to be the minimal requirement. i think that's incumbent upon her, too. >> the state department dismisses the motion that hillary clinton faked her illness. >> a difficult day ahead for the newtown community as they say good-bye to four more victims. funerals will be held for 7-year-old daniel

and sindcated columnist charles krauthammer. 14 days from tonight.e way. >> start of the day i was feeling optimistic in a way i have not. it surprised me but it seems that things are moving quickly. things are moving on both sides. the white house saying this is not the final offer. but by the end of the today it's clear that the republicans-meeting with the leadership this morning after getting back in town, really want what they are calling verifiable spending cuts. they want more on the spending side. they know what boehner offers in revenue, a lot. shocking amount. to anyone either side. if you thought about this a couple of months ago. but they want real entitlement reform. they want not provider cuts, which are never followed through by congress. they want verifiable cuts. what you hear from republicans is we heard this before. we promise spending cuts that don't come through. they don't want an amount to replace the sequester. they want amount on top of the sequester and new cuts to replace sequester. not what the white house is offering. >>

sindcated columnist charles krauthammer. a.b., the res tent numbers-cruncher.t do you make of the back and forth today? >> today was about the drama on both sides and blame game and showing they were going to come and call e want to get down to business before december 31, which is monday. we're not, there are no plans. no paperwork. there are conflicting reports about the meeting. it's all kind of depressing. when you poke arp you find out that the house is returning on sunday. but beyond that, nobody knows anything. >> doug: steve? >> yeah. today, nothing happened other than people using warn-out talking points and a lot of misinformation. harry reid is still blaming grover norquist. send him a memo that norquist took himself out of the discussion a week ago when he backed the house republican plan "b." it's like the old stale talking points. for me, the big picture if you take a step back from this, the big picture story here is one of misplaced outrage. media folks with the commentators on all sides complaining there is a lack of compromise. we need comedy

. >> i want to play a sound by the from charles krauthammer and get your take on this.n to charles. >> it is clear from the beginning he had no intention to solve the fiscal issues. he's been using this and i must say with great skill and ruthless skill and success to fracture and basically shatter the republican opposition. the only redoubt of the opposition is the house . his objective from the very grinning was to break the will of the republican house and to create an internal civil war and he's done that. >> talking about president obama trying to create an internal civil war. you think it is a grand strategy. >> i don't think president obama will do anything. he's they are doing that to themselves. to americans it is bigger than that. we saw the debt limit fight last summer and fiscal cliff is the first and last chapters in a book that spells the end of the modern republican party. i would say listen, the debt limit last summer was the first time the teparty control house to push us in economic ruin and they were. they lost in november . yet there are members was

charles krauthammer weighing in on the negotiations. the approach on the president and democrats didn't about the economy at all but rather about politics. >> i am not serious at all about entitlements. the president himself said that's where the money is. on social security he denied there is any effect on the deficit at all. durbin said social security hasn't added a dime to the deficit. in 2012 it added $160 billion of debt. that is more than a dime. there are 2.5 trillion in the trust fund in social security that will take care of it for 20 more years, 25 more years. that means pieces of paper in the trust fund where the treasury says we will pay you. it doesn't have the money. it spent surpluss in the past. that's a promise from the treasury which is pank ru bankrupt. that is infection but they know it. the republicans are bad guys these are good guys. surprising to me the president wokd get the revenues he wants from de deductions and exclusions. it is on rates not for economic reasons but political. he wants to break the backs of

nina easton and charles krauthammer. welcome back. what do you think? we learned about the white house is it's very good at raw political maneuvering. this dates back to obamacare. where it changed the rules in the senate to squeeze that through. this white house knows taxing the rich is popular position about they know making difficult decisions like changing medicare to raise the age for example to lower the cost of medicare needs to be done is a very unpopular decision. they know that if a decision, if they don't come to a grand bargain, republicans are going to be blamed. so they have every interest in dragging this out and beating republicans over the head, over and over, while republicans by the way, have made some concessions. and are being beaten up by their own conservatives to the right. >> bret: are you seeing anything change? >> conservatives in leadership, republicans in leadership take heat from the base for southern. the president makes the case he has campaigned on raising taxes. and he won. keep in mind the republican leadership campaig

during the interviews, endearing, and put the burden on him and the third is rebellion and charles krauthammer steve forbes and the media like that story the least. >> i think there's a 6th story, jim. which is the media that quote progressive media of msnbc, tipping down to the white house to have an earnest chat to chat with the president about how important not going over the fiscal cliff is, and how important it is that they persuade their viewers to lean on those people who oppose them, so that they can actually avoid the cliff. that's amazing. >> you know, the media did not include the people who are not included, there was tom hartman, allen colmes and a lot of people who the white house left out of that meeting and in terms of who they put up and put out. media put out the story without doing their homework. >> there was a column by george will, bewitched by obama, even jonathan swift who said that promises and pie crusts are made to be broken and marvelled at the limited shelf life of a barack obama's promise of balanced debt reduction plan. is there any media pressure on the white ho

stoddard and syndicated, charles krauthammer.ke of syria and russia getting cold feet. >> there is not mutual left for writing on the wall. they have gaintory and most importantly the military facilities they capture weapo weaponry. for assad he is looking at the high level defection today. this is extremely high level. head of the military police. what he said is interesting. there are others high in the government to affect it but they can't. that could apply to assad himself. it is possible he will give asylum, probably in iran. maybe russia will change its mind. if he escapes. if he tries to escape it's possible his own people will kill him on the way to the airport. if he stays when the regime collapses, it probably will within the next few weeks or months. the others will kill him. opposition. he will get as much of a trial as gaddafi did. the last option is one i mentioned last night. he could try to re-establish himself in tartus, in canton protected by points on the east. he might be able to exist in a while in iran, sem

syndicated columnist charles krauthammer.e president's statement today that happened mid-day. he framed it as ed henry said as campaign style event. middle class families behind him. didn't have a lot of details and has had the same feel as he has had many times on the stump. >> i found it astonishing. he comes out with incredible arrogance. spikes the football on the republicans and rubs in they were resisting a raise in rate and he made them do it. of course, as always, he places himself hobbing benignly at olympian level above the fray. where the children are playing in the sand box and he is asking that everybody be reasonable. as if he just arrived in washington on a tourist visa. he goes in detail. he says i'm giving the republicans zero on spending. i mean zero. not even discretionnary spending. this is after he killed a proposal from the minority leader senate. for the tiniest changes in cost of living, a technical change. that is rejected. tax hikes all in rates, no cuts in spending and worse than that, after all of

. >> charles krauthammer calling him a master negotiator.aying if it were left up to him he could solve the syrian civil war in a weekend. >> dave: he can get it done but there is still john boehner and the house republicans. i'm not modestly optimistic. anything through the house at this point. >> juliet: like lindsey gram said two days ago when you call a meeting publicly in washington it usually turns out to be the dog and pony show or theater basically. honestly calling at this late hour. they met for an hour. what could really go down in that type of meeting? things can go down but really, it's just at the edge. they waited so long. they all went on their vacations. >> clayton: here are some things on the table to answer those questions perhaps. generalities. we don't know what's been tabled. democrats still strong about this. they say they were, yeah, here is -- take a look at this. keeping tax cuts for those making $250,000 a year or less. we know that's there. that may shift because we are hearing from republicans they may be willing

syndicated columnist, charles krauthammer. charles?en the president says we need conceptual break through. meaning the republicans have to accept a hike in rates. what he means is a political surrender. because there is no economic reason why you cannot raise the money he wants raised. by doing it through eliminating deductions, inclusions and credit. number one as we saw he, himself, said so. a year-and-a-half ago. secondly, the same debt reduction commission he appointed and then ignored. spoke about raising much more through eliminating deductions and loopholes. and credits. broadening the base. at the same time, lowering the rates. that is the economic ideal. everybody understands it's what happened in '86 in the tax reform. it's what was recommended in the debt reduction commission. in their three scenarios in one of them, they eliminate so many deductions that they would lower upper rates to 23% and still come out revenue neutral. so, of course, it can be done. break through the president is talking about is to break the republic