, including communication system i unfortunately had a nickname and my time at dhs of catastrophic krebs and i do tend to jump to the worst. it leads to rule it out first. so you do want to understand what the potential worst-case outcome here is in work back from there. but it, of course immediately jumps to mind. because the sorts of things that china and russia and others are trying to do in their broader infrastructure disruption campaign and activities. but it is good to know that there are competent response teams at at&t and elsewhere working hard on this crisis. and i i'm fairly confident they'll get it resolved quickly and let us know what happened. >> well, let me ask you this cattle that's profit krebs. we as consumers, what is it that we can do to prepare for this? because brian fung was saying one of the things that people are being told as though you use a land line to call 911 and i know there are a lot of people out there saying once a landline we got rid of our landline a long time ago. how do people need to prepare for a moment when the cell phone network does go down f

krebs i don't -- >> i don't have anything to add beyond what i have shared with you but certainly, again as we have more information, will be sure to pass it on. >> since his hospitalization in an effort to be more transparent, can you give us a sense of what stages prostate cancer was? how early it was detected? you are expecting future hospitalizations because of the ongoing fight? >> as you have heard us say before, his cancer was detected very early. as his doctors have previously highlighted, he is expected to make a full recovery from his cancer diagnosis. there is no further treatment associated with his cancer expected other than physical therapy he has been undergoing to deal with lingering pains which he highlighted during his press briefing. as you highlight, we will continue to keep you updated with as much information as possible regarding the secretary and his health status and be as transparent as we can. >> has he spoke to the president and his most recent hospitalization? has he expressed any reservations about his own ability to serve? when he is released, is he expecte

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joining us now, the former director of cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency chris krebs.titutions? what do we know? >> they for sure hit government institutions, including in the military in the defense industrial base. we have seen prior activity against banks for sure, but as they point out, this is a lot of that court infrastructure in the intent is to take this infrastructure down in a time of escalated tensions with china, and undermine services provided to you and me, just average citizens here in the u.s., and cause societal panic and chaos so that we ultimately start to question our leadership, and this is very much a technical attack as it is a psychological attack. >> hey chris, this has been going on for five years according to the reports. what do you figure, or what do you know was done in response defensively over the past five years. what are our capabilities in putting them off or even engaging in the same sort of subterfuge within china? >> well to actually step back, this is a activity, whether it's russia, iran, or china, has been going back to the bush

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for more on the growing threat of chinese cyberattacks, chris krebs, sentinel one chief public policy inaugural director of the u.s. department of homeland security, cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency. great to have you here with us so, you know, this threat that director wray was talking about, it was intercepted and detected, but there is still a high level of alarm about just the ongoing potential for disruption here. is it new, has it escalated, should we just assume that there is a constant attempt at these incursions how do we think about it >> well, with china, what i have seen out of the national security community and out of the intelligence community has been a marked shift in their level of concern and their public outreach engagement for about the last year or so. and it really kind of kicked off last may when there was a discovery or announcement of some activity in guam and indo-pacific region where they detected chinese activity targeting military assets. and the thought is as tensions escalate between china and taiwan, noting that the united states would

joining us now, the former director of cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency, chris krebs.lic policy officer at the cybersecurity company sentinel one. chris, this sounds absolutely frightening. are we talking about banking institutions or government institutions? what do we know? >> well, they for sure hit government institutions including in the military and the defense industrial base. we've seen prior activity against banks for sure, but as they point out, this is a lot of that core lifeline infrastructure and the intent is to take this infrastructure down at a time of escalated tensions with china, and ruin service to you and me and cause societal panic and chaos so we ultimately start to question our leadership and this is very much a technical attack as much as it is a psychological attack. >> hey, chris. this has been going on for five years according to the reports. what do you figure or do you know what we've done in response defensively over the past five years? what are our capabilities in putting them off or perhaps even engaging in the same sort of subterfuge

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