we have an exclusive atten kren, joining us this morning to shed some light on what kaci hickox is thinking our closest friends, nier patell and brandon krause. thank you for joining us. kaci hickox knows that you're doing this, wants you to do this, yes? >> yep, that's correct. >> before we get into what she's become as a symbol, let's just deal with who she is. let me start with you, nier. what is she about? >> she's compassionate. she's just an amazing, compassionate person that you know, truly believes that what she's doing is for the better of, you know, everyone. she's truly selfless. her work all abroad and locally, you know, domestically, she proves that she has a goal in life that she wants to deliver, you know, health care and humanitarian aid to wherever it's needed. >> right. people are, you can clearly distinguish the work she did in africa from the situation right now though, brandon. nier used the word "selfless" but many see this as selfish, she could just suck it up and do the 21 days. what is she motivated by to create such a situation? >> that's a good question. kaci is s