. >> our guest is kris brown, president of brady, we are talking about in particular about the legislation being developed to respond to the gun violence in america, (202)748-8000 the number to call for democrats, republican 20274880001 and independents and others (202)748-8002. also if you're a gun owner, the line (202)748-8003, after the el paso shooting in early august, the president pointed the finger among other things saying mental illness, hatred pulled the trigger, not the gun, when you hear talk about mental illness, what's your take on that? >> well, look, i think that the facts sort of bear out what the solution is, the united states doesn't experience any more mental illness than any other industrialized country in the world. we experience a lot more gun violence because we have among the most lack rules with respect with who can own a gun and how that gun is used. we really need to look at that if we want to be serious about reducing gun violence. i agree, we absolutely need to invest more and better and appropriate mental health treatment but if you're experiencing a mental i