kris kobach of kansas so if you for who he is just think k.k.k. but it's chris kobach of kansas is yes he's still running this show he's still while a lot of states have said oh they won't turn over their voter rolls most of them like mississippi louisiana and virginia are lying about it they have turned over their voter rolls to him he's creating a super list for already he has ninety eight million names in his possession he's created a hit list of seven point two million names which he considers three million suspects or just seven million innocent americans except that they are guilty of one thing overwhelmingly the names are black hispanic and asian american and that's what it's all about because this in a city of hama nace. yeah it's what they've done is they've match common names people and i kid you not people like james brown jr and james brown sr as opposed to the same guy who voted twice it's a lie it's a con and worse it is a massive racial purge of the voter rolls in virginia mississippi georgia ohio michigan and unfortunately too many

kris kobach has had a long agenda for undermining democratic participation in voting rights. he created a program that has been so rife with errors when it is try to find voters that are dead that are on the rolls, at state like florida and oregon have pulled out. that he is trying to nationalize this. there's a concern about voter purging. he has been held back by several courts several times and been sanctioned for behavior in litigation. there is a real concern that out of this effort which was marginalized has become central. and it is going to result in hundreds of thousands of voters being removed from voter rolls. that is of real concern. host: the information they are asking for was previously not available? guest: in our country, it's a very decentralized voting system. in the age of hacking and concerns about russian interference and the like, there is probably a good reason why we want to keep it not centralized in a white house database right now. but there has been -- of course you have to maintain voter rolls to make sure they are up dated. but there is a concer

i think there is no question cochairs isof the kris kobach.and he is a cochair and he has been found by numerous federal courts that he is unlawful. unlawful purging of voters in his own state. there are three other individuals who similarly have long track records trying to restrict the franchise. the former ohio secretary of throughout ballots because they were not printed on the right card stock. whenoncern here is that the president, after the election, had no proof to substantiate that than he did win the election, that it kind of created the groundwork. kris kobach. he wanted to amend the 1993 voter act for quite some time. he met with the president-elect .n december with a plan in mind and there is no question that this commission is going to try to find evidence and inflate it wildly of claims of voter fraud and try to use that as a pre-way to amend the voter suppression act. and i think it is incumbent on all of us who care about voting rights to make sure that state and local election officials understand that they have a lot of powe

instance, there is a lot of evidence based on ongoing litigation from three federal lawsuit where kris kobach has been sued for his agenda on voter purging. there is concrete evidence that all of them have records that demonstrate past actions. they rejected thousands of ballots in ohio. that created a controversy locally. there are numerous and us is an all been court determinations about this that are ample evidence about the kind of agenda that exist. part of the formation of this commission are merged out of president trump's tweets right after the election. he claimed that 5 million people voted illegally in an election that he won. there was zero evidence of that claim. this commission was created in its aftermath. with peoplepulated who are engaged in voter purging. i think that is evidence enough. host: this is samuel from florida. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. thank you for c-span. good morning. i wanted to ask you, how do you know if someone is being ideological and political? betweenu distinguish somebody who is playing politics and someone who is being an ide

. >> and does that also mean that secretary of state kris kobach, the vice-chairman of the president's commission on electoral integrity, would stay in his position and not be considered for homeland security? sarah: i'm not aware of any movements for him. but as always, when we have a personnel announcement, i'd be happy to share it with you. jon decker. since we're in the johns -- >> thank you, sarah. i was hoping just to follow up on north korea. i was hoping you could clarify the administration's message that it has for north korea. the other day, the president said, when asked about north korea, "we will take care of them. we will take care of everything." and a little bit ago, the secretary of state, secretary of state tillerson, said that the u.s. is trying to convince north korea that the u.s. is not your enemy. so which one is it? is the president focused on north korea as an adversary, or is secretary tillerson correct that the u.s. is trying to send this message that the u.s. is not north korea's enemy? sarah: look, like i just said a few minutes ago, the big priorities here

aren't around anymore because that is you know trump won wisconsin by twenty two thousand votes and kris kobach superstate cross-check knocked two hundred thousand people off the voting rolls just before the election in wisconsin i think you know. both of you are asserting that there's no relationship between those two numbers. well i would argue that if you first almost states of motor voter you can register any time so if you are actually knocked off you can quickly get back on and very easily so a lot of states there's a ninety day waiting period or you can't you got to do it within a certain period of time that's increasingly not the case but but historically they used to have sometimes even six month waiting period but now we're down to a very short waiting period sometimes just a matter of a week or so so it's not a big deal just i don't know what of all the political force you were able to vote that are illegal immigrants so i want that i don't want to see if i were not voting who are on the rolls why do you care well you're zero i guess in georgia because you're asserting that they actu

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also remember, donald trump has, as the head of his commission looking at supposed voter fraud -- kris kobach, the chief vote suppressor from kansas, secretary of state of kansas. so, no, i think there are many people within doj and the civil rights division who are absolutely good people. but the leadership is rotten. the stink is coming from the top. >> mark potok. good to say you, lower often only speaking under these unfortunate, horrible circumstances. but i thank you so much for your expertise. >> a pleasure. thanks for having me. >>> north korea crisis. in a new interview, our own peter alexander presses vice president pence on whether the u.s. is going to work with pyongyang. we'll have his answer, coming up. >>> and the president does finally come out condemning white supremacists after being slammed by members of his own party. but is it too little, too late? or, you can take advantage of our best offer ever on an xt5. don't wait. our 2017 models will be moving fast. you can drive a car... or you can drive a cadillac. come in now before the end of our made to move 2017 clearance eve

. >> and does that also mean that secretary of state kris kobach, the vice chairman of the president'sssion on electoral integrity would stay in his position and not be considered for homeland security. >> i'm not aware of any movements for him, but as always, when we have a personnel announcement, i'll be happy to share it with you. >> i was hoping just to follow up on north korea. hoping you could clarify the administration's message that it has for north korea. the other day, the president said, when asked about north korea, we will take care of them. we will take care of everything. and a little bit ago, the secretary of state, secretary of state tillerson said that the u.s. is trying to convince north korea that the u.s. is not your enemy. so, which one is it? is the president focused on north korea as an adversary, or is secretary tillerson correct that the u.s. is trying to send this message that the u.s. has not north korea's enemy. >> look, like i just said a few minutes ago, the big priorities here, which we've laid out, i think, this is the third or fourth time i've done it

is commission headed by vice president pence and co-chaired, friend of mine secretary of state kris kobachnformation. 15 refused to turn over the information. some including new york state, we'll give you information publicly available. not everything you want, all the stuff if you walked into the voter bureaus get the voter records. they will get information available to any of us. that would be a good starts. stuart: if we could match up who voted and were they eligible to vote. you match up two things, you got a measure of voter fraud whether it exists or not. >> governor rick scott tried to do. every state is required under motor voter vote to take off the rolls dead people. he tried to do that the department of justice under obama stopped him. he wanted to remove 50,000 dead people from the voter rolls. department of justice sued in federal court to stop him from doing this. i think this president will have a different approach. if governor scott wants to clean dead people off the voter rolls i think he will let him do it. stuart: we have to settle this one way or another. >> if there