then, of course, the cable universe is a whole other thing and you have occasionally darkened kris matthew's doors and the doors of other cable hosts. i know it's probably distasteful to do that, but the cable channels that you self-exile, so if you're a conservative you have fox on all the time and essentially confirmation bias reinforcing your point of view. if you're at cnbc you are listening to rachel mad dough or kris meadows. it could harden the difference. >> it absolutely hardens the difference. that's certainly the case. it's now -- it's now entirely possible and many people do live within a cocoon of information that reinforces your view of the world rather than challenges. >> never have to hear a conflicting opinion of world view if you don't want to. >> right. and you're sometimes exposed to things that reinforce that that you didn't know about because people on either side who are working those be that -- >> and occasionally as much as that will surprise you, something that is not true. occasionally -- >> once in awhile that does happen. >> the washington post i consider still t

joining us today from national mall is the host of msnbc's "hardball" kris matthews, eugene robinson, joining me from chicago is former senior adviser to president obama director at the university of chicago institute of politics and an msnbc political analyst david axelrod and in nashville executive editor at random house. chris ma the hurricanes my colleague and friend someone i look to, someone who knows this city well. we're talking about the march on washington and yet in today's world washington has become synonymous with a place of dysfunction, of anger, of partisanship, of rancor. i guess to what degree can we rekindle that possibility. how can this society recode what washington means sway place of failure. >> well i don't want to suggest it's a symetrick problem. there was a decision 4 1/2 years ago to prevents this presidency of president obama from taking effect. they want to remoist from the history books as much as they could even though he had been elected legitimately with a larger majority than ronald reagan had back in 1980. they wanted to somehow deny him his presid

joining us today from national mall is the host of msnbc's "hardball" kris matthews, eugene robinson,e university of chicago institute of politics and an msnbc political analyst david axelrod and in nashville executive editor at random house. chris ma the hurricanes my colleague and friend someone i look to, someone who knows this city well. we're talking about the march on washington and yet in today's world washington has become synonymous with a place of dysfunction, of anger, of partisanship, of rancor. i guess to what degree can we rekindle that possibility. how can this society recode what washington means sway place of

i'm kris matthews in washington. he has done it to damascus, now he is doing it here.ne here at home. any republican who tries to bring this country into the default, fails to pay interest on the national debt is the enemy. there will be no deals, the president says, no talks, no schmoozes, no bedtime stories, no nothing. you are cut off. america will pay its debts. it will not

i'm kris matthews in washington. he has done it to damascus, now he is doing it here.at home. any republican who tries to bring this country into the default, fails to pay interest on the national debt is the enemy. there will be no deals, the president says, no talks, no schmoozes, no bedtime stories, no nothing. you are cut off. america will pay its debts. it will not default. it will nost

i'm kris matthews in washington. he has done it to damascus, now he is doing it here. president obama today drew a red line here at home. any republican who tries to bring this country into the default, fails to pay interest on the national debt is the enemy. there will be no deals, the president says, no talks, no schmoozes, no bedtime stories, no nothing. you are cut off. america will pay its debts. it will not default. it will not destroy its credit in the world. and you can threaten. you can scream and yell, but the united states government will not fail in the bankruptcy because of this economic terrorism you on the right purport to be a political philosophy. well, the secretary of the treasury said it less dramatically this morning, but said it just as clearly. any attempt by the right wing to threaten this country with national default will be met with the strongest response, no deals. bashar al assad in damascus, but against those in this country who would jeopardize the country's financial strength. joining me right now are two political pros, democrat steve m